I as well would like some elaboration on the part of the author of this here newswire article as to just what exactly she would deem a proper reaction on the part of Senator Kerry in this situation.

As it stands, the condemnation of him with no supporting argument (actually, with nothing more than one inaccurate supporting statement--that Kerry "did nothing," which isn't true) just comes off as kind of stupid, to be honest.

How is having at least a fundamental understanding of law enforcement practices advocating fascism?

I would appreciate a clear answer to this, which I doubt I'll get from a man who clearly advocates ignorance and gullibility.

Well , apparently I struck a nerve then ? The truth shall set us free in the end . Deny as long as you want though and keep eating fast food . Go America !

A club, mace and a boot in the face? That's is a fascist idea of law enforcement. That's the type of thing we are trying to prevent here in America. Everybody has rights, including obnoxious kids with conspiracy theories.

Well, if we're going to start throwing opinions around; I doubt that idea will appeal to you...

And welcome to the police state.

Merely listing the other methods of restraint available for use by law enforcement entities is fascist, eh? You're a funny one.

These are all things an officer of the law CAN (and often WILL) do to your dumb ass if you fight back. They are allowed to use whatever means of subdual and restraint will not kill you when you are not a threat to their life, but ARE a threat to their physical safety. If you struggle, you are a threat. They chose the method least likely to do lasting physical damage. Face it already, they were being NICE. They gave him every opportunity to comply. He refused. He kept trying to get away from them, pushing and shoving and flailing. ZAP. Fuck him.

I'd love to zap this asswad again, personally, and record it so I can have it remixed into the next bad techno tune. Know any good DJ's?

Learn the definition of the word before you use it. And...


For the love of God...


Take some fucking law classes already.

The kid clearly wasn't a threat, yet you're saying he's lucky they didn't put a "boot in his face", then attempted to backtrack by saying, "I'm just listing the mere possibilities". So fine, you're not advocating fascism, you're just being an apologist for poor police judgement.

People already noticed the tazer WAY before the "Don't taze me". At least that's what I got. :/

You're very welcome. But I'm not your buddy.

A) No one ever said he was a politician "worth his salt"
B) You are sitting there in your comfortable room in your comfortable chair with your comfortable lack of mental facility and enjoying the benefit of hindsight and perspective. Kerry had none of those things. He was giving a speech and next thing he saw, shit had gotten out of control. He was probably just as confused and startled as anyone else. Now, could he have said something? Absolutely. Should we have expected anyone, let alone him, to do anything? Absolutely not. Would the police have been obligated to do anything at all different if he had spoken up more than he did? Absolutely not. Nothing at all would have changed. Nothing. If you think otherwise, you're dumb.

That couldn't be more irrelevant.

See above.

I know you are but what am I!?!?!?!

Again, for the ridiculously idiotic: Kerry has NO FUCKING AUTHORITY to tell the police to do ANYTHING. He's just a dude with a microphone. Microphones are not magic instruments that convey legal authority upon the holder. And whether he said something or not, the police were going to continue to do whatever they were going to continue to do because they knew that. If you can't understand that, that's your problem.

That's about all you got left.

All I did in the first place is list the possibilities, little lamb. There was no backtracking. I simply put it in a context that a cud-grazing little sheep like yourself MIGHT understand, but once again you misinterpret me.

Here:

Try pissing off a cop to the point where they decide you're going with them. Now struggle your ass off. Don't stop, no matter what. Then get back to me on how they handled your dumb ass. And I'll laugh and explain once again that it's STANDARD PROCEDURE.

Have a nice day, little lamb.

Well, this is what I get for getting into a political debate with a half-assed pirate.

'lack of mental facility', wow. kisses to you, too.

i understand what youre saying about kerry's lack of legal authority. however, politicians exercise authority in legally questionable situations all the time. theyre politicians. i do think kerry would have had input into the situation had he chosen to raise his voice a little. he's not just 'a dude with a micriphone', hes the guest of honor, and the reason everyone is in the room. that automatically gives him some authority, whether its legal or not. i quiver and shudder with horror at the notion that i might be 'dumb' in your eyes, subrosa. it keeps me awake at night.

Man that really sucks. The worst part about it is you can't help the poor guy bc the situation would just get worse for everyone and by struggling he makes it worse for himself.
Kerry wasn't really making much of an attempt to have him released either which was priceless btw.
masterfrederick is correct that it is standard operating procedure but with the amount of officers surrounding meyer, the taser was excessive.

Political debate? Please. Your sense of moral outrage has blinded you, little lamb. Rather than see the issue as it is, and look up a few laws or statutes, you instead resort to middle-school insults. Get back in the flock, before the dog bites you in the ass, little lamb.