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Maybe She Wanted to be Raped

Tags: rape, consent



You may or may not have heard the story about the UK barrister who argued that a 13-year-old girl was "glad of the attention" when she was gang-raped by three boys -- because, after all, she was fat.

Well, now we've got a California DA who refuses to prosecute a gang rape, apparently because

it would be difficult to prove the high school student was too drunk to consent.


Now, admittedly witness testimony can be challenged. But does this sound like a hard-to-prove case?

"We heard and saw a girl tapping on this door in the kitchen saying 'There is a girl in there with eight guys," explains Chief Elk.

They say they tried to get into the room, but were confronted by a baseball player.

"[He said] 'Mind your own business; she wants to be in here' and slams the door," says Grolle.

What they saw through a crack in the door horrified them.

"When I looked in, I saw about ten pairs of legs surrounding a girl, lying on the mattress on the floor and a guy on top of her with his pants down and his hips thrusting on top of her," recall Chief Elk. "And when I saw that I knew immediately something wasn't right. It just didn't look right."

"I saw that this young girl did not want to be in there, and that's when we just went 'We're getting this girl out of there,'" says Grolle.

April and Lauren -- along with a third soccer player named Lauren Breayans -- broke down the door and were shocked with what they found.

"This poor girl was not moving. She had vomit dribbling down her face. We had to scoop vomit out of her mouth [and] lift her up. Her pants were completely off her body," says Chief Elk. "She had her one shoe one, her jeans were wrapped around one of her ankles and her underwear was left around her ankles. To the left of the bed there was some condom thrown on the ground."

"When they lifted her head up, her eyes moved and she said 'I'm sorry,'" says Grolle. "One of the guys who was in the room said 'This is her fault. She got drunk and she did this to herself.'"


Forensic tests determined that the vomit wasn't hers. Bet she consented to that too.

The 17-year-old girl Monday gave Grolle and Chief Elk Saint Christopher Medals, which they were wearing Tuesday night.

"We were basically her protectors that night and she gave these to us to represent that -- although there is no way to compare what happened that night -- she is grateful that we are her voice and speaking for her about what we saw that night," says Chief Elk.


The victim isn't capable of testifying, on her own behalf, that she didn't consent to being gang-raped and vomited on?

I'm not a lawyer. And I accept -- celebrate, even -- that DAs and judges and juries have to operate within the boundaries of reasonable doubt. But in what fucking universe is it "reasonable" to believe that a young woman consents to being raped with a pool cue or vomited on? That a 13-year-old would agree to fuck three guys because, you know, she's fat and girls nowadays dress slutty?

Anyone who thinks that shit is reasonable is a suck fuck and should be locked up themselves, as a preventative measure.

In any discussion of a case like this, some asshole will argue that hey, some chicks are kinky. And since we also know that kinky chicks are lying sluts, it's totally reasonable to believe that a girl would not only consent to this crap, but then file a false rape report afterwards.

The motives of guys who would fuck a woman in such a state that she'd "consent" to such a thing, on the other hand, never seems to come up.

Bitch_PhD knows some guys and girls who are into pretty kinky shit--and for the record, people like that believe more strongly in the importance of explicit consent than the general population. As they damn well should.

 

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GBay

GBay

Stockton, CA
March 2007

JUN 08, 2007 09:11 PM

Sigh.....this is why I wish I could be at EVERY highschool/college type party.......I play Mama very well. In fact.....I think that's why I was even invitied to parties in college in the first place.

Every Party needs a Party Mama......so shit like this wouldn't happened. That poor girl would have been sleeping it off in a safe, quiet, gaurded room, or hauled off by her parents after they were called.

Kids, when your at a party, don't just worry abou7t having a DD, worry about having a PM.

gnolnad

gnolnad

Japan
January 2007

JUN 08, 2007 11:58 PM

This is some crazy shit!!! I would not let it happen in my area if I knew anything at all about it!! mad

therisen

therisen

United Kingdom
June 2007

JUN 09, 2007 04:29 AM

?

There's some sick bastards about puke

trickynicki

trickynicki

Columbus, OH
January 2007

JUN 09, 2007 11:20 AM

BalefulWerewolf said:
That's fucked. It'd be pretty fuckin sweet if castration could be worked into criminal punishment for rape trials.



I've always agreed. Ppl argue that the death penalty is ok for some murders... that's like an eye for an eye thing, so why not castration for rape? I wish that would go on the ballot someday, I'd be there waiting for the polls to open.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUN 09, 2007 11:37 AM

trickynicki said:

BalefulWerewolf said:
That's fucked. It'd be pretty fuckin sweet if castration could be worked into criminal punishment for rape trials.



I've always agreed. Ppl argue that the death penalty is ok for some murders... that's like an eye for an eye thing, so why not castration for rape? I wish that would go on the ballot someday, I'd be there waiting for the polls to open.



Castration wouldn't stop someone from sexually assaulting people.

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

JUN 09, 2007 12:13 PM

Morgan said:

trickynicki said:

BalefulWerewolf said:
That's fucked. It'd be pretty fuckin sweet if castration could be worked into criminal punishment for rape trials.



I've always agreed. Ppl argue that the death penalty is ok for some murders... that's like an eye for an eye thing, so why not castration for rape? I wish that would go on the ballot someday, I'd be there waiting for the polls to open.



Castration wouldn't stop someone from sexually assaulting people.



Especially not if they were as good looking as me.

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

JUN 09, 2007 12:14 PM

Oh, oops, my bad. I thought that said sexily assaulting.

I only hit guys though. Well, sometimes kids. No women though.

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

JUN 09, 2007 03:37 PM

GBaby said:
Sigh.....this is why I wish I could be at EVERY highschool/college type party.......I play Mama very well. In fact.....I think that's why I was even invitied to parties in college in the first place.

Every Party needs a Party Mama......so shit like this wouldn't happened. That poor girl would have been sleeping it off in a safe, quiet, gaurded room, or hauled off by her parents after they were called.

Kids, when your at a party, don't just worry abou7t having a DD, worry about having a PM.



Agreed. And this is why *everyone*, girls and boys both, should be willing to be "bad sports" if/when they see something suspicious going on.

Glitch

Glitch

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JUN 09, 2007 07:34 PM

*cringes* this makes me feel very sad & angry....

leningradcowboy

leningradcowboy

I'm lost
February 2007

JUN 09, 2007 11:39 PM

Morgan said:

trickynicki said:

BalefulWerewolf said:
That's fucked. It'd be pretty fuckin sweet if castration could be worked into criminal punishment for rape trials.



I've always agreed. Ppl argue that the death penalty is ok for some murders... that's like an eye for an eye thing, so why not castration for rape? I wish that would go on the ballot someday, I'd be there waiting for the polls to open.



Castration wouldn't stop someone from sexually assaulting people.



Verdad.

Mankarlen

Mankarlen

Columbia City, OR
June 2006

JUN 10, 2007 06:06 AM

Personally I don't think castration is enough

AkiraLi

AkiraLi

Norristown, PA
March 2003

JUN 10, 2007 07:31 AM

I could've lived a very happy life without having read that description of the events in the initial post. Humanity disgusts me sometimes.

Arly

Arly

HOPEFUL

United Kingdom

JUN 17, 2007 04:41 PM

Degrading, sickening, and brings back too many memories of sick inustice. I truely hope those lads get their punishment, too often that they walk free.

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