Opening this Friday in select theaters is a controversial new documentary, The Bridge - a film showing 23 of the 24 suicides that took place at San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge in the year 2004. Director Eric Steel assembled a dedicated crew who set up a camera every day for a year and caught video of everyday people coolly stepping over the railing and jumping to their deaths. The footage is possessed of an eerie calm, a profound stillness, and is ultimately a stunning portrayal of some lonely souls' final seconds on Earth.
Not surprisingly, The Bridge has been drawing the fire of suicide prevention groups who see the film as glorifying the allure of this already alarmingly popular suicide site. Since the bridge's construction in 1937, over 1,300 suicides have taken place. One about every two weeks.
Steel has been accused of serving up suicide as entertainment, misleading the city about his project to gain filming access and callously using the lives of the jumpers for his own gain.
(the goal is to)
..."allow us to see into the most impenetrable corners of the human mind and challenge us to think and talk about suicide in profoundly different ways."
"It is a movie about the human spirit in crisis. It is a movie about people,"
I was passing through SF in high school and was at the Golden Gate Bridge when someone jumped once. We too asked a police officer if it was common and he said there was a jumper about once a month.
ComradeSnarky said:
. . . it seems the filmmakers have handled their subjects with care and compassion.
I don't know; filming someone's suicide without permission and then making a movie about it and charging people money to see it doesn't seem all that caring and compassionate.
I'd be absolutely fucking livid if footage of one of my friends or loved ones ending his or her own life ended up in a movie like this.
I'm not necessarily condemning the whole thing, but I'd have a hard time characterizing that as particularly caring or compassionate toward the specific individuals filmed, or toward the specific lives that those individuals ended.
And Jesus Christ--is anything off limits for entertainment fodder anymore? The idea of paying movie fare, going up to the ticket window and forking over eight bucks or whatever, to see people kill themselves--people who didn't intend to be on the fucking big screen, I'm sure--honestly makes me sick to my stomach. People's very personal choices to end their own lives shouldn't be deliberately filmed without their knowledge and then turned into some opportunity for Joe and Jane Moviegoer to buy their tickets and sit there in the audience and feel all sad when the sad music plays and gasp at the right times and maybe get a little ponderous during the credits and then leave the theater feeling like they "understand." This doesn't look like an "exploration of suicide;" it looks like voyeurism, plain and simple.
What I've read about Seneca is limited but I haven't seen anything that indicates that he was a proponent of suicide or a philosopher of suicide, just that he was sentenced to commit suicide, and had trouble doing so.
What I've read about Seneca is limited but I haven't seen anything that indicates that he was a proponent of suicide or a philosopher of suicide, just that he was sentenced to commit suicide, and had trouble doing so.
ComradeSnarky said:
. . . it seems the filmmakers have handled their subjects with care and compassion.
I don't know; filming someone's suicide without permission and then making a movie about it and charging people money to see it doesn't seem all that caring and compassionate.
I'd be absolutely fucking livid if footage of one of my friends or loved ones ending his or her own life ended up in a movie like this.
I'm not necessarily condemning the whole thing, but I'd have a hard time characterizing that as particularly caring or compassionate toward the specific individuals filmed, or toward the specific lives that those individuals ended.
And Jesus Christ--is anything off limits for entertainment fodder anymore? The idea of paying movie fare, going up to the ticket window and forking over eight bucks or whatever, to see people kill themselves--people who didn't intend to be on the fucking big screen, I'm sure--honestly makes me sick to my stomach. People's very personal choices to end their own lives shouldn't be deliberately filmed without their knowledge and then turned into some opportunity for Joe and Jane Moviegoer to buy their tickets and sit there in the audience and feel all sad when the sad music plays and gasp at the right times and maybe get a little ponderous during the credits and then leave the theater feeling like they "understand." This doesn't look like an "exploration of suicide;" it looks like voyeurism, plain and simple.
ComradeSnarky said:
. . . it seems the filmmakers have handled their subjects with care and compassion.
I don't know; filming someone's suicide without permission and then making a movie about it and charging people money to see it doesn't seem all that caring and compassionate.
I'd be absolutely fucking livid if footage of one of my friends or loved ones ending his or her own life ended up in a movie like this.
I'm not necessarily condemning the whole thing, but I'd have a hard time characterizing that as particularly caring or compassionate toward the specific individuals filmed, or toward the specific lives that those individuals ended.
And Jesus Christ--is anything off limits for entertainment fodder anymore? The idea of paying movie fare, going up to the ticket window and forking over eight bucks or whatever, to see people kill themselves--people who didn't intend to be on the fucking big screen, I'm sure--honestly makes me sick to my stomach. People's very personal choices to end their own lives shouldn't be deliberately filmed without their knowledge and then turned into some opportunity for Joe and Jane Moviegoer to buy their tickets and sit there in the audience and feel all sad when the sad music plays and gasp at the right times and maybe get a little ponderous during the credits and then leave the theater feeling like they "understand." This doesn't look like an "exploration of suicide;" it looks like voyeurism, plain and simple.
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They are dead. I don't think they mind.
But their family members and loved ones are likely to mind.
Personally, though, I do believe in showing the dead some measure of respect.
ComradeSnarky said:
. . . it seems the filmmakers have handled their subjects with care and compassion.
I don't know; filming someone's suicide without permission and then making a movie about it and charging people money to see it doesn't seem all that caring and compassionate.
I'd be absolutely fucking livid if footage of one of my friends or loved ones ending his or her own life ended up in a movie like this.
I'm not necessarily condemning the whole thing, but I'd have a hard time characterizing that as particularly caring or compassionate toward the specific individuals filmed, or toward the specific lives that those individuals ended.
And Jesus Christ--is anything off limits for entertainment fodder anymore? The idea of paying movie fare, going up to the ticket window and forking over eight bucks or whatever, to see people kill themselves--people who didn't intend to be on the fucking big screen, I'm sure--honestly makes me sick to my stomach. People's very personal choices to end their own lives shouldn't be deliberately filmed without their knowledge and then turned into some opportunity for Joe and Jane Moviegoer to buy their tickets and sit there in the audience and feel all sad when the sad music plays and gasp at the right times and maybe get a little ponderous during the credits and then leave the theater feeling like they "understand." This doesn't look like an "exploration of suicide;" it looks like voyeurism, plain and simple.
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They are dead. I don't think they mind.
But their family members and loved ones are likely to mind.
Personally, though, I do believe in showing the dead some measure of respect.
Which has no bearing on anyone who does not believe the same, but ok.
My cinematography mentor worked on this film, he told us all about the process behind it and how they handled things. There's no disrespect or exploitation intended, and they even called in any potential suicides they saw so the bridge guards could prevent them. Sometimes, though, the guards just didn't come right away, and the camera operators were literally miles away filming from select locations.
And for those individuals who ended up in the film, the families were contacted and spoken with whenever possible.
Put it this way, no matter what you mark on the back of that little spot on your license that asks if you do or do not wish to donate your organs, it is disregarded and someone else ultimately makes the decision. Why? You are dead.
If someone else is allowed to rip off the membranes of my eyes or steal my chest cavity organs even though it is my expressed wish for them not to do so, I don't think being filmed doing something in public is voyeuristic. You don't want to be seen killing yourself? Eat a bullet, learn to tie a knot, go buy a new belt, or a pack of razorblades and some sleeping pills, and find someplace quiet.
If they cared they wouldn't be jumping of a freaking bridge. Grim? Yes. Do I care? No.
ComradeSnarky said:
. . . it seems the filmmakers have handled their subjects with care and compassion.
I don't know; filming someone's suicide without permission and then making a movie about it and charging people money to see it doesn't seem all that caring and compassionate.
I'd be absolutely fucking livid if footage of one of my friends or loved ones ending his or her own life ended up in a movie like this.
I'm not necessarily condemning the whole thing, but I'd have a hard time characterizing that as particularly caring or compassionate toward the specific individuals filmed, or toward the specific lives that those individuals ended.
And Jesus Christ--is anything off limits for entertainment fodder anymore? The idea of paying movie fare, going up to the ticket window and forking over eight bucks or whatever, to see people kill themselves--people who didn't intend to be on the fucking big screen, I'm sure--honestly makes me sick to my stomach. People's very personal choices to end their own lives shouldn't be deliberately filmed without their knowledge and then turned into some opportunity for Joe and Jane Moviegoer to buy their tickets and sit there in the audience and feel all sad when the sad music plays and gasp at the right times and maybe get a little ponderous during the credits and then leave the theater feeling like they "understand." This doesn't look like an "exploration of suicide;" it looks like voyeurism, plain and simple.
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I don't see how a documentary exploring suicide, like the Bridge, is any more or less exploitative than a documentary exporing the Holocaust, like Night and Fog. I wonder how much you objected to Schindler's List? I mean, Jesus, 6 million people murdered. Is nothing sacred? You seem to think this film is intended as a blockbuster that every guy is going to take his date to. Hardly.
Film is an artform, and not always meant for pure entertainment. Your rant does a huge disservice to serious filmmakers who have more on their mind than selling movie tickets and buckets of popcorns.
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