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  • MONDAY FEBRUARY 26 2007 6:00 PM

Why Meth Users Matter



So, why am I so on about the rights of pregnant drug users? Simple. First, because it's fundamental that if we're going to say that people have rights, we have to include everyone. If I argue that women have the right (as they do) to make their own reproductive decisions, then I mean all women, not just the ones whose choices I approve of. If I only mean "women who make good decisions," then that's not a right: that's me granting permission. That way lies the proverbial slippery slope: if I get to condemn pregnant meth users, than some other asshole gets to condemn pregnant women who have the occasional drink or cigarette, and asshole number three gets to argue that pregnant women who work or have sex are putting their babies at risk and should be forbidden from doing so. Nope, not going down that road.

The second thing is that I believe in reality. Pregnancy is a basic reality: it happens. It happens even to women who are extremely careful about using birth control. It happens even to women who believe in abstinence. It's one of the fundamental things our bodies do, like cellular regeneration and growing hair and putting on weight if we're lucky enough to have plenty to eat. We are, in the end, living animals, and the primary definition of any living animal is that it reproduces itself. Getting away from moralizing about whether or not people "should" or "shouldn't" have kids and dealing with the simple fact that, well, we do is a fundamental step that we haven't, as a society, really taken yet.

Yeah, we can "choose" to try to avoid pregnancy. Yeah, thank god, we can still "choose" to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, at least assuming we have money and live somewhere where we have access to abortion services (or, barring that, that we know someone who knows how to induce a miscarriage). But really, if you think about it, we can't choose to become pregnant, or not to. Pregnancy is something our bodies do without our consciously deciding it: I can decide to walk to the grocery store or to drive, but I can't decide whether or when to ovulate--even if I'm taking drugs that will prevent or hasten it, how my body responds to those drugs isn't something I have control over.

Modern medicine is fucking awesome, and it's fucking awesome to be able to choose to seriously reduce the likelihood that we'll get pregnant unless we're good and ready, but let's not kid ourselves: the best laid plans of lab mice and women gang aft agley. All the more so if you're someone who--for whatever reason--is in a position where your ability to exercise what choices you do have is already seriously compromised.

If you want to moralize about it, fine, but you might as well moralize about the earth going around the sun. E pur si muove.

Bitch_PhD kinda digs Galileo, even though he's a dead white guy. And she feels damn lucky to have been born to a forward-thinking mom who told her about birth control when she was 12 or 13, and to have been able to use the car to go to Planned Parenthood when she was 17, and to have always been able to get birth control which always worked for her. Especially since she knows people who've gotten knocked up while on the pill--sometimes even with twins.

 

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theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:19 PM

Heracleitus said:

Morgan said:

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).



Not to agree or disagree with him or to diminish the problem of pregnancy from rape or rape in general for that matter, but if you assume that 1.5 billion women are of childbearing age (that's an educated guess) and the birth rate (2006) is 20.05 per 1000 (roughly 2%), then the number of those pregnancies resulting from rape would be about very close to one-tenth of one percent of all pregnancies in any given year.



YESSSSSS!

Greybeard

Greybeard

Los Angeles, CA
December 2006

FEB 26, 2007 07:21 PM

What's the point in granting a fetus full human rights, only to strip away most of those rights as soon as it's born?

Under the current U.S. scheme, children are the quasi-property of parent(s), who are free to use, abuse, oppress and deny them in any way they see "fit". The past 25 years have seen some significant advances against physical abuse, and sexual abuse has come out of its closet at last.

One of my friends caught his mother putting Rat Poison in the morning oatmeal. He ran away (at age 10), then after 2 days of being, cold, scared and alone, he turned himself into the Police, thinking they would help him and defend him against a murderous psychopath.

Instead, he was thrown into Juvenile Hall, and after a month of interrogations and hearings, returned to his so-called home.

We want to believe that we have progressed, but even now, in Los Angeles, we don't go more than 2 or 3 months without news of how the multi-layered child protection bureaucracy has failed to prevent the death of a child at the hands of a family member.

Chances are, in a city this size, for every death confirmed to be due to family abuse, there are 50 more that go unrecognized, and hundreds more at continual risk.

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:22 PM

spaceegg, while i pretty much agree with your premise, i just had to say how much it irritates me when someone uses 'your' instead of 'you're'. i have trouble concentrating on the rest of your point. don't take it personally, i'm a stickler for that sort of thing.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 26, 2007 07:27 PM

theconservative said:

Morgan said:

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).



ok, sounds like a legitimate source, except for the fact that it's 11 years old. but if the number is accurate today, that's 32,000 out of how many?



Oh, I wasn't saying that that's a large percentage, I just figured I'd post an answer.

burtlo

burtlo

Seattle, WA
May 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:32 PM

brhood said:
Once thing is for sure, Bitch_PhD... you can point out that pregnany is a thing that the body does naturally, and I agree, but where, in any situation is it natural for a woman to shoot up meth while pregnant.

bxx



I think the argument we face today is not a question of whether it's natural, but if a woman should be allowed complete reproductive rights even if she is a user of such a substance.

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:34 PM

burtlo said:

brhood said:
Once thing is for sure, Bitch_PhD... you can point out that pregnany is a thing that the body does naturally, and I agree, but where, in any situation is it natural for a woman to shoot up meth while pregnant.

bxx



I think the argument we face today is not a question of whether it's natural, but if a woman should be allowed complete reproductive rights even if she is a user of such a substance.



i say no. 'complete' being the objective word.

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:35 PM

Morgan said:

theconservative said:

Morgan said:

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).



ok, sounds like a legitimate source, except for the fact that it's 11 years old. but if the number is accurate today, that's 32,000 out of how many?



Oh, I wasn't saying that that's a large percentage, I just figured I'd post an answer.



and it was a good one, thanks.

StrongMad

StrongMad

Seattle, WA
July 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:41 PM

This is just fucking ridiculous. It's like she's a one-trick pony, and the trick is sticking her head up her ass. Someone at SG please take note and stop this -- you don't seriously intend for your newswire to become a fringe personal blog, do you? Let her beat this dead horse in her journal.

d_day

d_day

San Bernardino, CA
July 2002

FEB 26, 2007 07:42 PM

Bastard_ said:
What is your PhD in again?



Public highschool Diploma

brhood

brhood

Australia
April 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:42 PM

burtlo said:

brhood said:
Once thing is for sure, Bitch_PhD... you can point out that pregnany is a thing that the body does naturally, and I agree, but where, in any situation is it natural for a woman to shoot up meth while pregnant.

bxx



I think the argument we face today is not a question of whether it's natural, but if a woman should be allowed complete reproductive rights even if she is a user of such a substance.



And this is what, in a way, Bitch_PhD was trying to condemn... it is an absolute moral and ethical minefield to even try to contemplate how you would go about setting up legislation for this... where do you stop? Use meth, no baby or no job, no baby... or even no strong faith in God, no baby... you're asking for trouble..

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 26, 2007 07:44 PM

theconservative said:
and it was a good one, thanks.



But of course. I have this weird thing where whenever someone wonders about statistics, I have to look them up/figure them out.

DyeWhiteGirls

DyeWhiteGirls

Madison, WI
December 2003

FEB 26, 2007 07:45 PM

Folks, I've figured something out...she doesn't actually have an opinion on the subject, she just found a subject that will garner comments. SG staff probably told her to ride this pony until it receives less than x amount of posts. So, while I am unfortunately adding to the count of this vapid, selfish, crotch of a human being, I suggest that we just ignore her when we see this.

metalxsexkitten

metalxsexkitten

USA
June 2005

FEB 26, 2007 07:45 PM

what does that have to do with meth though? which happens to be the worst upper, maybe 2nd worse drug and THE most socially unacceptable of them all.. meth actually makes it incredibly hard for a woman to get prego even if she would want to.. and makes it so guys are deficient in that area too. its just great all around..sarcasm. it need to be stopped but blaming its users and attacking them will do nothing. when our govt stops the influx into our country then we will perhaps have a reprieve.. but i cant really forsee any of that.

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:48 PM

Khaos said:
what does that have to do with meth though? which happens to be the worst upper, maybe 2nd worse drug and THE most socially unacceptable of them all.. meth actually makes it incredibly hard for a woman to get prego even if she would want to.. and makes it so guys are deficient in that area too. its just great all around..sarcasm. it need to be stopped but blaming its users and attacking them will do nothing. when our govt stops the influx into our country then we will perhaps have a reprieve.. but i cant really forsee any of that.



wait...i thought meth was made here?

aleksa

aleksa

Tacoma, WA
April 2006

FEB 26, 2007 07:48 PM

Necrosis said:
This horse is way past dead - at this point, it's fucking skeletal.



It's dust. But still being beaten.

Morgan said:
The constant re-writing of basically the same article makes me feel like a teacher who has a student constantly submitting a new draft every damn day.



The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.

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