Just FYI, many Lebanese are Christian. There are Lebanese Jews, as well.

The Marathon owner did what he had to do. If the gun was legal he should have no problem claiming self-defence. Bazzi should have thought of that before he went over to start trouble. What about the friend with the bat ? I hope he was arrested also.

How is it obvious that no one should have fired a gun? That vague description leaves enough latitude for it to have possibly been a reasonable reaction.

I'm not privy to all the ins and outs but last I check you don't have to point a gun DIRECTLY AT A PERSON. I think firing it at the ceiling would be enough...or even just cocking it.

what if they're swinging the bat at your head?

or your brother's head?

as you said, you're not privy to all the details, neither am i ... so i'm choosing to withhold my judgment until all the facts are in, i'd recommend doing the same to you

Attacking someone with a baseball bat could be classified as self-defense, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder, depending on circumstances. It would be wise to let more facts come to light before judging who was right or wrong here.

hmm if someone came to my door swinging a baseball bat and if I felt my life was in danger (and if I owned a gun,at I will settle with a combat grade sword) I would A call the cops,if there wasn't time I would B, shoot them.
Even though some people think guns are evil and wrong and defending yourself with or without guns is even eviler and wrong I don't care. When it comes to keeping yourself safe,if a person attacks you without provocation they forfeit there right to be safe from bodily harm.
Seems the only common sense thing my state has done in years is pass a Law that enables people to use what ever force they(the person being attacked) deem is needed to defend themselves and those around them.

You might be right, but if someone came to my business, started a fight, and then beat someone with a bat, I might not be so clear headed to think of such things at the time.

While I don't know the details of the situation, and while I think a gun probably didn't need to have been used... I couldn't see myself wanting to punish the shooter from the information given.

However, the missing details of this situation could vastly change my opinion.

in this age of violence, I'm almost surprised such things don't happen more often... but while it's something stupid to fight about , it would've been reasonable to talk about it. I dunno what the laws are in the States but if I recall correctly over here we have laws that don't allow gas stations to lower their price under a certain "market price"... or at least it's something like that. Been such a long time since I heard about it.

As for the dead guy... well, *maybe* he shouldn't be dead today but since he was the one who started it all, I hope no one is surprised that he is.

shooting your gun in any way other then to defeat the person assulting you is dangerous and reckless. You aim your weapon at your target and you fire. You DO NOT fire at anything you do not mean to kill.

those are VERY BASIC gun safety things, If you draw your weapon in self defence the ONLY thing you should be shooting or even pointing at is the person(s) you are defending yourself from.


something sketching about "preaching peace", when they described what he was preaching it didnt sound like peace, he told them to have patience, basically to wait until later.

I was in Law Enforcement for 5 years, if you pull your firearm, you do it for one reason. Our training wasn't to shoot the ceiling or to give warning shots. As an individual- thank God you have the Right to protect yourself. If not- you'd be hit in the head with a bat !

That is also what i have learned, from shooting with police and Secret Service. Only shooting to kill makes you think twice about whether or not to draw, and whether or not to shoot. When you take on the practice of firing warning shots, it encourages you to pull out your gun and shoot when the situation doesn't warrant it.

And always shoot to kill. Just hope it never comes to that.

I totaly agree. If I was in that exact situation (vauge as it may be), I would shoot the guy aswell. If someone breaks into my building with a group of his employees, starts a fight, then busts out a baseball bat and start beating people? When I read that a baseball bat appeared, I thought that it was the deadly weapon.

The rule isn't dont bring a gun to a knife fight, its don't bust out a weapon on the guy with a gun unless you want to get shot.

Do gas stations in the States actually pick their own prices? In Canada, head office tells you what to set the has price at. When I worked at an Esso station, we would get e-mails through our point-of-sale terminal telling us what to change the prices to, and at what time to do it.

Ah, Detroit. Brings back all kinds of warm and fuzzy feelings like when my friends brother got shot in the head for hitting on a girl. Sweet, sweet Detroit.