And nerds are upset that the Transformers don't look like they used to in the upcoming movie. Tell the Christians to get in line if they want to whine about unfaithful adaptations in Hollywood.

i <3 veggie tales

They have every right to put the religious aspects into it. I just chose not to let my son watch it because it had to attach Christianity to morals, instead of just letting them be morals. But, people are welcome to make crap, even religious crap, it's a free country.

I actually got a kick out of smoking a bowl and watching vegetalbes talk about Jesus, though. (After the kids went to bed, of course)

I scanned through, read "L. Brent Bozell", and sighed.

For some reason, this reminds me of when the Christian company Clean Flicks started putting out DVDs of Hollywood films with all the nudity, sex, and profanity edited out. In a way, it's funny that the Christians are getting a taste of their own medicine and they don't like it. On the other hand, I don't think anybody's work should be edited without their permission. By the way, I love Veggie Tales; I think it's adorable and the writing is very funny. But I think it would be more appropriate for NBC if it weren't Christian.

It's a shame that the series about the Jewish Pork Products (The Hambergs) never gained a following like Veggie Tales before being cancelled.

It was way ahead of it's time.

Waitaminute. Does anyone really think putting religion in a kids show is a good idea? I certainly don't. I expect the kind of television that caters to its audience. I don't think it's appropriate to show to those whose mental acuity is not at the point where they can be responsible for what they're watching. Be it religion, sex, violence or other major influencing factors on a person's behaviour, children have a tendency, I think, to ape what they see rather than consider its validity and making a choice as to whether or not they believe it.

I do not want our children blindly apeing religion. We've all seen what religion without reason has caused.

so you want them blindly apeing secular humanism?

The whole notion of holding out until children could theoretically "choose" has, perhaps, noble intentions--but it is making a value judgment FOR children just as much as "pushing" religion on them does.

I just think it's silly that NBC picked up the show without figuring out the whole premise of the thing is christian.

i do find it enjoyable that now the conservative chrsitians are (finally!) getting a taste of their own censorship medicine.

You'd think they'd be happy that Christian values (as if other groups don't share similar or the same values) were being brought to children who, due to being raised in non-Christian households, would otherwise have missed out on Veggie Tales. But I guess teaching kids to be decent human beings isn't worth a thing if they don't become Christian in the process.

I don't want them blindly apeing anything. Unfortunately, they do. So we need to be careful what they're exposed to or else mitigate their exposure with proper parental support, which I would not credit most parents with being able to provide.

We can't choose to show children everything and we can't choose to show children nothing. And the argument will persist.

I understand your intentions and they're good, but kids blindly ape. It's what they do. It's how they learn, up until a certain point when the higher cognitive functions kick in and their analytical skills grow to a practically useful level.

As parents, what we don't want is all that happening in a vacuum. While we have unquestioned authority over their development, it's our responsibility to choose what they blindly ape, so that the values we want to pass on to them become as deep a part of their character as possible.

Given all that, I'd much rather they blindly ape a show with a true Christian message (love, forgiveness, generosity, peace, faith, optimism, inclusivity) than something that merely flashes and bleeps at them and sedates them with stimuli. Or, worse, the crap I grew up watching. (G.I. Joe anyone?)

(And if you're worried about the decidedly un-Christian stuff that often gets lumped in with Christianity - intolerance, judgmentalism, exclusivity, arrogance - well, that too falls under the above statement about kids not growing up in a vacuum. Parents gotta do some work. That's how we change the world for the better.)

It's a shame Christianity gets such a bad rep, really.

It takes a few fanatics to ruin it for the rest of us. *sigh* But for me, a Veggie Tales movie will not be any good unless there's a reprise of the I LOVE MY LIPS song. It's perfect for stoners and drunkards alike.