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  • TUESDAY JULY 10 2007 5:36 PM

SuicideGirls Enter Captivity Launch Party



Your wait to enter Captivity ends tonight at the launch party hosted by Dave Navarro and SuicideGirls.

As newswire readers are surely aware -- Captivity, directed by Roland Joffe, is an underground, spine chilling thriller that follows the story of a young woman who is abducted, held against her will and tortured for days. The live broadcast will include: celebrity interviews on the red carpet, and live interviews with some of your favorite Suicide Girls.

 

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norritt

norritt

Chandler, AZ
December 2002

JUL 11, 2007 02:01 PM

i honestly just don't like large swaths of the population

i basically only own cartoons or horror movies
tiny toons next to devil's rejects next to voltron next to i spit on your grave
it's just how i roll
judge as you will skull

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 11, 2007 02:47 PM

dingoes8 said:
I'm not a huge fan of torture movies, though I have seen many. But the whole WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS?!?! argument is so stupid and really pisses me off.

Why do people like Sex and the City?
Why do people like the Coen Brothers?
Why do people like David Lynch?
Why do people like 50 Cent?

These are all pointless questions. Just because I don't personally like them doesn't mean I deserve some answer for why other people like them.

Why? Who the fuck cares, and why is it any of your business?

Tell me why you cut your hair like that, why you wear the clothes you wear, why you decorate your apartment the way you do, and maybe I won't be quite so offended when you feel justified in asking me why I like a certain type of FICTIONAL movie.

I wish people would stop pretending to be some champion of art or helpless women/tourists/Cary Elweses by making a big deal out of the fact that they don't like these movies. It doesn't make you a better person than anyone who watches them.

The fact that the "Why do people like this?" question is so everpresent with this movie and not others actually reminds me of the whole "nice guy" shtick, like "I love women and would never degrade them/disrespect them/watch a movie with them being tortured. In fact, I cannot even understand why people would want to do such a thing! Do you want to have sex with me yet!?!?!"


I was simply trying to understand something that was totally repugnant to me that many other people seem to enjoy. Lots of people like country music, I can't stand it. I stated many time s that I was NOT passing judgment on anyone, I was merely curious. I never once said anything about censoring the movie, or that people should not see it. If I did I'd like you to point out where. As far as using the "nice guy" shtick to get laid or something, I've been married for over a decade, so getting laid is not a problem for me. I don't understand why you have to personally attack me when I never attacked, belittled or even suggested to anyone that their interest in the morbid was wrong in any way, or that they had no right to feel that way.

thrash242

thrash242

Pearland, TX
September 2004

JUL 11, 2007 02:50 PM

GonzoChaote said:

thrash242 said:
Some people just like stuff like that, myself included. I'm into all sorts of dark and morbid things; I have been since I was a kid. I read horror magazines and books, I watch horror movies, I play horror games I have horror dreams.

Why don't you like stuff like that? It's just as valid a question. Can you explain why you don't like horror?



Torture porn =/= horror.

Many of the film's detractors are long time horror fans like me who can't help but roll their eyes at the rise of torture porn.



The guy I was responding to said he doesn't like horror or any of this other stuff either.

I was making a general statement about dark and morbid things.

I think "torture porn" as you call it can very well be horror--it depends on the movie. I think it's generally much more horror than many so-called horror movies. I don't generally consider slasher movies to be horror, for instance. Nor do I consider movies where things jump out at you to be horror. Horror should actually horrify, not just scare you.

thrash242

thrash242

Pearland, TX
September 2004

JUL 11, 2007 02:53 PM

gillycat said:
oh yeah, this is really empowering. SGs in electrical tape licking cream pies off of each other while dave navarro eggs them on a la joe francis.

since the live link disappeared from the article, go here



I don't pay money to be a member of this site for empowerment. I pay for this site to see naked women. If those women want to dress in electrical tape and lick cream pies off each other then that's all good with me. Actually that sounds pretty interesting.

I think too many people attach some sort of political statement to this site. It's porn. It's not your average porn, but it's still porn.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JUL 11, 2007 02:55 PM

Quinne said:
well i had a fucking ball!



Pictures?!

thrash242

thrash242

Pearland, TX
September 2004

JUL 11, 2007 02:57 PM

Rafi said:

thefreak said:

gillycat said:
oh yeah, this is really empowering. SGs in electrical tape licking cream pies off of each other while dave navarro eggs them on a la joe francis.

since the live link disappeared from the article, go here


Then don't go see the movie. Go home, watch something safe like The Sound of Music, and STFU. Nobody's forcing you to go, and your smarmy little comment belittling the SGs who are going to this event of their own volition makes you just come across as an elitist douchenozzle.

-TM



Yes, clearly the only two representative choices on the entire entertainment landscape are Captivity or The Sound of Music.

False dilemma fallacy, anyone?



That isn't a fallacy, because it's not his main point and it obviously was not intended to be a rigorous logical argument. It was sarcasm.

His main point is that no one has to watch, support, or participate in this movie event, so people shouldn't make self-righteous comments about "empowerment". That point still stands independently of a sarcastic comment about "The Sound of Music".

thrash242

thrash242

Pearland, TX
September 2004

JUL 11, 2007 02:59 PM

smithers_jones said:
Why am I not surprised that a society whose government is one of the leading practitioners and advocates of torture would produce a movie such as this?



You probably think you're being edgy and clever.

You're not.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

JUL 11, 2007 03:45 PM

thrash242 said:

smithers_jones said:
Why am I not surprised that a society whose government is one of the leading practitioners and advocates of torture would produce a movie such as this?



You probably think you're being edgy and clever.

You're not.



Thanks for the cogent and completely relevant comment, Hoss.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

JUL 11, 2007 03:49 PM

thrash242 said:

That isn't a fallacy, because it's not his main point and it obviously was not intended to be a rigorous logical argument.



And as everybody knows, one can only commit a logical fallacy in when making "their main point" or when they actually intend to be make a logical argument.

Vanessa

Vanessa

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

JUL 11, 2007 06:50 PM

God, you people are ridiculous.

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUL 11, 2007 08:07 PM

Vanessa said:
God, you people are ridiculous.



Clairific

Clairific

Los Angeles, CA
August 2005

JUL 11, 2007 09:29 PM

LA Times story

Suicide Girls secured guests in dentist chairs with leather straps and posed for souvenir photos. Half a dozen of them _ with black gaffer's tape worn in Xs across their nipples _ surrounded ex-Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Dave Navarro, who was guest-veejaying for some online vessel of institutional youth culture and looked like he wished he could be anywhere else. (For the uninitiated, Suicide Girls is a kind of soft-core porn website for men, like Maxim magazine with tattoos, and its official denizens here doubled as strippers, background talent and designated cheesecake.)

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 11, 2007 10:44 PM

armst said:
Suicide Girls is a kind of soft-core porn website



Shh. Don't say that too loudly. You might offend someone.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUL 11, 2007 10:48 PM

Rafi said:



I am appropriating this image. biggrin

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 12, 2007 10:47 AM

armst said:
LA Times story

Suicide Girls secured guests in dentist chairs with leather straps and posed for souvenir photos. Half a dozen of them _ with black gaffer's tape worn in Xs across their nipples _ surrounded ex-Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Dave Navarro, who was guest-veejaying for some online vessel of institutional youth culture and looked like he wished he could be anywhere else. (For the uninitiated, Suicide Girls is a kind of soft-core porn website for men, like Maxim magazine with tattoos, and its official denizens here doubled as strippers, background talent and designated cheesecake.)



For men? Maxim with tattoos?
That description hurts my brain.

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