If I choose to smoke, why should you have to pay for my lung transplant?

If I choose to drink heavily, why should you have to pay for my liver transplant?

If you are a teen girl, choose to have sex and get pregnant, why should America be responsible for paying your medical expenses?

So no Bitch_PhD, socialized medicine doesn't "look pretty goddamn good" ...if you're pro-choice and pro-consequence.

Someone pays a much higher cost than tax dollars to give a lung transplant, first of all.

Secondly, if a teen girl gets pregnant, it's very likely that her parents will support her somewhat. If they do not support her and she carries the child to term the cost will likely be heavy anyway because a teen mother who isn't being supported isn't likely to have healthcare, so right there America is footing the bill. If she is given better healthcare from the get go the cost will generally be lower over time because a child that is healthy early on tends to stay healthier in the long run.

Also, it takes one bad choice to become a teen mother, whereas it takes continuous disregard for your own health to require a liver or lung transplant.

xazapdmytinu said:

"Also, it takes one bad choice to become a teen mother, whereas it takes continuous disregard for your own health to require a liver or lung transplant."

...But why am I required to pay for EITHER choice if I didn't make it?

newsflash: women don't choose to get pregnant. it either happens or it doesn't and it's not ultimately within our control.

also, what the fuck does "pro-consequence" even mean? an unwanted child is not a punishment for slutting around, mmkay?

i know, it's like go back under your bridge already!

Smokers don't get lung transplants. Most alcoholics don't get liver transplants. The answer to your question is, however, first that there's such a thing as "public health" and second that while obviously you are healthy right now (or you wouldn't be making such asinine statements), you're using entitlements that other people have paid for. Such as the fucking internet. That and it's actually cheaper to fund public health than it is not to.

I fucking hate libertarian assholes. Apologies to Morgan and RileyStClair for being unable to follow their better examples.

Because it is biologically normal for humans to have sex. We are hard-wired to do it. It is not biologically normal for humans to drink and smoke.

i beg to differ.
some of us got the "lush" gene, ok?

Dipso sapiens of the world, unite!

This argument should be enough to sway even the most libertarian (though it never is.)

That and the fact that preventive care such as what would be covered under SCHIP is far, far cheaper to society as a whole than even HMOs having to later cover subsequent health problems resulting from insufficient care during early childhood.

And because, you know, at some level most of us are still human beings and it's the decent thing to do.

Good luck getting that kind of acknowledgment from people like this though.

Good article.

Right, because the debate about funding a public healthcare system is soley a womens issue. I don't have a better solution, but I'm not interested paying for other people's healthcare, or other people's anything for that matter, unless I choose to. I don't have a problem giving a vagrant my takeout if I see fit, but I have a problem with someone coming up to me and telling me to give that same person my takeout. I plunk into the employee fund at work every week, that way if someone's house burns down or spouse dies, they have a bit of money to cover some costs. But it's my choice to contribute to the fund, I'm sure that my dilhole boss sure as hell doesn't contribute, and that's his choice.
If I were given the choice to pay into a public healthcare system or not to, I probally would contribute a few percent of my check per week. But I'm not happy about someone TELLING me to pay into it.
Time to jump on me and make me look like an asshole.