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  • TUESDAY JUNE 26 2007 5:00 PM

Shitbag Misogynist Plans to Exploit SuicideGirls



The latest installment in the sickening genre of films best described as Torture Porn, Captivity, is scheduled for release later this month, but before it vanishes into the DVD world after two weeks, producer Courtney Solomon plans to exploit SuicideGirls to promote his film.

Having already provoked parents, women’s groups and the ratings board with explicit ads for the coming torture movie “Captivity,” Mr. Solomon and his After Dark Films now intend to introduce the film, set for release July 13, with a party that may set a new standard for the politically incorrect.

For starters, Mr. Solomon has ordered up what he calls the three “most outlandish” SuicideGirls available from the punk porn service, even if they’re as frisky as the ones he is told once set a Portland, OR restaurant on fire. Some lucky fans will get to take the women as dates for party night, July 10, on two conditions: “People take the date at their own risk, and everybody on the Internet gets to watch.”

When did artistic nudity become known as pornography? Did I miss a memo? And when did SuicideGirls become a service? Are we offering outcall massage now?

In his remarks to the New York Times, Solomon comes across as a repugnant misogynist:

As Mr. Solomon envisions it, individuals in torture gear will wander through the West Hollywood club Privilege grabbing partygoers. All of which is a prelude to an undisclosed main event that, he warned last week over slices of pizza a few doors from his company’s new offices on the Sunset Strip, is “probably not legal.”

“The women’s groups definitely will love it,” Mr. Solomon hinted. “I call it my personal little tribute to them.”

Any Suicide Girls who are contacted for this "promotion" should tell him to go fuck himself. SuicideGirls is about empowering women, not about letting scumbags like Solomon exploit them to glorify violence against women.


SG Editorial: Wil let us know how he feels about Gorn in general and this promotion in particular. Here to share her thoughts is Missy Suicide:

First let me state that I am happy to read Wil's commentary and glad that the SG Newswire can be a meeting ground for debate. While I definitely appreciate Wil's opinion and feel that he should share his feelings, I personally do not see anything wrong with the girls going out on a chaperoned date to a movie premiere. Many of the SGs are fans of horror films -- even torture porn horror films -- and would probably have interesting things to say about the film. While I do agree with Wil that SuicideGirls is not pornography and shouldn't be referred to as such, that misnomer is Captivity producer Mr. Soloman's biggest offense and an important distinction that I will discuss with him.

He is planning a crazy Hollywood party full of debauchery but I don't think that puts the SuicideGirls at risk of anything they wouldn't encounter on their own during a night out on the town. They will have a chaperone and the date will be broadcast on the Internet putting them at even less risk for physical or emotional harm than most church social attendees.

The girls on the other hand have free reign to do whatever they feel like. I would be far more worried about the person they are going out on a date with than the girls themselves, having partied with a few of the ladies myself and after hearing Nixon's account of sending a roller blader to the hospital on the first tour DVD. And while "Blind Date" was not my favorite show, I was not worried about SG Bee when she was set up on a date with a midget. She had a fun time and made some money for being on TV. The girls who attend will have a fun time, get to go to a Hollywood party and be paid well to have their evening broadcast.

We have done promotions with Courtney in the past and, while he is not afraid of controversy, I don't think that makes him a bad person. I believe in people's rights to freedom of expression and don't see what it so wrong about pushing boundaries. No one is forcing anyone to see the movie. Adults should be able to make up their own mind about what they see and what they don't.

Personally, I love horror movies. Being scared is one of my favorite things; I scream like a little girl and throw popcorn around and it is fun times. I have not seen this movie yet so I can't say if I like it or not, but my taste in horror movies is embarrassingly bad so you probably shouldn't take my opinion anyway. I will watch everything from creepy Japanese horror like Ichi the Killer and the Korean movie Old Boy that are just disturbingly fucked up, to big Hollywood blockbusters. I even liked a Michael Keaton vehicle called White Noise because it made me scream. I do have to admit I initially saw it because I thought it had something to do with the Don DeLillo book of the same name but, once I found out that dead people could talk to me through electronic static, I was in anyway.

We have worked with After Dark in the past and plan to work with them in the future. Last year's contest for Miss Horrorfest had a ton of SuicideGirl contestants and they all seemed to enjoy the experience. While it might not be for everyone and certainly no girl will be forced to participate, I don't really think that there is anything wrong with a win a date to a party contest. I appreciate Wil's stance and think each girl should decide for herself if she wants to be involved.
-Missy

 

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_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUN 26, 2007 07:26 PM

Morgan said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

KUNGFOO said:

Drago said:
...The question that I should have asked was, why is SuicideGirls choosing to put his opinion of their movie promotion in the newsfeed of the site, when they could just as easily reject it. The answer is obviously so that Missy could add her counter-point and so they could stir up some discussion and controversy, and promote the movie and the party even more.

I hadn't heard of this promotion before Wil said that he didn't like it, and now I have. Probably a lot of you guys hadn't heard of it and now you have, so their plan worked.



I don't know if I'd take your opinion on marketing and this site since you referred to SuicideGirls as, not only as a single person, but a guy at that.

You know, not everything has to have an angle.



Not that I agree wtih Drago in that case, but I am pretty sure that highlighted bit is meant to mean "why is SuicideGirls choosing to put his (as in Wheaton's) opinion". He's not refererring to the site as a him, he's referring to the writer of this article as a him.



No, I did catch what he intended to say there. But this "let's make a controversy-marketing angle" idea he's got is a stupid and somewhat wild accusation to make, especially with SG.com's history of being very transparent with their business practices.

I just took a pot-shot at his grammar while disputing this idea.

Drago

Drago

Philadelphia, PA
January 2004

JUN 26, 2007 07:29 PM

Morgan said:
A lot of people would have heard about it anyway, especially people that actually read the boards. I'm sure if any girls do girl they'll be writing about it in their journals, and apparently footage of the dates is meant to be available to be viewed on the internet. This hardly would have faded into utter obsurity without Wheaton's article.



I didn't know that. I don't usually read the boards anymore, I got tired of all the name-calling.

tech29

tech29

I'm lost
July 2004

JUN 26, 2007 07:30 PM

My post was more of a tounge and cheek dig at the sensationlism of most news wire posts on here and half the guys on here burning their bra's in an hysterical defence, get over it, we all are exploited to different dregree's in different ways in our lives. I personally believe women can be exploited more because
A) They choose to be in said statement of your built to be a hooker but most girls arent THE SAME AS MEN ... Some women choose to be sexually used, hell shit in my country Prostitution is LEGAL in every state.
B) Their own agenda be it attention or personal gratification they recieve in the case of going to a movie premier have dozens of guys drooling over you maybe humilating you or you them in return but being paid, the guys probably wont be.
In ending cryng about women who are exploited more because they choose to be is kinda stupid dont ya think.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

JUN 26, 2007 07:32 PM

This Solomon guy just sounds like some greasy asshole who really does not get SG at all. That is to say, if there is really anything left to get. Not that I'm calling sinking ship or anything, but can you really attribute any kind of idealism to SG anymore?



Oh, fuck it:

Dot

Dot

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUN 26, 2007 07:35 PM

thrash242 said:
SG is porn. Get over it.



+1

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

JUN 26, 2007 07:38 PM

There are a couple of problems with this- on both sides of the debate....
One is that the same people who are complaining the loudest about this movie are also the same people who would have SG off the internet in ten seconds or less, if they had the chance...
Second is that is it risky having SG even associated with this?...well...yes- but from what I am seen no one on this site is exactly against taking a risk or being out there...and I don't think that it will really draw more attention, in a negative, or positive, way to the site/group, than already is out there..
It really is a first amendment issue- not that the government is involved..for once...? I may or may not agree with it- but everyone should have the right to say what they want and do what they want...as long as it doesn't libel anyone or hurt anyone...it is a movie after all-another from of art...

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUN 26, 2007 07:41 PM

thrash242 said:
SG is porn. Get over it.



How does this have anything to do with this article? Yeah, SG is porn. That doesn't mean we all want to be associated with a shitty movie. really, how does the fact that SG is porn dispute anything in this article?

Liberty

Liberty

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUN 26, 2007 07:44 PM

VnlaThndr775 said:
This torture porn shit is played out. puke Bring back the gory-axe-murderer-killing-fornicating-teenage-couples genre!




Hell yeah!

WhiteAndNerdy

WhiteAndNerdy

USA
December 2006

JUN 26, 2007 07:50 PM

The movie and the promotion both sound rather shitty. I'll be spending my money elsewhere.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUN 26, 2007 07:52 PM

Drago said:
You are right that not everything has an angle, but in my opinion most things that are involved in marketing and promotion have angles.



That seems to be true, but not in this case.

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUN 26, 2007 08:32 PM

I can handle a lot of fucked up movies, but....ugh. puke frown I would rather promote something with a bit of taste.
And maybe zombies.

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

JUN 26, 2007 08:43 PM

SG might be empowering if there were any sense of community left here. In my opinion that died somewhere in 2005.

What was once a smaller community of very active members has become simply a site driven entirely by a struggle to maintain profits where unenthusiastic and mostly anonymous members go to look at naked pictures of pretty girls whose sets gain them nothing more than 1000 fucking "I Loved It"s.

There is no empowerment here, only a chance to have people see you naked. The sets with more interesting themes are rejected. The girls that don't meet what has become very close to mainstream standard of beauty are rejected. The suggestion that SG's time has come and past is rejected.

Stick a fork in it.

RyleeStrange

RyleeStrange

Los Angeles, CA
February 2007

JUN 26, 2007 08:50 PM

WilWheaton said:
It's totally cool that Missy counterpointed me, and of course everyone is entitled to make their own decisions about this, especially the Suicide Girls.

My counter-counterpoint: The point isn't that the SGs are in danger or anything like that, which would be silly. The point is that this film glorifies violence against women and the producer's remarks about women in general -- and the SGs in particular -- feel very misogynistic to me.

Suicide Girls is about empowering women, and I don't see how participating in the promotion of a film that glorifies and glamorizes and celebrates violence against women is consistent with that.

Regardless, I appreciate Missy and Sean giving me an opportunity to express my view on this.



i'm not sure how this movie would "glorify" abuse to women...it's not saying "go abuse women". it's just a plot based around a woman who is abused and tortured...

are you going to say the same of "Cannibal Holocaust" cause there's a graphic rape scene?

or Saw II because there's a woman caught in there with the men?

Or maybe A Clockwork Orange, a movie that, while it talks about humanity and right versus wrong, contains TWO violent gang-rape scenes...

If you go to IMDB you will see that in Captivity, there are two main characters: a woman AND A MAN. so why aren't you complaining about the glorification of abuse towards men? Or is that too misogynistic, too?

I have no problem believing that this guy may be attempting to exploit the models on SG--especially by not checking with the site first and making it look like the girls are hookers for hire. But i really think you're all overreacting a bit....no...a LOT

Dot

Dot

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUN 26, 2007 08:50 PM

Morgan said:

thrash242 said:
SG is porn. Get over it.



How does this have anything to do with this article? Yeah, SG is porn. That doesn't mean we all want to be associated with a shitty movie. really, how does the fact that SG is porn dispute anything in this article?



i think he is referring to this line by the author of the article:
When did artistic nudity become known as pornography? Did I miss a memo?

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

JUN 26, 2007 08:51 PM

MisterGraves said:
SG might be empowering if there were any sense of community left here. In my opinion that died somewhere in 2005.

What was once a smaller community of very active members has become simply a site driven entirely by a struggle to maintain profits where unenthusiastic and mostly anonymous members go to look at naked pictures of pretty girls whose sets gain them nothing more than 1000 fucking "I Loved It"s.

There is no empowerment here, only a chance to have people see you naked. The sets with more interesting themes are rejected. The girls that don't meet what has become very close to mainstream standard of beauty are rejected. The suggestion that SG's time has come and past is rejected.

Stick a fork in it.



Yeah, it's horrible how "I loved it!" became such a joke, and I can't believe that's still active.

I would really like SG to be something else, but as far as I'm aware, this is the closest thing I can get to what I'm looking for. I rarely look at the naked girls anymore, but I'm so entrenched, and I don't know if I'd be able to find forums anywhere else that are as active and interested in so many of the same things I am. Sure there are literally hundreds of assholes and morons that I would rather not see post, ever, but there's so much to talk about, and a good enough number of like-minded people to talk about it with. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.

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