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  • THURSDAY OCTOBER 11 2007 8:00 PM

"Terminator" Plus Vin Diesel Equals Fuck No



If watching "Top Chef" has taught me anything (it hasn't but bear with me), it's that recipes are important. The act of putting great ingredients together to create something fantastic, cannot be overestimated. Start out with second rate ingredients, and you risk ruining the end product.

In fact, even one or two bad ingredients can sabotage the overall result. (I learned that from "Three's Company." I gotta be honest, I'm not convinced this recipe-analogy thing is gonna fly. I'm hoping these cutesy asides distract from that.) For instance:

Peanut butter + jelly = good

Peanut butter + jelly + a horrible actor = no good

Lemme get more specific. A good recipe was:

Terminator + James Cameron + Arnold = classic movie

Maybe Arnold isn't the most versatile guy on Earth, but he can do one thing pretty well. Act like a robotic-killing machine. Now, sure, this skill didn't serve him so well when he was playing almost every other role, but it worked here. As for the remaining elements, James Cameron is a pretty good director and Terminator was his masterpiece. This combo worked perfectly for two movies.

Then they changed the recipe to:

Terminator + "not James Cameron" + Arnold = fun movie

Okay, that doesn't sound that appetizing, but, I actually thought it was a fun movie. Arnold had sort of a meta, fucking around, tongue-in-cheek vibe going, they added a hot new Lady-nator, and it went by quick. They also switched out Eddie Furlong with some other guy. He wasn't that important, which is why he's not in the recipe. Or, maybe he's the side dish of vegetables that has very little bearing on whether you order the meal. (Yeah, I know, I'll drop it soon.)

Now, comes word that the recipe has been watered down even more.

Terminator + "McG aka guy who did the Charlie's Angels movie" + Vin Diesel = Hey wait a minute!

I don't know about you, but I only like one of those ingredients. You may be thinking, "Well, Vin Diesel's a better actor than Arnie..." Maybe he's got more range, and by that I mean that he can go from "deep gravel voice" to "even deeper gravel voice," but that doesn't mean shit in this role. He's no Arnold, not when it comes to the Terminator. No offense but, the T-800 isn't made from clay, and this isn't the Golem movie.

I guess what I'm saying is, that's the worst looking PB&J I've ever seen...

(See, I kind of wrapped it up okay. Just promise me you won't let this turn you off of all analogies.)



TheCoolerKing is off to NYC to get drunk and run around like a jerk. Does that city still never sleep?

 

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ki1

ki1

Ireland
September 2007

OCT 12, 2007 03:41 AM

xela said:



omg. ha ha. before they were famous.

ki1

ki1

Ireland
September 2007

OCT 12, 2007 03:42 AM

the only person who could do terminator justice and scare the crap outa me would be christopher walken. now there is a cold hearted robot killing machine.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

OCT 12, 2007 06:24 AM

The only thing that bothers me about Vin Diesel in an Arnold movie is that it's not Vin and Arnold together in Conan 3.

AriesPreppy

AriesPreppy

I'm lost
September 2007

OCT 12, 2007 07:11 AM

Formus said:

AriesPreppy said:
There's no way in hell Diesel's acting could bring anything "good" to a franchise like the Terminator. He only has one method of acting and it's all monotonous.



And...Arnold doesn't? Let's not delude ourselves here.



But at least one would be willing to see a Terminator film with Arnold b/c it's been one of his staples since the 80's. We're used to his character and lack of "good" acting. To replace him w/ someone else would be a waste of time b/c the originals are what we are used to*.

*see threads for Goonies and Lost Boys sequels.

AriesPreppy

AriesPreppy

I'm lost
September 2007

OCT 12, 2007 07:14 AM

emotedcreations said:

Formus said:

emotedcreations said:
I think there should be a new trilogy starring Marlon Brando.



I...I don't know how to break his to you...


Yeah, yeah... I know.



Perfect. He's already dead; let's throw some machinery under his skin and we've got a real terminator. We rebuild him as he was in "The Wild One" and really get audiences in the theater. eeek

j/k

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 12, 2007 07:18 AM

Vin Diesel wasn't half bad in Boiler Room, either.

My vote for the new Terminator? Wallace Shawn.

jpaul256

jpaul256

Spring, TX
June 2006

OCT 12, 2007 07:37 AM

Terminator 4? Regardless of the cast, does this movie really need to be made? Seriously, Lord of the Rings was completed in three films and the Terminator series ain't even in the same ballpark.

I'll probably go see the 4th Indiana Jones flick, but even that is a stretch.

Hollywood needs a swift kick in the ass...

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

OCT 12, 2007 08:28 AM

emotedcreations said:
I think there should be a new trilogy starring Marlon Brando.


Yeah, just splice together random scenes from throughout his career, and every once in a while just dub in "terminator" over his dialogue. He could be talking to Matthew Broderick about "the machines," and then he's on his motorcycle chasing a bunch of CGI robots. This could work. This should work. This needs to work.

outryder

outryder

Oklahoma City, OK
September 2007

OCT 13, 2007 06:07 AM

The lady-nator would have been cool, if it had been Sigourney Weaver... who was sadly too old for the role, but no one else gets to play a female terminator in my eyes... sorry. As for Diesel, Riddick = Terminator that can bleed, He's already done this role, he just didn't get to peel his skin back or absorb a small thermonuclear impact... Diesel has proven he has what it takes to do a barely acting action role, be thankful it's not Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, his acting is a little over the top for this sort of thing. But yeah the director is totally going to mess this up.

rosehips

rosehips

Minneapolis, MN
February 2005

OCT 14, 2007 09:08 PM

I think Vin is the least believable "tough guy" actor I have ever seen. Bad actor. Not tough. He moves like crap. I can't imagine how quick his clumsy ass would go down in a real fight. And I don't see why people find him to be sexy. So ugly. And not ugly in a good way, like say, Clint Eastwood in his spaghetti western days. Just ugly. This is going to be horrible.

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