What could have come from that collaboration? Oh man, the mind boggles.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra is a good start for that list.

That's about what I thought. Terrible fake-ass classical/progrock that's almost totally based around a marketing gimmick rather than any talent.
Thanks for living up to expectations.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Awesome taste.

And what do you have? You're probably busy jerking off to posters of Oasis or some other prefab pop-culture shit. Opinions are opinions, and everyone has them. Mine is that he sucked. Yours is that you'd gladly dig him up and suck his cock. You're entitled to believe whatever you will. Either way you bore the shit outta me, and as a result I'm done with this thread.

Also, saying that Kurt is an icon because he died young, then pointing out that Elvis became a joke because of a bunch of shitty albums sort of disproves your point, as there is no icon bigger than Elvis despite his decline.


elvis might be loved by the masses but he still turned out crap in his later life. and when people talk about him in his later days it's usually with a condescending smirk or a "fat elvis" reference. not the respect of the same crazy assed white boy that played colored music and shook his ass like the devil. drove the girls wild and turned the music world in a wild new direction. he was not the first to do it but it was how he did it. and for me at least, i feel had he died like any of the other young artists who died young and in their prime he would have been more respectable.

or if you dont like that analogy look at fucking ozzy osbourn, heres this crazy rock n roll heavy metal god that kids see on tv as this mumbling shuffling zombie joke. but anybody that saw him in his early days knows he could put on one of the most insane and awesome shows. but now he's a joke. cobain died before his years of drug abuse set in and the embarrasment of being on the surreal life or pissing himself on the kurt loves courtney reality show.

but fuck it i dont know what i'm talking about.

i liked nirvana, they came out in an exteremely formitive time in my life. all the sudden here comes this scrawny greasy white kid with inane lyrics and three chord songs. for some reason despite the songs meaning fuck all they spoke to me. some sonic-mental connection.

now taking bets on the trifecta.

I have been thinking this for a whole day after reading that comment yesterday. This is a nice succinct version of it (thanks Shalome, but it lacks a good...

STFU.

Actually, I think you got suckered and then he died and you were disillusioned. Otherwise why the strong feelings?

PointBlank for the win!

3, and one non-Christmas, but thanks for playing.

d20 for the win!!!
/Can't help it, this is just too damn fun. I don't even care that I'm basically getting my teeth kicked in by all you sheeple.
//Cobain still sucked out loud.

I agree that people's perception on Kurt is warped because he took himself out before he had the chance to go stale. He was very creative and talented, but Cobain being one of the greatest of our time is debatable. The only reason he is such a legend now is because he died.

In my opinion, when it comes to those that got cut down in their prime during our time, Brad Nowell is far superior as a songwriter.

People wanna say the same thing about 2pac, but shit, mutherfucker's still releasing albums.

Cobain definitely made his cultural impact, but not with his music as much as with that 12 gauge.

Can you please accept that some extremely good music might NOT have more than three chords or lyrics that are not gibberish? The fact that that gibberish got such a huge rise out of people speaks to its power. So do those three chords. They fucking sound good. While I agree that complex music may be more interesting to listen to most of the time, someone banging on a drum in a simple rhythm can make me break a sweat. One of most amazing things in music is when, say, a simple three-chord pop song actually comes all the way around the circuit and you realize it's been MADE THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, because in its simplicity is something beautiful. Not sure if Kurt was coming all the way around, but the music makes me think so.

being a fan of music of all forms i find that overly complex music can become pretencious, and for some reason the response in every musical generation is a complex vs a simple return. its a constant musical struggle. and when the complex stuff gets to be too much good old fashioned simple garage band music comes back into play. why else would the strokes have made it other than it's simple good rocking music. three chords will always be the answer to overthought music. like yin and yang they somehow balance each other out