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Aging Action Movie Characters: How They Rank

SUNDAY FEBRUARY 17 2008 6:00 AM

Submitted by TheCoolerKing. Edited By TheCoolerKing.

The release of the Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull trailer this week was greeted with mild interest, excitement, and ultimately, disappointment... from me. Early script problem rumors aside it seems they may have taken too long to make this latest installment. Way too long. I hope the "coming up with the title part" wasn't what delayed them because if it was, they honestly could've used a bit more time.

Hunting for some crystal sculpture? Sounds like an excursion to my mother's dust-filled living room. Perhaps next time (please, no next time) Indy can hunt for a Franklin Mint, commemorative Elvis plate.

The implausibilty of Indy bouncing around (yeah, I know they mock his age, but it doesn't quite work) caused me to think about just how implausible it was, by comparison, to other aging heroes of the cinema.

(note: character's age is the oldest it was while portraying that character)

John Rambo: Rambo franchise
Actor's Age: 61
Character's Age: 60
Having a character tied to a specific war which we can use to gauge age certainly limits your prospects for ignoring time's passage. There's a reason Iron Man, in the new film, is presented as a Gulf War vet as opposed to one from Vietnam as was originally the case.

In spite of that limitation, Stallone still throws the weights around regularly and despite some odd, uh, "Hollywood-ized" portions of his face, still looks like a bad-ass.

It doesn't strike me as unrealistic that he could wield rocket launchers and guns against bad guys while taking cover in the jungle. Well, no more unrealistic than it did in his prime. The fact that Rambo probably "juices" makes this all the more possible.

DIVE ROLLS - 3/5


Rocky Balboa: Rocky franchise
Actor's Age: 58
Character's Age: 59
The whole Rocky comeback thing seemed ridiculous until George Foreman came out of retirement to pummel the heavyweight champion of the world at the age of 45. Still, the idea that the Nevada State Athletic Commisson would sanction even an exhibition match between the current champ and a 59-year-old faded legend, without even one tune-up fight, is insane.

The idea that he'd acquit himself well, isn't that crazy. The heavyweight division is slightly better now then it was a few years ago, but it's still a horrid mess. Part of me thinks the George Foreman of today would have a decent shot of KO-ing this useless goliath. Is Foreman a better fighter, pound for pound, than Rocky Balboa? Is a prime Clubber Lang? Could Rock have destroyed Joe Frazier, as Foreman did? The answers are, of course, no, no and yes.

DIVE ROLLS - 3/5


Terminator (T-800 model)
Actor's Age: 60
Character's Age: It's a robot. (7 kilojewels? 54 parsecs? who knows?)
The Terminator is, as we all know, a cyborg. Though different actual cyborgs appear in each film, the "model" is the same. And yet, somehow, the character in Terminator 3 seems to be suffering the effects of aging found most commonly in Earth humans... Hmm, curious. However the jacked-up Arnold looked close enough to the original (when clad in trademark leather jacket and glasses) to make an effective killing machine. And he could walk just as stiffly then as he did in his prime.

If he ever again appears in the role they better come up with some "computer virus" excuse for why he looks like a 60 year old man but, so far, so believable.

DIVE ROLLS - 4/5


James Bond: Never Say Never Again
Actor's Age: 53
Character's Age: unknown
This movie had some flaws but Connery's age wasn't one of them. It's the only (unofficial) Bond film that I can recall addressing his age. Bond comes out out retirement to pull off a mission eerily similar to his first. Maybe it's a Connery thing, cause I was able to suspend disbelief even as recently as the horrid Entrapment. Buying Connery as a 69-year-old cat burglar was far easier than attempting to buy Catherine Zeta-Jones as an actress. Maybe it was all the slimming, black, cat burglar suits?

Bond at his current age might be a stretch but I'd pay good money to see him appear as the villain in the next 007 installment.

DIVE ROLLS - 4/5


John McClane: Live Free or Die Hard
Actor's Age: 52
Character's Age: unknown (let's say 52?)
Action Hero Note: If you're an aging action character back for one last score, and have the option to inject some fresh blood into your act by shaving off your receding hairline, do it. A tanned, bald head apparently takes a few years off. McClane still looks good. Maybe it's the "everyman" factor of the character. The fact that he never looked great to begin with. I'd see another Die Hard installment between now and his 56th birthday. Fifty-seven, if he finds something else to shave off.

DIVE ROLLS - 3/5


Ralph "Papa" Thorson (Steve McQueen): The Hunter
Actor's Age: 50
Character's Age: unknown
Not a classic film, I know. More memorable for being McQueen's last, than anything else. And it's not a horrible movie. (He does get to hang out with a visor-less Geordi La Forge. Or, if you'd prefer, a book-less, "guy from Reading Rainbow.") But McQueen looks tired and not that excited about things and rightfully so, as he was battling cancer throughout the filming. That eliminates age as the culprit, as I've no doubt a healthier McQueen would've done more here. Of course, I've still seen this movie at least six times.

DIVE ROLLS - 2/5


William Munny: Unforgiven
Actor's Age: 62
Character's Age: unknown
Not technically an action film though it does address the topic here as Eastwood is an aging action star portraying an aging "action character." The verdict? This movie is flawless and his age is a non-factor for three reasons

1) He's supposed to be old and behaves accordingly. He's a bad shot, at first.

2) While he is shooting and killing younger men he isn't doing so while also somersaulting through a plate glass window, sliding across a bar, and simultaneously killing more than six people. Though the constraints of the time period are partially the reason, at no point does he dangle from a helicopter while kicking bad guys.

3) He's Clint Eastwood.

DIVE ROLLS - 5/5


Blade: Blade franchise
Actor's Age: 45
Character's Age: unknown (Are vampires on the same calendar as us?)
Fourty-five is pretty young, Snipes has some (apparently jail-free) years in front of him. Despite the presence of a junior-team of Vamp slayers intended to take over for him in the last Blade film, he did okay. There may've been less spin-kicking, I can't recall. Since the character's half-vamp and therefore, half immortal, he could keep up the killing for as long as he's physically able.

DIVE ROLLS - 3/5


James Braddock (Chuck Norris): Missing in Action franchise
Actor's Age: 48 (during the last MIA film)
Character's Age: unknown (but like Rambo, a Vietnam vet. I'm sure I could mock up an approx age range but, would that really enhance this piece?)
What would an action movie star round-up be without Chuck Norris!?(Answer: slightly more A-list... and slightly less Hucka-bish)

I've seen all three "Braddock" films and the only thing I can remember about any of them is the scene where a burlap sack containing a rat is placed and tied over Braddock's head. After much "flailing about" the bag is removed to reveal... a dead rat! In Braddock's mouth! The movie should've ended there. Sequels could've been done with other animals in place of the rat. I guess he looked okay for 48 but I casn't see ranking it higher than the other movies on this list.

DIVE ROLLS - 1/5


Indiana Jones: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Actor's Age: 66
Character's Age: unknown
From the trailer we see that he's jumping, whipping and elbowing baddies much as he did in prior installments. Raiders...was perfect, Temple... was decent and Crusade... was fun. This one looks kind of stale. He looks tired. The jokes seem not as fresh as you'd like and well, crystal skulls, man... I'm holding out hope that it proves me wrong but I'm not sure I see it. As of this moment.

DIVE ROLLS - 1/5






TheCoolerKing did stand-up in front of a Cylon! Life ain't so bad...

 

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Bev_Antain

Bev_Antain

Italy
February 2004

FEB 17, 2008 06:14 AM

Can't say I'm expecting that movie that much, I believe that if you do a trilogy you'd better end it there.
Plus, probably it just me on this, when the whole casting thing came out the minimum interest I had in a new Indy movie went away. I mean without the late Denholm Elliot, John Rhys Davies and Sean Connery (that made the last one more fun), but with Shia Le Beouf....nah.
Also, is it my imagination or there was military crate with written Roswell, New Mexico on it in the trailer? Please don't tell me they're playing the UFO card now.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

FEB 17, 2008 06:26 AM

...Want to hear more about the Cylon, dammit.

lefthandright

lefthandright

New Zealand
September 2006

FEB 17, 2008 06:34 AM

who is your pick for the frank shamrock vs. chung le match? I know this is totally off the topic...but ol' frank has retired and then 'untired' afew times now.

bunky

bunky

Rensselaer, NY
January 2007

FEB 17, 2008 07:04 AM

No, Steven Seagal !!!!!

xfinitex

xfinitex

East Lansing, MI
August 2005

FEB 17, 2008 07:11 AM

Its actually pretty well accepted that they're doing the UFO thing. I think it was Vanity Fair that they discussed this in, but they said that the skull is almost certainly in some way extraterrestrial. Plus, if you want, you can find a picture of it online, and it certainly doesn't look too human.

willam9

willam9

Philadelphia, PA
January 2008

FEB 17, 2008 10:05 AM

i'm more interested in which cylon it was...

ChocolateJesus

ChocolateJesus

USA
January 2005

FEB 17, 2008 10:40 AM

The UFO thing, I believe, is going to be more in line with ancient civilizations that had alien contact, like Stargate or something. I could be wrong, but that was what I got out of the Vanity Fair article. It makes sense with the time period being in the fifties. Fifties sci-fi movie replaces Thirties Republic serials.

And I gotta disagree with The Cooler King. I was very pleased with the trailer, and never once thought Ford looked tired. This movie is right next to Dark Knight in my must-see summer movie list.

TheCoolerKing

TheCoolerKing

NEWSWIRE

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 17, 2008 10:53 AM

lefthandright said:
who is your pick for the frank shamrock vs. chung le match? I know this is totally off the topic...but ol' frank has retired and then 'untired' afew times now.


Most likely Shamrock. Too soon for Cung Le and I doubt he has much on the ground... Frank looked pretty good against Baroni, I thought.

Strega

Strega

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

FEB 17, 2008 11:28 AM

ChocolateJesus said:
And I gotta disagree with The Cooler King. I was very pleased with the trailer, and never once thought Ford looked tired. This movie is right next to Dark Knight in my must-see summer movie list.



+1

I thought it looked fantastic. And Harrison looks sexier than ever. I can't wait.

CountVertigo

CountVertigo

Ann Arbor, MI
June 2005

FEB 17, 2008 11:51 AM

The issue I had with the trailer has nothing to do with Ford's age or his ability to play Indy. It had more to do with some conspicuous wire-fu whip-action there in the store-room. Sure, swinging from the whip always seemed a bit implausible (this is coming from a former ten-year-old who worked REALLY hard at it) but this time around, I dunno. It seems as though they've eschewed the old-fashioned movie making tricks for Shiny New Digital Effects. I'd liken it to Die Hard, where supposed "everyman" John McClane dodges a flying car and then uses another flying car to kill a helicopter in the space of like five minutes.

xazapdmytinu

xazapdmytinu

Fort Collins, CO
July 2007

FEB 17, 2008 02:25 PM

CountVertigo said:
The issue I had with the trailer has nothing to do with Ford's age or his ability to play Indy. It had more to do with some conspicuous wire-fu whip-action there in the store-room. Sure, swinging from the whip always seemed a bit implausible (this is coming from a former ten-year-old who worked REALLY hard at it) but this time around, I dunno. It seems as though they've eschewed the old-fashioned movie making tricks for Shiny New Digital Effects. I'd liken it to Die Hard, where supposed "everyman" John McClane dodges a flying car and then uses another flying car to kill a helicopter in the space of like five minutes.



wait...that was digital!?

I think that we sadly have to accept digital trickery as a part of everyday movie life. If you want to know more about that check out the international version of the trailer.

I read the vanity fair article and it sounded to me that the crystal skull wasn't some trinket someone carved but it is an actual phenomenon where fossils actually become crystallized? And yeah the UFO thing seemed pretty much explicit.

SpidersAndArrows

SpidersAndArrows

San Francisco, CA
February 2007

FEB 17, 2008 02:50 PM

I'm looking forward to this. I hope they didn't overdo it with the CGI.

OctEgon

OctEgon

Tustin, CA
July 2005

FEB 17, 2008 03:15 PM

I'm more worried about Shia LaDouche being in this.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

Redding, CA
December 2005

FEB 17, 2008 04:30 PM

SpidersAndArrows said:
I'm looking forward to this. I hope they didn't overdo it with the CGI.


Me too. But after viewing the trailer, I'm not very optimistic.

TheCoolerKing

TheCoolerKing

NEWSWIRE

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 17, 2008 04:42 PM

Trahern said:
...Want to hear more about the Cylon, dammit.


willam9 said:
i'm more interested in which cylon it was...


Number Six...

Super nice and really cool.

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