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Creationists Buying Dinosaurs for God

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In order to further the cause of creationism (oh, sorry, "intelligent design"wink, ridiculous religious groups like Answers in Genesis have been buying famous dinosaur-related attractions and converting them to carry an anti-evolution, pro-creationism message.

The gift shop at the attraction, called the Cabazon Dinosaurs, sells toy dinosaurs whose labels warn, "Don't swallow it! The fossil record does not support evolution."

We're putting evolutionists on notice: We're taking the dinosaurs back," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a Christian group building a $25-million creationist museum in Petersburg, Ky., that's already overrun with model sauropods and velociraptors.

"They're used to teach people that there's no God, and they're used to brainwash people," he said. "Evolutionists get very upset when we use dinosaurs. That's their star."



According to the creationism theme parks, creationists believe that God created the world in six days, and dinosaurs all ate plants in the Garden of Eden until Adam and Eve sinned. Then some dinosaurs ate meat and hung out with humans for about 4,500 years until they were drowned in the great flood -- except for the pairs of baby dinosaurs on Noah's Ark. Those baby dinosaurs, according to these people, are the basis for stories about fire-breathing dragons.

Real actual scientists and museum curators think these people are fucking idiots.

"Dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden, and Noah's Ark? Give me a break," said Kevin Padian, curator at the University of California Museum of Paleontology in Berkeley and president of National Center for Science Education, an Oakland group that supports teaching evolution. "For them, 'The Flintstones' is a documentary."



How do these people fucking exist in modern society?!?

(Hat Tip: bOINGbOING)

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loganrapp

loganrapp

Fresno, CA
August 2005

AUG 31, 2005 01:42 AM

thorr74 said:

Vestril said:

Smart isn't all that this is about, two very smart people can have opposing viewpoints. This has more to do with cultural indoctrination than it does with the ability to think well. What I'm afraid of is that same culture re-writing history as it already is in some areas, apparently. I'm also afraid of anything that further pollutes science with religious ideas--it is already enough weakened by individual and cultural bias, it doesn't need to become beholden to an implausible fairy tale as well.

I'm not really afraid of the Christian god because it doesn't exist, and incidentally I would be one of the ones that it wouldn't love, or would at least banish to hell and ultimately destroy (if this god creature loves me, we're in an abusive relationship).

I'm not really afraid of being wrong, either, because as near as I can tell hell will be a cool place to hang out--it has the right crowd anyway. I'm more afraid that I'm right and that wrong ideas are spreading. Maybe the people who are commiting these absurd acts seem far away to you, but if they're not in my back yard, they are at least in my neighbors.

Incidentally, someone's belief in Santa Claus or aliens (which obviously do exist, if nowhere near our sphere of influence) does nothing to actively challenge anything I believe in, this is somewhat different from people who are going out of their way to trash evolution.



Hey, if you are right and you have science to back it up, there's no need to worry....the truth shall prevail right? Science should stand up against the Bible, right? its a piece of fiction....science is hard facts....no one can argue science.......

wait a minute didn't "science" tell us the universe revolved around the earth??
anyways....science is NEVER wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Actually, Science is Wrong a Lot.

And stop using the word "truth." Truth is a subjective term.

Science has become as much of a religion as Christianity. It's all the same.

"I believe in the Bible (Origin of the Species). I think God exists (we came from lower beings), and the Priests (scientists) tell me how true it all is, and I blindly believe them."

I feel sorry for anyone who blindly believes in any sort of concept. And being intolerant of an entire religion because a few people within that religion (within a group of millions and millions of people) are intolerant? Hypocrisy flows both ways.

Yeah, fundamentalists are by no means fun. But you know what the funny thing is? There's a fundamentalist preacher out at my college every now and then. The man's largest source of conflict? Other Christians.

But no one cares about that. They care about the one fundamentalist who screams death from the clouds, not the twenty people of relative level-headed dispositions who tell him to shut his trap and stop representing them.

I really pity some people here who blindly follow Science. You might as well add the "tology" to it.

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

AUG 31, 2005 01:47 AM

I love love love love love dinosaurs. It's sad that fucking retards are co-opting them. Dinosaurs must be free from politics... at least, politics I disagree with.

loganrapp

loganrapp

Fresno, CA
August 2005

AUG 31, 2005 01:49 AM

Anton said:
I love love love love love dinosaurs. It's sad that fucking retards are co-opting them. Dinosaurs must be free from politics... at least, politics I disagree with.



Oh, so if hard line evolutionists bought the dinosaurs, that's quite okay because you agree with evolution? Give me a break.

[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by Chance]

JohnFM1

JohnFM1

United Kingdom
May 2004

AUG 31, 2005 01:55 AM

Chance said:

Anton said:
I love love love love love dinosaurs. It's sad that fucking retards are co-opting them. Dinosaurs must be free from politics... at least, politics I disagree with.



Oh, so if hard line evolutionists bought the dinosaurs, that's quite okay because you agree with evolution? Give me a break.



Sounds fair...

loganrapp

loganrapp

Fresno, CA
August 2005

AUG 31, 2005 01:59 AM

Swap fair with hypocritical, then I'll agree with you.

Again - matching intolerance with intolerance just makes me laugh in the faces of people who take a hard line approach to anything. So ridiculous how people can't co-exist and then blame the other side for it.

akl

akl

Sacramento, CA
February 2004

AUG 31, 2005 02:02 AM

Chance said:
Actually, Science is Wrong a Lot.

And stop using the word "truth." Truth is a subjective term.

Science has become as much of a religion as Christianity. It's all the same.


Firstly, he was being sarcastic. Personally, the repeated exclamation points gave that away for me.

Secondly, the idea behind science is to create a theory then prove it to be true. As such, poorly made theories come about - if they are not proven, they should be discarded.

Thirdly, how is science a religion? I can hardly compare people wanting to understand the world around them a religion - in fact, particularly in the case of Christianity, it appears part of the goal of faith is to blindly ignore the reasons the world around you is the way that it is.

That makes some people happy. It does not make everyone happy, and those people spurn "faith" for facts. They are not "replacing" religion, they are going a different path.

I really pity some people here who blindly follow Science. You might as well add the "tology" to it.


Really? So people who listen to those who spend a lot of time and money researching and proving theories to be true are the same as people who drop millions of dollars to a science fiction author in Southern California in hope of happiness?

I'll concur that some people believe everything they hear, but that's not science.

Helly

Helly

Australia
December 2004

AUG 31, 2005 02:04 AM

surreal

JohnFM1

JohnFM1

United Kingdom
May 2004

AUG 31, 2005 02:16 AM

Chance said:
Actually, Science is Wrong a Lot.



The main beef that reference has is to studies using statistcal methods to show significance.
Not all scientific papers use these statistics - and some of us don't use any.

This quote says it all...

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.



And if you knew anything about science, you'd have already known that.

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

AUG 31, 2005 04:37 AM

Chance said:

Anton said:
I love love love love love dinosaurs. It's sad that fucking retards are co-opting them. Dinosaurs must be free from politics... at least, politics I disagree with.


Oh, so if hard line evolutionists bought the dinosaurs, that's quite okay because you agree with evolution?


You're smart!

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

AUG 31, 2005 05:27 AM

Chance said:
I really pity some people here who blindly follow Science. You might as well add the "tology" to it.


Gosh. You're, like, deep, and shit.

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

AUG 31, 2005 06:24 AM

Chance said:
"I believe in the Bible (Origin of the Species). I think God exists (we came from lower beings), and the Priests (scientists) tell me how true it all is, and I blindly believe them."



I certainly agree that some people just believe what they've been told instead of actually having a first hand knowledge of things, and they can become just as kneejerk and acting on their faith in Scientists like people do in Preachers. But the difference is that people investing trust in Science are not investing trust in a text (or a particular interpretation of one), they're investing trust in a process. Science is the antithesis of fundamentalism - it is continually self-correcting and progressing - moving inexorably to a better understanding of the world around us. It's okay that Scientists are occasionally wrong - it's expected, it's accepted, and Science moves on.

Chance said:
I feel sorry for anyone who blindly believes in any sort of concept. And being intolerant of an entire religion because a few people within that religion (within a group of millions and millions of people) are intolerant? Hypocrisy flows both ways.



FWIW, I really have a problem with the sort of kneejerk anti-Christian stuff you see around here as well.

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

AUG 31, 2005 06:53 AM

Chance said:
I really pity some people here who blindly follow Science. You might as well add the "tology" to it.



I really pity people who believe The Bible. It is a work of fiction.

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

AUG 31, 2005 06:56 AM

Idjiit said:
FWIW, I really have a problem with the sort of kneejerk anti-Christian stuff you see around here as well.



This isn't a "kneejerk" reaction. Christianity has been used as a cultural blunt weapon for 2000 years.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

AUG 31, 2005 06:58 AM

surlyclown said:
They should build a Genesis Device for their museum.



KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

AUG 31, 2005 07:00 AM

Jazz said:
There was a show in australia last night about "intelligent design" because they are thinking of letting the propagander vidoes be played in schools.
Firstly i wish we would stop importing stupidity from america because we have enough here already.
and secondly i thought it was interesting that the creationist started his argument with "if"
Don't know about you but I'm always convinced by arguments starting with "if"
thirdly they don't have a good track record do they, I mean anyone remember the flat earth theory that they came up with. It only took 500 years for they to admit they may have got it wrong. (let me know if anyone is still falling off the edges please)
And last but not least
I wonder how many of these people who believe in the garden of eden concept also tell there children "an apple a day keeps the doctor away"

Newton was struck with an apple and founded modern day scinece
Creationist were stuck by an apple that founded stupidity.

But I have an apple that lets me email and make silly posts like this

Mwah kiss
Jazz



oh, the earth is round, of couuuuurr--!

*falls off the edge*

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