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  • MONDAY FEBRUARY 26 2007 6:00 PM

Why Meth Users Matter



So, why am I so on about the rights of pregnant drug users? Simple. First, because it's fundamental that if we're going to say that people have rights, we have to include everyone. If I argue that women have the right (as they do) to make their own reproductive decisions, then I mean all women, not just the ones whose choices I approve of. If I only mean "women who make good decisions," then that's not a right: that's me granting permission. That way lies the proverbial slippery slope: if I get to condemn pregnant meth users, than some other asshole gets to condemn pregnant women who have the occasional drink or cigarette, and asshole number three gets to argue that pregnant women who work or have sex are putting their babies at risk and should be forbidden from doing so. Nope, not going down that road.

The second thing is that I believe in reality. Pregnancy is a basic reality: it happens. It happens even to women who are extremely careful about using birth control. It happens even to women who believe in abstinence. It's one of the fundamental things our bodies do, like cellular regeneration and growing hair and putting on weight if we're lucky enough to have plenty to eat. We are, in the end, living animals, and the primary definition of any living animal is that it reproduces itself. Getting away from moralizing about whether or not people "should" or "shouldn't" have kids and dealing with the simple fact that, well, we do is a fundamental step that we haven't, as a society, really taken yet.

Yeah, we can "choose" to try to avoid pregnancy. Yeah, thank god, we can still "choose" to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, at least assuming we have money and live somewhere where we have access to abortion services (or, barring that, that we know someone who knows how to induce a miscarriage). But really, if you think about it, we can't choose to become pregnant, or not to. Pregnancy is something our bodies do without our consciously deciding it: I can decide to walk to the grocery store or to drive, but I can't decide whether or when to ovulate--even if I'm taking drugs that will prevent or hasten it, how my body responds to those drugs isn't something I have control over.

Modern medicine is fucking awesome, and it's fucking awesome to be able to choose to seriously reduce the likelihood that we'll get pregnant unless we're good and ready, but let's not kid ourselves: the best laid plans of lab mice and women gang aft agley. All the more so if you're someone who--for whatever reason--is in a position where your ability to exercise what choices you do have is already seriously compromised.

If you want to moralize about it, fine, but you might as well moralize about the earth going around the sun. E pur si muove.

Bitch_PhD kinda digs Galileo, even though he's a dead white guy. And she feels damn lucky to have been born to a forward-thinking mom who told her about birth control when she was 12 or 13, and to have been able to use the car to go to Planned Parenthood when she was 17, and to have always been able to get birth control which always worked for her. Especially since she knows people who've gotten knocked up while on the pill--sometimes even with twins.

 

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Wendy

Wendy

SUICIDEGIRL

Israel

FEB 26, 2007 06:45 PM

Let me give you some advice for next time. Do all of your research on your topic in advance. Put it all together, include all pertinent information, including citations, in one article. Submit that article to the newswire. Move on to your next topic.

_Chaos_

_Chaos_

El Paso, TX
February 2006

FEB 26, 2007 06:48 PM

DownNeck said:

seriously, what the fuck is your point? that women should be allowed to do meth while pregnant? that we should be more understanding of women who are pregnant drug users?

fuck that, and fuck them. neither pregnancy nor drug use just happens. BOTH are the result of conscious choices we make and i have zero sympathy for those unhappy with their choices.



+1

It's going ot happen whether we argue about it for a week or a year. Why is it so impossible to just agree to disagree?
It's not gonna change the fact that its still happening... sorry hun, but it's just not helping at all...

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 26, 2007 06:51 PM

Wendy said:
Let me give you some advice for next time. Do all of your research on your topic in advance. Put it all together, include all pertinent information, including citations, in one article. Submit that article to the newswire. Move on to your next topic.



+1. The constant re-writing of basically the same article makes me feel like a teacher who has a student constantly submitting a new draft every damn day.

furious

furious

I'm lost
March 2005

FEB 26, 2007 06:53 PM

Wow. You have a PhD in "Not using your brain". Try reading a logic book sometime, it might make your argument not suck.

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

FEB 26, 2007 06:53 PM

Morgan said:

Wendy said:
Let me give you some advice for next time. Do all of your research on your topic in advance. Put it all together, include all pertinent information, including citations, in one article. Submit that article to the newswire. Move on to your next topic.



+1. The constant re-writing of basically the same article makes me feel like a teacher who has a student constantly submitting a new draft every damn day.



Plus she's getting paid for it. That's what totally amazes me.

MaitreSinge

MaitreSinge

Silver Spring, MD
June 2004

FEB 26, 2007 06:54 PM

So, wait, you made an entire additional article just to argue with the comments posted on your previous one? That seems a touch... disproportionate.

Anyway, I think your second point contradicts your first point. If you want to talk about moral absolutism, that rights must apply to everyone--even those who abuse them--then you're going to have a tough time convincing me that you also "believe in reality." Part of reality is having to weigh the consequences of enacting one's moral certainties, and being prepared to compromise when the negatives outweigh the positives.

I'm not a physician, so I'm not prepared to evaluate the birth defect risks of meth, but a cursory look at the internet suggests that they definitely exist, however severe. You can argue for a person's right to do whatever they like to their own body, but assuming we're past the point of viable abortion, the fetus has been promoted to full human and should now have rights of its own. Absolutism and condescension do nothing to advance the debate of which should take precedence.

brhood

brhood

Australia
April 2004

FEB 26, 2007 06:55 PM

DownNeck said:

theconservative said:
this is seriously the dumbest thing i've ever read. i'm actually less intelligent for having read it. i even made the mistake of reading it twice, just to make sure it's not a satire, ala' A Modest Proposal.



+1

seriously, what the fuck is your point? that women should be allowed to do meth while pregnant? that we should be more understanding of women who are pregnant drug users?

fuck that, and fuck them. neither pregnancy nor drug use just happens. BOTH are the result of conscious choices we make and i have zero sympathy for those unhappy with their choices.



I agree with you here but pregnancy, if you are lucky, is a conscious choice.... the girl who gets pregnant from rape sure as fuck didn't choose to get pregnant!

But drug use is a conscious choice and these women who get pregnant while using and then continue to use have to be held accountable. But as the problem has so many roads coming off it, it is impossible to work out a solution. We could argue that the government is responsible because the woman's drug use stems from unemployment or blame their sexually-abusive father for their use ... it's a fucking minefield of pointing the finger...

Once thing is for sure, Bitch_PhD... you can point out that pregnany is a thing that the body does naturally, and I agree, but where, in any situation is it natural for a woman to shoot up meth while pregnant.

bxx

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:00 PM

brhood said:

DownNeck said:

theconservative said:
this is seriously the dumbest thing i've ever read. i'm actually less intelligent for having read it. i even made the mistake of reading it twice, just to make sure it's not a satire, ala' A Modest Proposal.



+1

seriously, what the fuck is your point? that women should be allowed to do meth while pregnant? that we should be more understanding of women who are pregnant drug users?

fuck that, and fuck them. neither pregnancy nor drug use just happens. BOTH are the result of conscious choices we make and i have zero sympathy for those unhappy with their choices.



I agree with you here but pregnancy, if you are lucky, is a conscious choice.... the girl who gets pregnant from rape sure as fuck didn't choose to get pregnant!

But drug use is a conscious choice and these women who get pregnant while using and then continue to use have to be held accountable. But as the problem has so many roads coming off it, it is impossible to work out a solution. We could argue that the government is responsible because the woman's drug use stems from unemployment or blame their sexually-abusive father for their use ... it's a fucking minefield of pointing the finger...

Once thing is for sure, Bitch_PhD... you can point out that pregnany is a thing that the body does naturally, and I agree, but where, in any situation is it natural for a woman to shoot up meth while pregnant.

bxx



what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent. meaning that to say a girl is lucky if a girl's pregnancy is a conscious choice isn't true. it would be extremely unlucky fo the opposite to happen. that's all i'm saying.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 26, 2007 07:01 PM

Bastard_ said:
Plus she's getting paid for it. That's what totally amazes me.



I just know that a month or two for now when I am trying really hard to find a job, that's going to piss me the hell off.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

FEB 26, 2007 07:05 PM

Bastard_ said:

Morgan said:

Wendy said:
Let me give you some advice for next time. Do all of your research on your topic in advance. Put it all together, include all pertinent information, including citations, in one article. Submit that article to the newswire. Move on to your next topic.



+1. The constant re-writing of basically the same article makes me feel like a teacher who has a student constantly submitting a new draft every damn day.



Plus she's getting paid for it. That's what totally amazes me.



No one ever did get back to me about that food critic column proposition, either. confused

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 26, 2007 07:05 PM

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).

theconservative

theconservative

Spring, TX
October 2004

FEB 26, 2007 07:13 PM

Morgan said:

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).



ok, sounds like a legitimate source, except for the fact that it's 11 years old. but if the number is accurate today, that's 32,000 out of how many?

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

FEB 26, 2007 07:13 PM

JenBat said:
What. The. Fuck?! Who keeps "OK"- ing these things?!?! puke


SG, apparently, has a moronic policy where people can be their own editors and approve their own stories. This leads to the newswire being an LJ and to poor grammar.

Heracleitus

Heracleitus

Arlington, VA
May 2005

FEB 26, 2007 07:15 PM

Morgan said:

theconservative said:
what's your educated guess on the percentage of pregnancies every year that are the result of rape? my guess is less than 1 tenth of 1 percent.



The CDC says over 32,000 pregnancies result from rape every year (Holmes et al. 1996).



Not to agree or disagree with him or to diminish the problem of pregnancy from rape or rape in general for that matter, but if you assume that 1.5 billion women are of childbearing age (that's an educated guess) and the birth rate (2006) is 20.05 per 1000 (roughly 2%), then the number of those pregnancies resulting from rape would be about very close to one-tenth of one percent of all pregnancies in any given year.

SpaceEgg

SpaceEgg

Rockford, IL
January 2006

FEB 26, 2007 07:17 PM

At least you where smart enough to buy a Doctorate online instead of wasting 3 days at a real university to come to the sad realization that your a complete moron.

" (or, barring that, that we know someone who knows how to induce a miscarriage) "

According to your blog you have a son which makes the above your post even more disturbing.
In response to your LE SIGH post. Your son isn't going to make it to high school let alone graduate school. If you continue with that attitude .


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