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While I was in Phoenix, a couple months ago Barry Graham, a Zen teacher in the Rinzai lineage out there turned me on to an article called “Spaces in the Sky” written by Stephen Batchelor in response to the events of September 11, 2001. It originally appeared in the Winter 2001 issue of Tricycle magazine and is now on-line at Batchelor’s website. Barry recalled the article as stating that our right to practice Buddhism is underwritten by violence. That’s not what the article says exactly, but it’s easy to see how he could have remembered it that way. What Batchelor actually says is, “Our freedoms and privileges in a liberal democracy are ultimately guaranteed by the willingness of the state to use violence to protect them.” Later he asks, “Is an open society that tolerates dissent even possible without its being underwritten by violence?”

Batchelor points out that the Buddhist dictum in the Dharmapada that, “Hatred will not cease by hatred but only by love alone” is often used by Buddhists to justify a complacent attitude when their freedom to practice was threatened. Batchelor gives examples of cases where Buddhists have allowed themselves to be massacred in order to uphold their commitment to non-violence. He also points out that Tibet accepted military protection from China hoping they would be allowed to continue practicing their faith without having to protect it militarily themselves. This strategy backfired big time.

Whether Batchelor actually said it in so many words or not the idea that our freedom to practice Buddhism is underwritten by violence is an important one worth looking at closely especially for practitioners in the United States today. In my travels around the country I’ve noticed that most American Buddhists are strongly opposed to President Bush and his military policies. This opposition seems to stem from their notion that, as Buddhists, we must stand opposed to all forms of violence. But I wonder if it’s realistic for Buddhists to be opposed to all forms of violence in the way that most Buddhists in the US conceive of that notion.

Yesterday I got to talk to the members of the band Millions of Dead Cops, a group that the band I was in, Zero Defex, opened up for numerous times in 1982-83. Back then the subject of anarchism used to come up a lot in our discussions of punk philosophy. The idea of anarchy sounded very cool. But, as much as we hated the cops, all of us knew that, whether we wanted to admit it or not, our ability to walk down the streets of Akron, Ohio in 1982 in our green Mohawks and leather jackets was largely underwritten by the threat of violence by the cops against the many rednecks in the area who would likely have massacred us gleefully if not for fear of reprisal by the police. The cops were there to protect our freedom of expression. Were it not for them, the less forward thinking elements of the community might not have been so tolerant of the way we flaunted their conventions. We found this out in a very concrete way when we played a show in a rural town in Southern Ohio and had to be saved by the cops from an angry mob of bearded bikers who didn’t care for the way we looked or the music we played.

In much the same way in the world at large today the freedom we have in Western countries to practice Buddhism -- or indeed many other socially deviant philosophies and practices like punk rock, tattooing, homosexuality and all the rest -- is guaranteed to a large extent by the fact that we are protected by the biggest and scariest military force the world has ever known. There are certainly plenty of folks out there who would like to see us stop practicing whatever beliefs we have and be forced to adopt theirs or die.

The world is a sandbox in back of an elementary school. The exact same dynamics that play out in the playground play out in the world of politics and nations. We need a big bully on our side. That may not be something to be proud of. But it's a fact. To deny that fact is absolutely unrealistic. Buddhism is never unrealistic.

It is true that Buddhism seeks to end the need for the use of violence. However, we can’t jump to the conclusion that if we only just all disarmed everybody would be cool. The problem is to understand why we still need violence to underwrite freedom.

We won’t stop violence by dressing up in paisley frocks and sticking daisies in the barrels of AK-47s. Such action is still motivated by ego. It is based on the idea that I, Mr. Buddhist Pacifist, am better than you, you nasty Republican warmonger. The very same force that makes violence an unavoidable part of human life is the one that tries, through a different kind of violence, to overcome violence. This is really what Buddha meant by saying that hatred is not overcome by hatred. We need to find a way to completely step out of our habitual modes of reaction in order to find the real solution to our very pressing problems.

The only way to do this is to truly understand who we are and to allow that understanding to spread gradually throughout the world. As Buddhists it may not be necessary for we, ourselves, to go out and participate in the violence perpetrated to protect our right to practice -- though there is certainly nothing at all wrong with being a practicing Buddhist and member of the military. But it also does not benefit our practice to stand in the way of the necessary steps being taken to uphold our right to practice.

War is bad. I’m going to write that again just so no one mistakenly thinks I believe otherwise. War is bad. War is very, very bad. It’s a tragedy when non-combatants are injured and killed by war. It’s also a tragedy when combatants are injured and killed by war. I want war to end just as passionately as anyone else. But unrealistic solutions only serve to delay the real solution to the problem. This is an urgent problem, one that requires serious attention. What I see in the pacifist movement more often than not these days, I’m afraid, is a lack of serious commitment to the real ending of war.

Batchelor states that, “One can imagine this verse (about hate only being overcome by love) being intoned by Indian Buddhist monks while their monasteries burned, just as now devout e-mail messages are dispatched to the White House urging restraint and compassion. And just as its sentiments were ineffective in turning back the tide of Muslim aggression in India, so they may be equally ineffective in halting the course of violent retaliation against latter-day Islamic terrorism.”

Right on, brother.

The solution to the problem of violence is complex and I’m not even going to try to outline some course of action right here on Labor Day on Suicide Girls. But I think it’s vital that we understand the way the threat of violence, as well as real violence itself, makes it possible for us to practice. Nuff said, for now.

Here’s where I’ll be in the coming weeks (please don’t get violent with me there):

Boulder & Ft. Collins, Colorado:
• Monday September 10, 2007 - 7:30 pm Boulder Bookstore 1107 Pearl Street - Author Event

• Tuesday September 11, 2007 Noon – Colorado State University Bookstore - The Lory Student Center at CSU Ft. Collins, CO

• Tuesday September 11, 2007 7 PM - CSU Anthropology Club The Lory Student Center at CSU, Ft. Collins - Author Event

• Wednesday, September 12, 2007 Interview for Elevision TV show. Be part of the live in-studio audience! Doors close at 7pm. The show will be at Trilogy, 2017 13th St. in downtown Boulder

Cleveland, Ohio
• Saturday October 6, 2007 9:15 PM, Cleveland Premier of my movie "Cleveland's Screaming!" at the Celevland Institute of Art

Akron, Ohio:
November 7,2007 at the Akron Public Library

Brad Warner is the author of Hardcore Zen and Sit Down and Shut Up!. He maintains a blog about Buddhist stuff. If you're in Southern California and you want to try some Zazen for yourself, he has a group that meets every Saturday in Santa Monica. This is open to anyone who wants to show up.

 

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alpha22

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ
May 2005
aaronthere

aaronthere

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

SEP 03, 2007 12:37 PM

I don't see the contradiction really. The reality of a situation, and where you stand on the matter are two completely seperate measurements. You can be a pacifist with the understanding that war is a ugly part of the human condition. You can be a vegetarian with the understanding people will forever be eating animals. people need to make decisions that feel right for themselves, not for the good of society, because there will never be a consensus on what that should be.

Himadhaman

Himadhaman

San Francisco, CA
October 2004

SEP 03, 2007 12:54 PM



yes, because its IMPOSSIBLE to imagine that he might not have been a part of that, or that his ideas might not necessarily be the exact same as those... RIGHT?!!

i'm really rather sick of someone saying something good, and the first comment being some petty dis about what someone using the same practice did. we are more than our associations.

buttnuggett

buttnuggett

Fresno, CA
August 2003

SEP 03, 2007 01:36 PM

I'd like to thank Brad for bringing some nuance to the dialogue. I too do not wish to be misconstrued as endorcing war or excessive internal state violence, but it seems to me that some factions of anarchism tend to oversimplify the debate. oink

ZPO

ZPO

Olympia, WA
July 2004

SEP 03, 2007 02:13 PM

Thank you.

darkcharge

darkcharge

USA
June 2006

SEP 03, 2007 02:30 PM

Thanks for the in-depth commentary Brad.

If all Buddhists are lost in death to violent conquering religions there will no longer be Buddhism. That would be bad.



Not all Buddhists are from Japan.

GRAK

GRAK

Iraq
February 2007

SEP 03, 2007 02:55 PM

Good article, it hit on a few thoughts that have run through my brain in the past in regards to having the bully on your side, violence as the phenomena that allows civil liberties, etc.. I'm not saying that I 100% agree with it all but it's cool to read something in relation to said topics although to comment any further would require a little more research on my part, but, great article, nonetheless.

metalxsexkitten

metalxsexkitten

USA
June 2005

SEP 03, 2007 03:57 PM

"homosexulaity" im sorry does any one spell check these things.. i am such a grammar nazi.

DickieV

DickieV

Henderson, NV
February 2003

SEP 03, 2007 04:07 PM

THanks for another great column. I was scared there weren't going to be anymore when I checked Saturday and saw how long ago the last one was. I see by your blog you are now bi......weekly. I like to tell people I'm vegan.........Las Vegan.

Jessewestend

Jessewestend

Murfreesboro, TN
OLD SKOOL

SEP 03, 2007 04:32 PM



alpha22 said:
You should do some reading about your linage before you cast the first stone.



you should really clarify your argument before you end up looking like an asshat.

by the way, though, i loved the article you linked. I just have no clue what cohesive point you thought linking to it could make.

Jessewestend

Jessewestend

Murfreesboro, TN
OLD SKOOL

SEP 03, 2007 04:34 PM

ps. lin-e-age.

Moonrabbit

Moonrabbit

Kingston, ON
February 2005

SEP 03, 2007 04:38 PM



Japanese adopted Buddhism a little later on than the Tibetans and Chinese.
And a religion can be based on peace and love, while still having followers who would act violently in it's name. Like Christianity, Islam, etc. Duh.
Doesn't make those followers right.

To eliminate all violence in the world would be difficult. Not only do you have to resolve every major conflict, but there would always have to be someone willing to commit violence to protect those for whom it goes against religion.
All anger would have to cease. Every child who was bullied, neglected by a parent, or teen who's heart was broken when he/she had to fall for the other girl/guy and wasn't raised to deal with their feelings in a constructive manor.
Even when they are raised properly it's hard.
Anger is an emotion like it or not, that will cause violence somewhere eventually.

Even if everybody could live peacefully and content under a peaceful lifestyle, weather it be Buddhist, Christian, Islam, everything coexisting. Eventually someone would become discontent with what they have and that would threaten everything.

The only way for any diversity of people to live together is if you have the 'bullies' so to speak, around and willing to fight for those who can't/won't. Doesn't make the soldiers any better than the pacifists and it doesn't mean the pacifists are any better than the soldiers.
You need a society that values peace, a force to protect it, and not look for excuses to display that force.

KirbyTheGenius

KirbyTheGenius

Clinton Township, MI
September 2006

SEP 03, 2007 04:40 PM


First off, I didn't see much casting of stones.
Much of Brad's work is aimed at stripping away formalities such as importance of lineage. Most of what he discusses (and teaches) relates to his personal experience, or the experiences of Buddha and Dogen--founders who lived long before Tokugawa Ieyasu came to power (approximately 2000 years and 400 years, respectively).
Brad's sensei, Gudo Nishijima, sees the Soto sect as (excuse me if I'm not quoting exactly) "a union of funeral directors," so that shows you how close to the lineage he is.

Also, the author of the book reviewed in the link you offered is a priest in the Soto sect himself.

But, really, does lineage, sect, or denomination matter in the end? Nope.
A great number of terrible things have been caused by all sorts of people claiming to belong to one religion or another.
Popes have started wars and lead armies, caliphs have sacked holy cities, and so on.

What matters is not how you label yourself, but how you act.

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

SEP 03, 2007 05:55 PM

Oh come on. Have you really fallen for that stupid lie that the reason we have a large, powerful and aggressive military is to protect our American freedoms (of religious practice, of expression, of electoral democracy, etc). From what, those evil terrorists who hate us because we have freedoms and civil liberties?

War, as waged by the US in this historical epoch, is carried out in order to defend and expand the 'rights' of multinational corporations to exploit the material and human resources of sovereign nations outside our own territory. In other cases in recent history the US has waged war on other countries to prevent competing superpowers from getting a stakehold in strategically important geographic locations, that is on an ideological or political basis as opposed to economic resource wars. Even WWII was more of a case of a contest between the industrial republics as to how to manage, control and exploit their respective citizenries rather than to protect our democratic liberties.

I find it hard to believe that someone such as the author of this blog, who professes an association with the leftist politics of hardcore and punk rock, would fall for such a jingoist line of BS as this article is based upon...

SuperCrunch

SuperCrunch

Birmingham, AL
January 2007

SEP 03, 2007 06:01 PM

It is important for those who believe in their freedoms and the freedoms of others to be prepared to fight for those freedoms. Regardless of religion or ideology that is the cold hard truth of it. There will always be someone looking to oppress someone else.

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