I don't like involving myself in discussions when I have not done the research, but I did come across several articles that indicated the gender-wage gap was actually closer than people once thought. In fact, the article stated that women make slightly more than men do. The popular research that says otherwise actually took the average wages made by all women and average wages made by all men and compared them side-by-side, without any metrics that could account for differences in education, experience, or occupation. In such a slanted statistical analysis, there would be a huge difference between the two. However, without having hard sources to back-up these statements, I really cannot stand by them very well; I just felt like putting my two-cents in.

I am interested to see how this new research changes things, though. I hope with this information we can close the gender-wage gap and encourage equitable treatment of each other in the workplace.

One might care about your position were you to express it without sounding like a sailor.

Actually, Formus, I am all for equality. What I am not for is gender bashing during the process to get there.

It's much like blacks working towards eliminating racism but calling whites "honkeys" while expecting to be taken respectfully.

Name-calling and hostility is not the way to a peaceful resolve.

You added this after your original post:

I believe you are mistaken as to what self-esteem is.

You should look up the word "narcissist" sometime.

Hush.

There's an issue here worth acknowledging, and we really don't need to make this all about Prof. Bitch.

And as someone who's happy to take her on when I feel it's appropriate, can I please say that right now, it's worth acknowledging how men and women respond to men and women who are other than sweetness and light, and the implications of that (and the fact that we all respond differently, on average, to men as compared to women who are other than sweetness and light) -- and that gratuitous sniping at the Professor is kind of unhelpful at this juncture.

I think Prof. Bitch's sense of self-importance is way overinflated, but again, we could, y'know, not make this about her.

Awesomely hilarious.

And of course I think I'm superior. I am.

umm, that's cool, I guess.

Hey....he started it!!!

But yeah. It is sad that the original point of the story has become lost because of the way it was delivered.

I agree. This comes across as being an impulsive article that was written in a moment of rage. It would have benefitted intellectually from the author taking a more emotionally objective stance - possibly waiting a day or two after reading the article which offended her, before submitting this one.

I know myself, though, that when faced with an attitude that appalls you, it's not easy to resist flinging out the vitriol.

perhaps this has less to do with gender based pay and more to do with the way our society teaches negotiation skills to children... Girls should be given the same early childhood experiences that boys are

thats not to say that men with inferiority complexes don't run things poorly (that much we all know) but more to say that the same "men" tend to make poor staffing decisions regardless of gender.

How so? I'm curious.

Is "honky" really a hostile term? I mean, watch reruns of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. I think that white folks like myself and my relatives need to be reminded, with great frequency, how fucking ridiculous we are.

Honky.

Oh......oh no you di'in't!

You can't seriously compare dialog on The Jeffersons with trying to communicate the importance of racial equality to a race that is oppressing you.

Cracka!

In regards to the story though, I'm a little confused as to how current the study was and how relevant it is to today's times.

One link I found suggests that this study was done approximately 10 years ago.

AND, if you read this study, it wasn't applicable to any real businesses. These were all volunteers in a study. They weren't actual hiring authorities nor were they actual would be co-workers.

The negotiated "salary" was actually just a fee to participate in the study. A whopping $3-$10.



Please correct me if I'm wrong.