I bet the DA is a little scared to go ahead with this because of the distrust left in the air following the Duke case.

Ah Justice!

You might want to get a grasp on the point before you start calling people smartasses.

The point being, how many drinks counts as drunk? If the law is not simply "you've had a drink so you can't consent" then there's a grey area. Your interpretation of drunk and mine will be different. It's easy to prove she'd consumed alcohol, it's near impossible to prove she had consumed so much alcohol that at the time sex was initiated - a point at which none of the people that got involved to stop it were present - she was unable to give informed consent. She could have started fucking and then downed a quart of vodka, you just don't know, and you just can't prove it if someone claims that's what happened.

So go talk to your lawyer family, who will most likely be in possession of no more facts on the case than you or I, and certainly won't be in possession of more facts than the DA that had to decide whether or not to go ahead with this case, and see if they can tell you exactly why it's not going ahead. Good luck. If they tell you anything other than, well, this shit is tough to prove and they don't waste their time with things they don't think they have a hope of getting a conviction on, I'd love to hear it.

I have no excuses for the rapists but I wonder about the 13 year old boys in this case and the pressures they feel to "get laid and impress their buddies." I also question influences such as porn or gang rape porn videos. Not that any of this shit makes them do it and they should be punished but this world has all kinds of bad examples that screw up impressionable minds.

My fantasy life would be to drop out of society, become a vigilante, and kill fuckers like this. No charge!

Your impression is wrong, as far as I'm aware. I know it has previously been ruled that if you can't remember if you gave consent or not because you were so drunk, then you can't claim rape.
Obviously if you say stop and they don't it's rape, but what if you make it explicitly clear you want to have sex with someone and then continue to drink, and never say stop? What if you have sex once, drink, and then have sex again? Was the second sexual act rape?
The grey areas are huge, and that's why convictions for rape have gone through the floor in the last 20 years.

You would stitch the bastards up afterwards? Let them bleed out or stitch themselves up.

SkaRambo Bitch PhD did link to the case you discussed. The link leads to a write-up on the sentencing of three of the rapists - not enough time given imho.

Fuck I really hate people

that is totally horrible... and I dunno but at that age I highly doubt that one could "consent" to such a thing. Heck, even older I doubt someone would want such a thing to happen to themselves.

And I dunno how long the trial might take but I'd think something like this should be short and lead to rapid convictions... seriously, who wouldn't believe it was rape...

What a Fucking idiot that DA, no girl of thirteen or any tight minded woman of any age wants to be raped. it is the sick and twisted people who thinks this should be shown what it means to feel such things and the torment the victims that live through this.

Okay people. there are two stories here, quit mixin' 'em up.

1) The case in England with the "fat" girl and the 3 boys.

2) One in California with the drunk girl and numerous men.

One question I have, what is the age of consent where this took place? The girls in question was 17 according to the article, I was under the impression you had to be 18 to consent. So rape or not, wouldn't they be brought up on statutory rape charges?

That may be so, but I do believe this particular circumstance is a pretty clear representation of non-consentual sex.

But you bring up a good point, which is that there is a grey area, as anyone who's had sex, or done anything else, while intoxicated may attest to.

And to everyone who says "let's cut the fuckers ball off!" I do empathize with you, surely. But, let's skip past that part. So the kids are in jail, or balless, or whatever. This means they cannot hurt any other girls. Good. But now what? Do we just fill up our prisons with every fucked-up college boy who is encouraged, nay, pressured by his peers so often to "get laid" that he doesn't care if the girl is conscious?

What we need is a radical change to the way sex is viewed in our culture, especially at the younger ages, not just a witch-hunt for every boy who doesn't get what he is doing is incredibly morally rephrensible.

Sorry for this rant if it comes off as obvious, or self-indulgent...it's just something I was thinking.

people are pretty fucked up in this world. Some guys should think with their heads, not their dicks all the time

This is unbelievable and beyond disgusting. I'm just glad that there are girls sticking up for her.