Is that in the US or worldwide?

Horrible number either way.

Unless your pregnant. Then it becomes (to paraphrase Joe Friday) "As legal as buying a hot dog at Dodger Stadium"

Or so it seems

Additional affirmative comment on link to Highly Informative Thread with sadly incorrect use of smilies due to meth use!

Jesus H. Christ.

How many fucking times are you gonna write this article?

This is interesting. Obviously most people are a bit taken aback by this commentary at first, but I don't really see any discussion of the logical points being made. Maybe they've been discussed in her other commentaries, but I don't really have the time to read them. The way I see it she's saying that it would be hypocritical to support reproductive rights in terms of abortion only to then turn around and judge people for other reproductive choices that they make. Maybe she's only trying to take the argument to an absurd but logical end. I couldn't say. However, reproductive rights are an issue that people tend to take a strong stance on and abortion has somehow become the moral line drawn in the sand. Anyone who refuses to toe that line, whichever side they may be on, gets attacked by both sides. Do I believe that women should use meth while they're pregnant? Absolutely not. I don't believe a woman should do anything at all which will harm her child. Personally, I believe abortion is a bit horrific and disgusting, but I also believe that it's every woman's personal choice. Who am I to morally grandstand about how anyone is supposed to treat something that is, essentially, a parasite inside their body. I have no right to.

I can't force others to conform to my moral values and I don't want anyone to force me to conform to theirs. I don't believe in harming any living (sentient) thing whatsoever. But should I run around trying to shove vegetarianism down everyone's throat? I don't think I should. I'll certainly talk about my views with anyone who'll listen and explain my reasons as best I can. If they disagree, then that's their right. If they see my point, then that's even better, but I generally prefer to mind my own business and have other people mind theirs.

If one way of living is so much better than another, then it will probably win out eventually.

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Because you can't get the fuck over yourself?

Seriously, move on. You're like a three year old pounding on the counter at the grocery store until you get a candy bar.

It's like a female FTR.

my bad, that was definitely a blanket statement that was in the wrong and completely indefensible. i'll amend it to "neither non-rape pregnancy nor drug use" happily.

altho i will also agree with comments made later that the % of pregnancies resulting from rape as opposed to the % resulting from consentual sex is probably pretty low. i'd wonder though, does the % deriving from rape enumerate pregnancies resulting from coerced sex stemming from draconian religious or social views...i'm betting it doesn't, else it'd be a lot higher

omgz.....not again. I am so tired of these articles.

I heard once that that was why meth production and use has gotten so prevalent in rural areas--those areas aren't on major drug traffic routes, not in big cities where other drugs are more easily available, and they are in the middle of fucking nowhere where there's more room to make meth with easily available ingredients and less of a population nearby to take note of what you're doing.

Going to college in Iowa was rather interesting. They've been taking steps for awhile now to restrict access to meth production materials since it's such a problem there, so not only did I get rather used to having to show ID and sign for my decongestants any time my allergies acted up, I also learned that powdered baby formula is used to cut meth, apparently, which was why all of the Similac was kept behind the counter at our local grocery store.

Awww, meth. Fun stuff.

At least a few of the ingredients needed in bulk are likely to be found on farms-- it's easy to steal huge quantities of anhydrous ammonia from large farms, and they're likely never going to notice it's gone.

So-- away from drug routes, more room to make the meth (fewer nosy neighbors to complain about the smell), and important ingredients are in unguarded tanks on the farm next door. Win/win/win all around!

Never knew this one. We've had strict limits on the sale of powdered formula here for ages, but the explanation we got was a combination of high theft due to a large black market (similar to diabetes supplies) and grey-market exports. (As an aside, it's at least subtly implied in this FDA report from 2005 that some proceeds from black-market baby formula sales supposedly went to Al Qaeda. )

We do not live in a society of unlimited rights. A society of unlimited personal rights is called anarchy. Instead, we live in a society where personal rights are balanced against responsibility to the community.

So, the slippery slope PhD proposes is a farce.

Doing meth? Balances out at the "harms society, so personal rights get limited" end of the equation.
Working or having sex? Balances out at the "doesn't harm society, personal rights are not limited" end.

Doing meth is far more harmful than working or having sex because of the price society has to pay for it. Society will likely have to pay for the child's extra health care expenses. And society may have to pay the entire cost for caring for the kid (since meth moms are unlikely to be fit parents).

That's why PhD's slippery slope argument = bogus.