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Stoners are Psychotic

TUESDAY MAY 1 2007 10:00 AM

Submitted by Subrosa. Edited By erin_broadley.

TAGS: Marijuana, legalization, schizophrenia, hippies



No, no, it’s true. Marijuana users are not just smelly, boring and often annoyingly self-righteous about their drug of choice, but they also run the risk of inflicting psychotic damage upon themselves. Or so says a new “scientific study.”

Psh. Whatever, man. Quit harshing our mellow.

The results, to be presented at an international mental health conference in London on Tuesday and Wednesday, provides physical evidence of the drug's damaging influence on the human brain.

"We've long suspected that cannabis is linked to psychoses, but we have never before had scans to show how the mechanism works," said Dr. Philip McGuire, a professor of psychiatry at King's College, London.

In analyzing MRI scans of the study's subjects, McGuire and his colleagues found that THC interfered with activity in the inferior frontal cortex, a region of the brain associated with paranoia.

"THC is switching off that regulator," McGuire said, effectively unleashing the paranoia usually kept under control by the frontal cortex.


Well that’s just like… your opinion, man.

Actually, the long and the short of the above study is that smoking pot makes you paranoid and experience hallucinations. Not exactly earth-shattering news, but it’s worth mentioning if only because this study shows actual physical reasons for those effects. The other study that was presented at the above international mental health conference might be a bit of a bigger bummer.

Doctors at Yale University in the U.S. tested the impact of THC on 150 healthy volunteers and 13 people with stable schizophrenia. Nearly half of the healthy subjects experienced psychotic symptoms when given the drug.

While the doctors expected to see marijuana improve the conditions of their schizophrenic subjects — since their patients reported that the drug calmed them — they found that the reverse was true.

"I was surprised by the results," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University's School of Medicine. "In practice, we found that cannabis is very bad for people with schizophrenia," he said.

While D'Souza had intended to study marijuana's impact on schizophrenics in more patients, the study was stopped prematurely because the impact was so pronounced that it would have been unethical to test it on more people with schizophrenia.


Yeah, so that’s bad. It’s especially bad in that this isn’t the only study to link pot and schizophrenia. And while the results of this study may have been somewhat surprising to some, they raised questions for others.

"One of the great puzzles is why people with schizophrenia keep taking the stuff when it makes the paranoia worse," said Dr. Robin Murray, a professor of psychiatry at King's College.


Uhh, because it’s easier than getting a job, maybe?

All kidding aside, according to the National Institute of Mental Health schizophrenia effects as much as 1.1% of the American adult population. While that may not seem like a large slice of people, it’s enough to provide further ammunition for anti-legalization forces.

Legalization of marijuana is certainly a reasonable (and economically efficient) policy to pursue. But being reasonable and economically efficient isn’t going to help the decriminalization movement if advocates refuse to acknowledge that there is evidence that pot is not some kind of cure-all miracle drug. The only way legalization is ever going to happen in this country is if we have an honest, informed conversation of the positive and negative effects of smoking weed. Chalk these studies as two in the negative column.

While Subrosa thinks it’s very nice that you’d like to “blaze” with him, he’ll stick to his sweet, life-giving alcohol. Thanks anyway, hippie.

 

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Margot_Dent

Margot_Dent

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

MAY 01, 2007 10:05 AM

Bummer. That's a bummer, man.

aki1

aki1

Baltimore, MD
September 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:06 AM

you know what
i think that is BS
my husband is bipolar
did the meds
and they really fucked alot of other shit up
if he gets to smoke his herb the man is fine and deals with life just fine

Margot_Dent

Margot_Dent

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

MAY 01, 2007 10:07 AM

neo said:
you know what
i think that is BS
my husband is bipolar
did the meds
and they really fucked alot of other shit up
if he gets to smoke his herb the man is fine and deals with life just fine



yeah, obviously those doctors and scientists have no idea what they're talking about!

LuLu

LuLu

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAY 01, 2007 10:08 AM

I'll take my chances. whatever

Rahodeb

Rahodeb

Los Angeles, CA
March 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:08 AM

Duuuuuuude. It's a conspiracy. Go Ask Allison. Duh.

Nice Clockwork Orange still.

SmellsLikeSciFi

SmellsLikeSciFi

Houston, TX
April 2004

MAY 01, 2007 10:10 AM

Subrosa said:
The only way legalization is ever going to happen in this country is if we have an honest, informed conversation of the positive and negative effects



Until some TRUE progressives get elected to office, governmental bodies like the ONDCP and ATF etc, will always put propaganda and lies ahead of ANY true, honest discourse about the positive and negative aspects of drug prohibition or legalisation.

DonnyKey

DonnyKey

Knoxville, TN
September 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:11 AM

Decriminalizing is good.

st_even

st_even

Milwaukee, WI
September 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:21 AM

Legal medication can also incite paranoia and psychosis. =/

ZenTrixter

ZenTrixter

Ethiopia
October 2002

MAY 01, 2007 10:27 AM

Unfortunately, this is one more example of piss-poor science. They say that they're testing "pot", but they're only testing THC. There are over 70 cannabinoids that work synergisticly in cannabis. THC is the primairy psychoactive component of cannabis, so it gets the most study. However, "a separate study has shown that one of these ingredients - cannabidiol (CBD) - has the potential to dampen down psychotic symptoms, and could form the basis of new treatments". Funny how this study gets third billing.

A third study, by the University of Cologne, compared the effect of CBD and a commonly used anti-psychotic medicine, Amisulpride, on 42 patients with a history of schizophrenia.

After four weeks both groups showed a reduction in psychotic symptoms, but the CBD group were less prone to side effects, such as muscle stiffness and weight gain.



No one serious about cannabis as medicine, herbally or otherwise, grows cannabis just for THC. If you do that, you're a simple stoner wanting to get high. Fine--whatever. Those people who truly understand cannabis are in it for more than just the high. They understand the complex interplay between cannabinoids, and how to taylor the plant growth to enhance some cannabinoids and/or minimize others.

Anyone with a highschool-level grasp of the scientific method understands just how flawed this research is. They say they're testing "pot". Bullshit. That's like saying they're testing the effects of eating a hamburger every day, but the study only provides you with the lettuce and the bun.

And by the way (and I say this in the most loving and compassionate way I can muster) a big patchouli-scented "fuck you" for the hippie comments. This kind of willfull ignorance is very quickly destrying the world. Sorry to harsh your snotty punk-assed mojo, but when it's time for the chemo, my hippie ass will still be here, helping you or a loved-one either a) get through the chemo without waisting to nothing, or b) die remotely peacefully and with some remnant of dignity...

egocarib

egocarib

Caledonia, IL
October 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:29 AM

what a load of b.s.

as usual.

The 1.1% schizophrenic figure is vastly inflated, mostly because the diagnostic statistical manual for mental illnesses is a joke. It takes practically nothing to fall into the category of a number of mental illnesses, and any of us could be diagnosed with a laundry list of them if a 'health professional' would care to try. The NIMH helps to spearhead this mass delusion.

For years the powers that be have been trying to scrape up the tiniest bit of evidence they can find to substantiate the legal status of marijuana, while simultaneously ignoring the effects of legal drugs, like alcohol and cigarettes, not to mention pharmacueticals which are a whole other sack of nails. st_even is correct, some of the things prescribed to people these days, especially schizophrenics and others who are percieved as having 'major' mental illnesses are quite disturbing.

and thank you for that, chimehouse

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 01, 2007 10:29 AM

neo said:
you know what
i think that is BS
my husband is bipolar
did the meds
and they really fucked alot of other shit up
if he gets to smoke his herb the man is fine and deals with life just fine



anecdotal evidence really isn't helpful to argue against a study conducted of hundreds of people.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 01, 2007 10:30 AM

CaptainToke said:
And by the way (and I say this in the most loving and compassionate way I can muster) a big patchouli-scented "fuck you" for the hippie comments. This kind of willfull ignorance is very quickly destrying the world. Sorry to harsh your snotty punk-assed mojo, but when it's time for the chemo, my hippie ass will still be here, helping you or a loved-one either a) get through the chemo without waisting to nothing, or b) die remotely peacefully and with some remnant of dignity...




Yeah, god forbid someone make a joke about hippies liking pot. TOO FAR, MAN!!


Markus001

Markus001

United Kingdom
November 2004

MAY 01, 2007 10:31 AM

The problem is that for all its positive uses as medicine, the people who mostly want it legalized are people who just want license to smoke pot all the time. It doesn't really make for a convincing argument. I can't say it seems to be a good idea to use it in the long term...

Johnny_Flapjacks

Johnny_Flapjacks

Williamsport, PA
September 2006

MAY 01, 2007 10:35 AM

dude..... wait....... what? are the cops really coming, or are you just fucking with me?


whoa..... not cool dude, NOT cool.

so wait.... is that a yes on the pretzels?

bedukay

bedukay

Endicott, NY
March 2003

MAY 01, 2007 10:35 AM

yourfashionwar said:
anecdotal evidence really isn't helpful to argue against a study conducted of hundreds of people.



Well that and schizophrenia %u2260 bipolar disorder.

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