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  • MONDAY JUNE 4 2007 11:00 AM

When the Internet Sucks



During my morning blog rounds today, I ran across this post on one of my favorite take-no-prisoners feminist blogs, about a young pole vaulter (a California Interscholastic Federation champ, with a 13'7" career best vault and five national records--damn!) who became an internet celebrity when a photo of her was posted (without permission from her or the photographer, by the way) on a sports blog along with the following comments:

Hubba hubba and other grunting sounds.

. . . as best as I can tell from my rudimentary Internet sleuthing, Allison turned 18 less than two months ago, and she's still a senior at Newport Harbor, which last time I checked -- and I check often -- is a high school. Writing these kinds of posts are precisely why I keep getting mysterious, threatening voicemails from someone that sounds like Chris Hansen. "I'll get you, Ufford!" "You disgust me, sicko!" "Seriously, put some pants on." Et cetera and so on.

Oh, and there's also this: Miss Stokke is one of the best young pole vaulters in the country. She set the U.S. record for a freshman girl at 12'8", and her present personal best is a couple inches off the best high school girls mark. So, that's why I'm honoring her with a post. Because she's an exceptional athlete. Yes.

. . . she takes pole vaulting so seriously that she's unable to detect sarcasm. Which is too bad, because missing sarcastic remarks ends our steamy, illicit romance before it's even begun. That, and the age difference. And the restraining order.


The sports blogger has since posted an apology--of sorts--and a request that his readers "treat (the pole vaulter*) with respect." But by his own admission, his tendency to virtually leer at women athletes is kinda gross.

The pole vaulter and her family certainly think so: realizing that her pics had gone around the world and that there were "unofficial fan sites" about how "hot" she is and the like, they decided not to just take it lying down, but to try to get the pics and comments off the internet. Obviously a futile goal, but they've had some success: the unofficial fan site is down, with an apology to the pole vaulter "for having contributed to the unwanted attention"--a classy move. And, with the help of the WaPo article linked above, her story's started a bit of internet self-examination about an obvious problem: the ability of online publicity to make public figures of private people, often in degrading, embarrassing, or even threatening ways.

According to the WaPo, the pole vaulter had been getting tons of phone calls and comments on her MySpace page; gets started at when she goes out; tries not to leave the house alone; and her dad tries to keep on top of "potential stalkers" on the internet. All of which are, alas, real problems, as Kathy Sierra, among others (including yours truly) can testify.

For a lot of people, the upshot of this kind of thing is "eh, what can you do: assholes exist." Which is true. But for people who get caught in the asshole vortex, that's not a particularly helpful response. As the pole vaulter says remarkably clearly,

Even if none of it is illegal, it just all feels really demeaning.


This is the thing. Promising athletes, tech and academic bloggers, and fat kids caught on video, really shouldn't have to have their names and images dragged through the mud. And we really shouldn't shrug when it happens, any more than we should shrug when people are targeted by stalkers in "real," non-internet life. There may be little one can do about it legally (although I really do think that cases like the pole vaulting thing should be covered somehow under internet stalking laws), but surely there are things we can do about it morally, as members of a human community.

The bottom line for civil society really isn't what you can get away with under the law. On the internet, in particular, there's a fiercely independent streak that tends to boil things down to arguments that one's freedom to say whatever the hell one wants is the most important moral value. But y'know, we might occasionally do a little cost/benefit analysis: is a sports blogger's right to talk about how hawt a pole vaulter is *really* more important than her right not to be harassed? Is the hilarity of passing around YouTube videos of fat little kids really worth what it must feel like to be a fat little kid with the entire internet pointing at you and laughing? Are we really incapable of understanding the difference between laughing with someone and laughing at them?

And hey, when we make mistakes and it turns out someone we think is in on the joke doesn't find it funny, the least we could do is offer a proper apology and, if necessary, pull the links.

Bitch_PhD has certainly been guilty of using the internet to say bitchy things she'd never say to someone's face, but this story has made her think that she should try to be better about this.

 

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emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUN 06, 2007 08:23 PM

chainlink said:
YEAH !!!

Love it!

mQx

mqx

Seattle, WA
January 2003

JUN 06, 2007 09:01 PM

apesamongus said:
sexiness. I'll guarantee you that more people saw and laughed at the fat lightsaber kid than will ever see this girl.



I know I wouldn't have heard of her except for this site and the links provided.

I'll be honest, I'm not even sure why it's of note. Maybe if it was 1980 so she could be the first person ever to have something she didn't like posted about her on the internet.

Besides, I'd much rather leer at the Women's world series of softball.

freckle

freckle

Seattle, WA
January 2003

JUN 06, 2007 09:37 PM

Bitch_PhD said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

Bitch_PhD said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

Bitch_PhD said:

TheFuckOffKid said:
Unasked-for opinions aren't going to stop happening.



That doesn't excuse them, though.



Including yours?



Absolutely. If and when I've personally offended someone, I have and will, I hope, apologize.



Seriously, what TedKoppel just said. You've offended many people at this site alone, for better or worse, and your own belief in your right to do so is enshrined in the very name you've chosen as your internet moniker.

I mean, seriously, at this point I'm just not believing what you're saying.



There's a difference between people taking offense, and targeting a specific individual with offensive remarks. I defy you to find something I've said that's done the latter where I wasn't responding in kind.



how about Stuart E. Anderson of Great Falls, Montana: Asshole?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

JUN 06, 2007 10:15 PM

Bitch_PhD said:
There's a difference between people taking offense, and targeting a specific individual with offensive remarks. I defy you to find something I've said that's done the latter where I wasn't responding in kind.



freckle's already replied to your challenge.

I'm more interested in your claim that an individual was specifically and intentionally targetted with offensive remarks.

While that may be your subjective interpretation of what went down, I don't think your interpretation could be established as the only or even most valid interpretation.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

JUN 06, 2007 10:18 PM

freckle said:

Bitch_PhD said:

TheFuckOffKid said:
Seriously, what TedKoppel just said. You've offended many people at this site alone, for better or worse, and your own belief in your right to do so is enshrined in the very name you've chosen as your internet moniker.

I mean, seriously, at this point I'm just not believing what you're saying.



There's a difference between people taking offense, and targeting a specific individual with offensive remarks. I defy you to find something I've said that's done the latter where I wasn't responding in kind.



how about Stuart E. Anderson of Great Falls, Montana: Asshole?



froggin

froggin

USA
September 2006

JUN 07, 2007 03:32 AM

I found this story and comments interesting and thought provoking, and that should be the point of an article such as this. What I don't understand is why these turn into personal attacks for people who just are voicing their opinion.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

JUN 07, 2007 05:50 AM

froggin said:
I found this story and comments interesting and thought provoking, and that should be the point of an article such as this. What I don't understand is why these turn into personal attacks for people who just are voicing their opinion.



duh! Obviously because unsolicited opinions are frightening harrasment akin to stalking and rape. It's disgusting and sophmorish.

froggin

froggin

USA
September 2006

JUN 07, 2007 06:10 AM

i thought more about this on my run today- Again, I am not sure if the objectionable foundation of the story is that it she is young (although 18), an athlete stereocast as just a beautiful girl, or that a person's image can be so quickly spread without one's permission. As a photographer I have had people express concern how an image of them might be used which inhibits some people's willingness to be photographed and that is frustrating because the concern is so high good shooting opportunities are missed. Not that this is the equivilant situation but, the other day I was at a race- with my shirt off and wearing short tri shorts.. there was an attractive lady with a camera shooting pictures of her husband and their child. When he went to warm up. She stopped, pointed the camera at me and took several shots. She smiled and then moved on. Should I be offended, concerned or flattered? Frankly, i was flattered. But that is me.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

JUN 07, 2007 06:23 AM

mQx said:

apesamongus said:
sexiness. I'll guarantee you that more people saw and laughed at the fat lightsaber kid than will ever see this girl.



I know I wouldn't have heard of her except for this site and the links provided.

I'll be honest, I'm not even sure why it's of note. Maybe if it was 1980 so she could be the first person ever to have something she didn't like posted about her on the internet.


You see, she's female. And has tits. And BitchPHD is a one-trick pony who has to stretch really hard to be able to write the same damned article every fucking time.

Mankarlen

Mankarlen

Columbia City, OR
June 2006

JUN 10, 2007 06:31 AM

Ok, we all have to admit that at one time or another we have done or said something boneheaded. What definds who we are is wether we have the heart to appoligize and attempt to correct our mistakes. To repair or minimize the damage when to mistake has been made and to admit ones mistakes.
I also can't help to wonder if this is not a time when the media helped in the spread of the story. I would not have been aware of this issue had I not found it here.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

JUN 10, 2007 04:56 PM


hunh...i accidentally posted a comment.

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