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  • SATURDAY DECEMBER 3 2005 11:20 PM

Porn Again: Boobs for Bibles

Guns for toys. Can foods for tickets to see Foghat. Now an atheistic student group that attends University of Texas at San Antonio has decided to jump in on the "goods for exchange" bandwagon and will trade in bibles for porn. Hard core porn.

“We consider The Bible to be a very negative force in the history of the world,” student Ryan Walker said. He is part of a student group calling itself the "Atheist Agenda."

Club members were on campus asking students to exchange religious materials for pornographic magazines like Black Label and Playboy.

News 4 WOAI’s Demond Fernandez showed the Athiest Agenda's "Smut for Smut" fliers to Pastor Rick Hawkins of the Family Praise Center.

“In my opinion, there are no atheists. There are fools,” Hawkins said. “So, that would be foolish propaganda.”


This also has caused a ruckus among students as they share a section of the quad with the Campus Crusade for Cthulhu’s “Porn and Bibles in Exchange for Eternal Agony” table.

 

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Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

DEC 04, 2005 06:06 AM

razorbladesonata said:
"Cthulhu for Pesident..Why choose the Lesser Evil"?


bwahaha

heresy2007

heresy2007

New Paltz, NY
July 2004

DEC 04, 2005 07:01 AM

funny, but I would never trade porn for a bible.

Skutch

Skutch

Portland, OR
December 2003

DEC 04, 2005 07:14 AM

TedKoppel said:
If they were just being smartasses, I would support this. But they think they're making a point. Therefore they're idiots of the same variety as what they're fighting against. The Bible is the inspiration for a great many of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, music or especially painting and sculpture.



I would argue that sex has been the inspiration for a great many more of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, painting and sculpture, and especially music.

AbeVigoda

AbeVigoda

Providence, RI
August 2003

DEC 04, 2005 07:42 AM

Skutch said:
I would argue that sex has been the inspiration for a great many more of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, painting and sculpture, and especially music.



And far fewer wars.



Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 04, 2005 07:45 AM

it's trading one fantasy world for another.

Quartz

Quartz

USA
November 2005

DEC 04, 2005 07:59 AM

TedKoppel said:
The Bible is the inspiration for a great many of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, music or especially painting and sculpture. It's also the inspiration for a great many acts of charity; most of the homeless shelters in the nation are run by churches. It's not to say that these beliefs don't become hideously ugly too, because they do, but I've never understood the logic that removing The Bible equals a better world, just because something would always replace The Bible. A great many people need to feel like there's some higher meaning to life. There's not one civilization I've ever heard of that didn't have its religious or spiritual beliefs. It could be worse than The Bible.



The basic ideals of the Bible are fine. Don't kill, etc. However, the Christian Church has skewed it, and if you actually read it, you'll find several contradictions, and very confusing rhetoric. Either way, the Bible isn't the problem, it's the people propagandizing it.



On a side note, funny story. I was sitting in Panera with my boyfriend Vaughn, my best friend Chrissy, and her current toy Bryan. We were sitting there bashing on the Catholic Church and the hypocrisy of it and most of the Christian religions.... when this slightly past middle age woman asks us if we were Christians. We felt so bad! She looked so mild mannered and earnest. So while normally we'd have said "Hell no", we politely said no, and that we were simply having a scholarly discussion. We busted out laughing once she left.

Kittie

Kittie

Pittsburgh, PA
August 2003

DEC 04, 2005 08:07 AM

i wonder what i could get for an "adventure bible"

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

DEC 04, 2005 08:07 AM

Skutch said:

TedKoppel said:
If they were just being smartasses, I would support this. But they think they're making a point. Therefore they're idiots of the same variety as what they're fighting against. The Bible is the inspiration for a great many of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, music or especially painting and sculpture.



I would argue that sex has been the inspiration for a great many more of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, painting and sculpture, and especially music.


Certainly that's a factor, but I wasn't necessarily saying it was a majority. Just that if you look at art history, the subject of most great paintings up until a certain era was religious.

pogojoe

pogojoe

USA
March 2004

DEC 04, 2005 08:20 AM

TedKoppel said:

Skutch said:

TedKoppel said:
If they were just being smartasses, I would support this. But they think they're making a point. Therefore they're idiots of the same variety as what they're fighting against. The Bible is the inspiration for a great many of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, music or especially painting and sculpture.



I would argue that sex has been the inspiration for a great many more of the significant pieces of art in history, be it books, painting and sculpture, and especially music.


Certainly that's a factor, but I wasn't necessarily saying it was a majority. Just that if you look at art history, the subject of most great paintings up until a certain era was religious.





That's really because the Church was the only place that had the money to pay an artist to make something.

JakeMarley

JakeMarley

I'm lost
October 2002

DEC 04, 2005 08:22 AM

Whether this demonstration is serious or tongue-in-cheek, it paints Atheists in a bad light, with sweeping brushstrokes, and the resulting portrait lacks definition. There are as many types of Atheist as there are those who have some sort of spiritual or religious belief, and my guess is that these students are the worst kind – ignorant hedonists who are more interested in varieties of marijuana than in Atheism as a philosophy. [Yes, I do realize that I have just smeared hedonism and hedonists unfairly and stereotypically.] At any rate, I am usually offended that I and my fellow Atheists must be thrown in with the likes of this particular student group.

“We consider The Bible to be a very negative force in the history of the world,” student Ryan Walker said.



Now, I for one consider the Bible itself to be one of the world’s greatest books, and its story the richest of myths, particularly the Gospels. If you pick up a Red Letter edition and find a significant portion of those parts in red to be words that you should not live by, well, then I can only think you must be an evil person who does not value peace and love. To take such a book and condemn it as a negative force is the sort of thinking that caused the Cultural Revolution; fundamentally good people such as Mao can go down in history as monsters, all their good works overshadowed, because of such thinking. I don’t believe that books are negative forces. Mein Kampf sits right next to Night in one of my bookcases, which is as it should be; I seriously doubt Elie Wiesel ever burned a book.

There are many ways in which spiritual and religious belief are negative forces. Fundamentally, if the basis of one’s life is false, all the rest comes falling down just like in the Biblical parable of the house built on sand. The malicious part, though, comes in the nature of power, in the way institutions of power can use people’s false belief to manipulate them to commit acts of evil, e.g., fighting in a war. IMHO, the most evil government in history has been the Roman Catholic Church, at least so in the history of the West.

My suggestion to these students is that they go make some eggnog just overflowing with whiskey or rum or whatever, sit down and watch A Charlie Brown Christmas and/or Scrooge and/or It’s a Wonderful Life a few dozen times, making certain that supply of eggnog never dwindles. Then, they should go to bed, sober up, get up the next morning and find a Bibles-for-porn campaign and try actually reading the Bible they receive, and ask themselves if, taken as myth, it is really such a bad thing.

Serragengar

Serragengar

United Kingdom
November 2004

DEC 04, 2005 08:45 AM

Hmm, the christian union at my university is currently having an advertising drive with a photo of clubbers on fire and the slogan "I can't wait to go to hell, all my mates will be there" Yoink.

Darke

Darke

Columbia, MO
June 2005

DEC 04, 2005 08:51 AM

Kittie said:
i wonder what i could get for an "adventure bible"



Cairo

Cairo

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

DEC 04, 2005 08:55 AM

This article's title is fucking hilarious.

handsome_rob

handsome_rob

Burlington, IA
May 2004

DEC 04, 2005 09:12 AM

now, see, if it was me it would be more like a "thump your bible at me, in exchange for i chop your head off" program. but that's just me, not all atheists.

pavlovsdog

pavlovsdog

Asheville, NC
May 2004

DEC 04, 2005 09:20 AM

Because bibles for science books is just not as appealing.

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