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  • THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 27 2007 10:00 PM

The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Breastmilk Lube



Some of you might remember this post, about the med student who was suing to get the Medical Examiners Board to allow her time to pump breast milk during her exams.

Well, guess what. The first judge ruled against her, it's now been overturned, and the MEB is planning to appeal. At this rate, the baby will of course be in med school herself by the time it's all over, but with luck the latest judge's ruling will stand.

As he put it,

Judge Gary Katzmann said yesterday that she needed the extra time so she could be on “equal footing” with men and nonlactating women taking the test.


That's it exactly. The judge goes on to explain, for those who don't get how intuitively obvious that statement is, that

refusing to allow additional time meant that Ms. Currier must choose to either “use her break time to incompletely express breast milk and ignore her bodily functions, or abdicate her decision to express breast milk, resulting in significant pain.”

“Under either avenue,” he wrote, Ms. Currier “is placed at significant disadvantage in comparison to her peers.”


In other words, it's not about the baby, it's not about being a mommy, it's not about whining, it's not about wanting special privileges.

It's about a bodily function. Which, by the grace of god, Cthulhu, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or the impersonal forces of evolution and sexual reproduction, is one that women have and men don't, and that may women never experience.

But those that do are still human beings, with the same right to equal treatment as everyone else. Failing to accommodate them is akin to failing to accommodate people's needs to pee, or eat, or fulfull ay other necessary bodily function.

The only difference is that this bodily function belongs to women. If it didn't, every public building and office in the developed world would have nursing rooms.

Don't even get Bitch_PhD started about the lack of changing tables in a lot of public buildings and in men's rooms. Though this has started getting better since significant numbers of men started taking care of babies, too. Go figure.



 

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Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

SEP 27, 2007 10:28 PM

20 minutes? They are going through all this hassle over 20 minutes for her to pump? They need to get their priorities straight...

Lout_Rampage

Lout_Rampage

Dallas, TX
May 2005

SEP 27, 2007 10:54 PM

It's this kind of thing that has caused me to postpone childbearing until after graduation.
But I guess she had no choice but to get pregnant in the middle of med school. whatever

Lockeblade

Lockeblade

Australia
May 2007

SEP 27, 2007 10:56 PM

I can but shake my head and a) continue to thank chance that I'm not female and b) mourn a lost pre-organised religious world of morality that celebrated women as the mother of our children. Instead, a couple thousand years later we're still paying for the legacy of women as sinners and whores that religious doctrines have left us.

SirLoins

sirloins

Huntington Beach, CA
October 2005

SEP 27, 2007 11:42 PM

I got nothing against titties or the beverages women can produce. Hell, my favorite shot, the Fun Bag, features human breast milk...

... but can't she just pump while she's taking care of other bodily functions? Two birds, one stone? I think this is exactly what Jesus would do.

On the other hand, I'm sure the other students wouldn't mind an extra 20-minute break! biggrin

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

SEP 28, 2007 12:01 AM

SirLoins said:
I got nothing against titties or the beverages women can produce. Hell, my favorite shot, the Fun Bag, features human breast milk...

... but can't she just pump while she's taking care of other bodily functions? Two birds, one stone? I think this is exactly what Jesus would do.

On the other hand, I'm sure the other students wouldn't mind an extra 20-minute break! biggrin



Uh, would you want to feed your child something prepared while you were taking a piss or a shit? That is not only disgusting, it's also extremely unhygienic.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

SEP 28, 2007 12:11 AM

Lout_Rampage said:
It's this kind of thing that has caused me to postpone childbearing until after graduation.
But I guess she had no choice but to get pregnant in the middle of med school. whatever



You do realize that it takes a minimum of about 11 years to become a physician... should life be completely put on hold during this time? Especially since it is common knowledge that a woman's fertility begins to decrease at age 25, and gets lower every year after. Not to mention that it would probably be easier to deal with night feedings and such while still in school, with a somewhat regular schedule, then while completing residency, or after becoming a full fledged doctor, with screwed up hours, and being on call...

What a ridiculous and judgemental thing to say. whatever

Cedar

Cedar

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

SEP 28, 2007 12:29 AM

oh thank god! i remember reading the original post about this. all i could think about was what an enormously retarded waste of time the whole argument was. just give the woman her damn 20 minutes! i'd like to see any person on the face of the planet be in the same situation and not feel the need to ask for some extra time.

bmp

bmp

Canada
September 2004

SEP 28, 2007 12:55 AM

Lout_Rampage said:
It's this kind of thing that has caused me to postpone childbearing until after graduation.
But I guess she had no choice but to get pregnant in the middle of med school. whatever



Well, I mean if she actually wanted to HAVE kids yes.
In north america the amount of time it takes to become a dr. is REDICULOUS! I'm sorry it should NOT take 10 years to become a Dr. I have been informed that our friends across the ocean in places like india and the UK have shorter amounts of time to become a Dr. That said, it could also use to have alot less "class room" time and more practical work aswell. I am sure we could shorten the whole thing by removing courses that have nothing to do with their profession, like maths and basic sciences, make their courses teach the math and basic science portions that they need within themselves etc.


I hate our schooling system, can't you tell?

Nimbusfool

Nimbusfool

Moscow, ID
August 2006

SEP 28, 2007 01:00 AM

so what are the guide lines for special circumstances for bodily functions? I have to [any number of things] how do we respect everyone. Is it not the american way to demand more in light of what others get? How do you flat standard and accomidate all no matter what gender the needs they have?

I agree though, whats a pause, in the standard time it takes her to do her test? As long as her time is equal with all the others in total amount. Though everyone else should then get a boidly function break that they can take at any time during the test. Thats fair for everyone. Of course this is exculding the manditory break in the middle of the test. Though this only covers a normal smaller period of time, there would have to be second functions like chronic pants shitting. I imagine that would really skew a persons focus.

thats how I would do it

edith

edith

France
April 2006

SEP 28, 2007 01:05 AM

Clidna said:

Lout_Rampage said:
It's this kind of thing that has caused me to postpone childbearing until after graduation.
But I guess she had no choice but to get pregnant in the middle of med school. whatever



You do realize that it takes a minimum of about 11 years to become a physician... should life be completely put on hold during this time? Especially since it is common knowledge that a woman's fertility begins to decrease at age 25, and gets lower every year after. Not to mention that it would probably be easier to deal with night feedings and such while still in school, with a somewhat regular schedule, then while completing residency, or after becoming a full fledged doctor, with screwed up hours, and being on call...

What a ridiculous and judgemental thing to say. whatever



whatever clinda..she should just do the responsible thing and have her kids when she's retired.

edith

edith

France
April 2006

SEP 28, 2007 01:05 AM

whoa, what a crazy glitch!

edith

edith

France
April 2006

SEP 28, 2007 01:06 AM

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

10k

10k

San Antonio, TX
July 2002

SEP 28, 2007 01:14 AM

Still waiting for somebody to say how much break time they were allotted during the 9 hour test. If there was only, say 20 or 30 minutes break time altogether, then fine, give her an extra break. But if there was more like an hour of scheduled break time, then that should be plenty of time to do her business.

JoeyC

JoeyC

I'm lost
December 2004

SEP 28, 2007 01:25 AM

I'll laugh if she fails the test anyway =p

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

SEP 28, 2007 04:08 AM

Yeah, everyone knows you should be able to do whatever you want all the time with no consequences.

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