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Virginia Tech Shooting



Thirty three people are dead today at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia after a lone gunman opened fire on students. Reuters is reporting that at least two dozen others have been injured.

Officials say this is the deadliest school shooting in US history.

According to CNN:

"Some victims were shot in a classroom," university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said.
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"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

The killings mark the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, surpassing attacks at Columbine High School in 1999 and at the University of Texas in 1966.

One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall -- the engineering science and mechanics building -- resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported.

The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a coed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.
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The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.

 

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hor

I'm lost
June 2005

APR 28, 2007 01:24 AM

Morrigan said:

DrStinkypants said:

AzraelStarFire said:
for the record the guy who did it has had mental issues going to the shrink since age 11. Virginia as i know from 19 years of experience does have alot of issues of their own, but what bothers me the most is why go after the intelligent?? there is so many stupid people in VA that deserve to be beaten senselessly for their stupidity.. why kill the ones who have aspirations and intelligence???



Totally. Maybe if he had thrown some blacks and Jews in there too you'd feel a little better about it.



The Nobel Prizes are awarded by the Nobel Foundation of Sweden to men and women who have rendered the greatest service to humankind. Between 1901 and 2006, more than 750 Nobel Prizes were handed out. Of these, at least 158 are Jews.

being such a small religion in the world they are grossly overrepresented in winning the nobel price, and that price aint catshit.




Eh??

Oohhhh, I think there is a misinterpretation here.


PervyOldGuy

PervyOldGuy

Columbus, OH
October 2006

APR 29, 2007 01:32 AM

edith said:

PervyOldGuy said:

edith said:

No. I don't "dig". Don't people sign up for or join the army?

This shooting thing has nothing to do with the war. George Bush going and saying a couple things has nothing to do with the war. Nothing at all.



Did you vote for LePen? seriously, I'll get back to you later....



um, excuse me? don't think so...nor do i get where you are coming from.
explain. there is a difference here, sorry charlie.


Ok, the remark about Le Pen was intended to be provocational. Your comments just seem to me to reflect a kind of obtuseness typical of a lot of right-wingers. But on checking your profile I see that you're "in France," not necessarily French. In any case, maybe the following will illuminate...

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Is there any connection between the kids being killed at VT and American soldiers being killed and maimed in Iraq? No, not as such. The former was a random act of violence perpetrated by an enraged and alienated psychopath; the latter is the result of deliberate policy, and yes, a consequence of having volunteered for potentially risky duty. So in that sense I concede you are correct.

But that is not the point. The connection that does exist has been supplied by Bush's very appearance at the memorial for the slain students, in just the sense that I have already described in my previous comments. To reiterate: in my analysis, Bush's appearance at VT was nothing more than cynical, calculated politics. He was there not out of any genuine concern for the grief of the bereaved, but for the opportunity to once again present himself before the national media as a paternalistic figurehead. He did NOT need to be there, and in fact his presence only added to the media spectacle created around what should have been a private affair. By contrast, while reportedly he has met off-camera with the families of dead soldiers and given all the appearance of sincerity he as a seasoned politician has learned to muster, he and his administration have done all they can to keep these deaths out of the public eye. And unlike the scene at VT, Bush does in fact bear a great deal of responsibility for these military deaths. He is the one who sent these men and women into harm's way. You emphasize that they were volunteers, and that is true enough. Let's lay aside for now any discussion of the socioeconomic factors leading to this "voluntary" duty, and to what extent the war dead "freely" chose military service. Even granted that these soldiers and marines signed on of their own free will, they did so putting their full confidence in their commander-in-chief, that they were at his disposal in defending their (and my) country from REAL threats. It is my opinion, and that of the majority of the American people, that Mr. Bush has violated that trust by sending them into an unnecessary and opportunistic war to be killed or wounded to no good purpose.


So, while Bush has no problem presenting himself as the Great Father amid the spectacle of mass murder, where he can utter scripted banalities and soften his public image, he has gone to great lengths to minimize or even conceal from public awareness his complicity in the tragic, needless deaths of 3000+ of America's sons and daughters. However much you may wish to deny it, there is a bitter irony in this. And it is exactly the inability of "the Many" to make this connection, the habit of compartmentalizing such events in order not to be disturbed by the meanings arising from their juxtaposition, that politicians like Bush rely upon for their continued support. Can you really not see this? Then, if you actually are French (with a great command of colloquial English, apparently), you probably would make a good follower of Le Pen. That's what I was trying to get at....

edith

edith

France
April 2006

APR 29, 2007 05:00 PM

no, i wouldn't make a "good follower" of le pen.

and i got really, really sick of living in america for quite a few reasons. not so interested in raising a family there at the moment. so i moved.


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