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  • WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 13 2006 12:00 PM

"Girls Gone Wild" Asshole Pleads Guilty

Joe Francis, raging douchebag and founder of the “Girls Gone Wild” empire, plead guilty to charges he and his company video taped underage girls. Francis acknowledged he did not maintain proper age and identity documents for each girl who performed for his camera. Although Francis will not spend any time in jail for the offenses, the court fines come directly out of Francis’ pocket.

GGW founder Joe Francis, along with related his related companies, Mantra Films Inc. and MRA Holding LLC, agreed to pay the government a total of $2.1 million in fines and restitution, however only $500,000 will be paid by Francis himself.


Francis showed regret for footage depicting underage girls involved in "sexually explicit conduct" in two of his “Girls Gone Wild” DVDs.

"Mantra Films, Inc., MRA Holdings Inc. and I admit that during 2002 and at times in 2003, we produced and distributed videos without obtaining the required records or attaching appropriate labeling," Francis said in a statement.


This is a landmark ruling; Francis was the first person to be successfully prosecuted under new federal laws requiring adult filmmakers to keep detailed records documenting age of participants in their films.

The charges in this case are believed to be the first to be filed under a law -- often referred to as Section 2257 -- passed by Congress to prevent the sexual exploitation of children. The law protects against the use of minors in the production of sexually explicit material by requiring producers to create and maintain age and identity records for every performer in sexually explicit movies and other media.



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Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

SEP 13, 2006 01:24 PM

Hunter said:
I don't see how it infantilizes WOMEN to not let GIRLS appear naked (and probably drunk) on camera.



I would imagine the original poster is referring to how this type of law takes the decision-making out of the hands of the people being filmed.

However, it wouldn't ever be legal for underaged girls to consent to this, so I'm not sure what original poster's point was.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

SEP 13, 2006 01:27 PM

Hunter said:
I don't see how it infantilizes WOMEN to not let GIRLS appear naked (and probably drunk) on camera.



Firstly, some of those "girls" are barely younger than the "girls" on this site. Secondly, and far more importantly, if you read what I actually wrote this case isn't about that. This is about not maintaining adequate records, which probably shouldn't be a felony in a free society.

If they were producing "Hot Grannies Gone Wild" and failed to provide or maintain records, even for images taken decades ago they are criminally liable. The government here is requiring producers of even marginally salacious material to maintain personally identifying data on millions of people forever with no privacy safeguards, and forcing those lists to be distributed to any and every downstream producer or purchaser.

Put another way, suppose SG went bankrupt and their assets (read: pictures of you) were sold to the highest bidder would you want those people to know who you are and where you live? SG would have to provide that information or face imprisonment, despite the fact that you are not underage.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

SEP 13, 2006 01:36 PM

reprobate said:

Hunter said:
I don't see how it infantilizes WOMEN to not let GIRLS appear naked (and probably drunk) on camera.



Firstly, some of those "girls" are barely younger than the "girls" on this site. Secondly, and far more importantly, if you read what I actually wrote this case isn't about that. This is about not maintaining adequate records, which probably shouldn't be a felony in a free society.

If they were producing "Hot Grannies Gone Wild" and failed to provide or maintain records, even for images taken decades ago they are criminally liable. The government here is requiring producers of even marginally salacious material to maintain personally identifying data on millions of people forever with no privacy safeguards, and forcing those lists to be distributed to any and every downstream producer or purchaser.

Put another way, suppose SG went bankrupt and their assets (read: pictures of you) were sold to the highest bidder would you want those people to know who you are and where you live? SG would have to provide that information or face imprisonment, despite the fact that you are not underage.



Out of curiosity, Reprobate, how does this compare to requirements of employers such as fast food restaurants that employ persons under eighteen or in professions that require a minimum age to work at, such as selling alcohol?
I ask because this seems to be the closest annalogy that I can think of to this situation. The girls in these videos are more or less being employed to perform in these videos (though they may not be receiving monetary compensation) in an age-restricted industry.

Edited to add disclaimer:
I ask this in all sincerity and out of genuine curiosity of the law, not as a snide rhetorical statement.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

SEP 13, 2006 01:40 PM

reprobate said:

Roethke said:
Yay!



Why yay? He may be a douchebag, but this prosecution has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the government making failure to maintain business records a federal crime. Note the lack of obscenity charges, or child pornography charges. His crap doesn't rise to the level of obscenity, but he has to keep records just the same, just "in case" he hires a minor to do something he's not doing because its "adult" material. This isn't war on kiddie porn, this is war on nudity that infantilizes women and puts big brother's grimy hand places it has no business being.



Yay because this is one step closer to him losing everything and dying.

Trucker_Fiction

Trucker_Fiction

Normal, IL
December 2003

SEP 13, 2006 02:06 PM

'bout time that fucking frat boy paid some damn fines.

badRonald

badRonald

Montreal, QC
September 2004

SEP 13, 2006 02:30 PM

I love how people who subscribe to porn site can be all high and mighty against a porn site producer!!!

The fact that this law is another erosion of personal freedoms and privacy for consenting Americans and that no one is complaining, baffles me.

Davegeek

davegeek

Trail, BC
December 2005

SEP 13, 2006 02:43 PM

badRonald said:
I love how people who subscribe to porn site can be all high and mighty against a porn site producer!!!



Ahhhh delicious irony.

airyk

airyk

Salem, CT
OLD SKOOL

SEP 13, 2006 02:45 PM

i hardly think that the government making you sign a piece of paper that says "yes, i am at least 18 years old" if you want to do porn is an erosion of personal freedom. but hey, bitch for the sake of bitching if you want

Erragal

Erragal

Knoxville, TN
October 2004

SEP 13, 2006 02:51 PM

So next we get to see, "My cell mates gone wild on my ass"

Tangus

Tangus

Chicago, IL
November 2005

SEP 13, 2006 02:57 PM

it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

whatever

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

SEP 13, 2006 03:08 PM

airyk said:
i hardly think that the government making you sign a piece of paper that says "yes, i am at least 18 years old" if you want to do porn is an erosion of personal freedom. but hey, bitch for the sake of bitching if you want



They don't simply need a signed piece of paper stating that someone is 18. They need the total gamut of personal information from name, address, and so on.

And the problem is that the government is requiring everyone who sells porn to have this information on hand and readily available for every person who appears in any pornographic materials they may try to sell.

1st of all, larger porn sites don't neccessarily have the resources to maintain the kind of detailed and easily accessible records that the government is demanding from them.

2nd of all, because anyone who sells an image of a model is required to have all their personal information on hand, this means that pornographic content that is produced and then sold and then resold and so on MUST carry the personal information of all the depicted persons along with the depictions themselves. So if you pose naked for someone and give them carte blanche to sell the right to reproduce your photos as often as they want, then they'll be selling your real name and all the information required to find you along with the pictures of your naked ass. Since most porn producers make their money packaging and reselling content, this means anyone who works in porn essentially loses their anonymity and, quite possibly, their privacy.


Honestly, nobody ever tries to pass off underaged girls as adults in the porn industry. It's illegal and there's no benefit since pedophiles need to know someone is less than 18 in order to be attracted to them. Minors who do break into the porn industry, though, always end up getting found out too. Their videos become illegal and it's all good.

Really, if they were interested in protecting the children, they'd devote all their efforts to rooting out the kidnappers and sex offenders rather than fining Joe Francis (and, eventually, porn producers who aren't total assholes) for not keeping adequate records.





P.S. I might not know what I'm talking about.

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

SEP 13, 2006 03:18 PM

Didn't I hear that this guy was at the SG 5th Anniversary Party?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 13, 2006 03:22 PM

airyk said:
i hardly think that the government making you sign a piece of paper that says "yes, i am at least 18 years old" if you want to do porn is an erosion of personal freedom. but hey, bitch for the sake of bitching if you want



I was just reading this thread with no intention of posting, but man, you sure pulled this right out of your ass, didn't you.

Skankin_D

Skankin_D

Mentor, OH
March 2003

SEP 13, 2006 03:24 PM

Idjiit said:
Didn't I hear that this guy was at the SG 5th Anniversary Party?



yeah, with Paris Hilton...

badRonald

badRonald

Montreal, QC
September 2004

SEP 13, 2006 03:27 PM

I'm sure the government went after the bars that served those underaged girls alcohol with the same zeal it did with this guy.....

Anyway, this law which is supposed to protect women is in fact making them unsafe. Now any stalker with a bit of cash can say he wants to start a porn site, buy photos from a distributor, get all the adresses of the models.....and there you go.

Funny how often times law makers make laws that actually hinder women when they say they wanna help.

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