PETA 2: Animal testing breaks hearts

http://www.dumpalink.com/videos/Penn-and-Teller---PETA-484e.html


Some truths behind PETA that some of you might not know.

PETA is an organization of intolerance, not much different than, say, organized religion. Don't buy all their propaganda.

peta and greenpeace do NOTHING significant to stop the problems. they really just annoy people and expose children to travesties.

You're an idiot, superchibisan. PETA and Greenpeace raise awareness to those travesties that the companies commit.

I'm not an idiot and I will say that any company that funds terrorist activity against humans for the sake of animals needs to learn what "ethical treatment" is. Medical science would not be where it is today if not for the use of animals and if it means killing a 100 rabbits to save the life of one child, I'm going to choose the child.

This video makes me happy. I'm an animal lover and I'm going to school right now at Amercia'sTeaching Zoo. I'm all for animal rights and keeping these beautiful creatures safe!!

It's true that PETA might have a chequered past and might also conduct themselves in a way that could be deemed 'dodgy' - however it's the likes of PETA that address the balance in propoganda from the other side. I'm against animal testing but acknowledge that some advancements have depended on them... I also know that animal testing has hindered the progress in some cases and is widely seen as crude - and a stopgap until technology can bring about a replacement.

Animal testing is big business and there's millions of '£$' tied up in the labs, insurance compaines, delivery services, admin staff etc etc etc. There's a reason that there's a dark side to animal testing and expose's by PETA et al do good to highlight some of the atrocities.

As a response to the Penn and Teller video posted by BrokenOne

I'm gonna guess that Penn and Teller love a big juicy stake, and fried chicken. I'm also gonna guess that they believe that humans own the world and every living and non-living thing on it.

I've heard funny things about PETA but I'm not too familiar with the (bad) things they do. So I'd just like to point out a few things about this particular Penn and Teller video. They really didn't give much thought to what they are talking about. Seems like they just had a need to open their mouths and it makes them sound like complete idiots.

“...but just like other animals, we think that other animals are good to eat...” - other animals don't think so, they only eat to survive, not to satisfy their taste buds.

PETA euthanizes animals. That does sound like a strange thing for PETA to be doing, but what if they just couldn't find homes for those animals, and the only other option for those animals would have been to be stuck in cages for the rest of their lives? I think I'd rather be resting in peace personally.

Referring to slavery he says:“...do you really wanna equate that world wide shame... with chickens?” - Yes Penn! Just look (in the video) at the way he says it, as if chickens are completely worthless.
“Slavery is a form of forced labor in which people are considered to be the property of others. Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to receive compensation (such as wages). “ - wikipedia.

“They're trying to make the suggestion that the way we treat animals in live stock farms is no different from the way nazis treated jews” - actually, animals are treated worse in live stock farms and at a much much larger quantity. The holocaust was a horrible thing. We should learn from it.

What Penn goes to say after that is absolutely ridiculous. “Processing animals for food is not a pretty sight. But isn't that an aesthetic point and not a moral one?” Please watch the video for yourself and watch the footage they show of a live chicken being smashed into some machine for processing and tell me if that is not a moral point. Then he proceeds to ridicule every vegetarian/vegan by basically saying we-are-humans-and will-eat-chicken-if-we-so-please.

“Even if we gave animals rights, they'd end up in animal prison” - what the hell?

Setting a research lab on fire is probably not the nicest thing to do. At least not as nice as cute girls on a video talking about animal testing. But I do believe in extreme activism (to a certain extent). I think that the problem some people have with PETA is how extreme they can be, but how else are they gonna get people's attention? (besides maybe sex sells)

Ray Greek says: “..i thought they (PETA) supported violence” - then what do you call everything that PETA is trying to prevent?

The one thing I (sort of) agree with them is about Mary Beth Sweetland being hypocrite. But well, she is using insulin to survive, not to please her taste buds or some other random desire. Maybe if Bush wouldn't have restricted stem cell research so much, Mary Beth would have other options by now.

“Millions of people are alive today who wouldn't be because of animal research” - The problem here is... people. There's too many of them. That's exactly why animals have to suffer in the first place. Because it is economically impossible to supply all these people with all the animal products they enjoy without making the animals suffer. It is economically not possible for slaughter houses to treat animals humanely.

What got me about this video is how they try so hard to make something good look bad. And they do it simply with the purpose to sell their product – their show. Whether PETA makes mistakes or not, they do more good than bad in my opinion.

This video is so ridiculous that I'm even thinking whether Penn and Teller were just being completely sarcastic throughout the whole thing.

I think some of you need to go watch “Earthlings”. Go google it! NOW!

Animal testing is wrong, period!

A short list of procedures, cures, and vaccines obtained through animal research!

VACCINES- Anthrax, chicken pox, cholera, diphtheria, flu, influenza B, hepatitis A and B, measles, mumps, polio, rabies, rubella, smallpox, tetanus, whooping cough, yellow fever

MEDICATIONS- Insulin, penicillin, streptomycin, anti-inflammatory drugs, painkillers, anticoagulants, chemotherapy, cyclosporine

DEVICES- Pacemakers, artificial heart, artificial hip, artificial knee

PROCEDURES- Angioplasty, organ transplantation, heart transplantation, kidney transplantation, liver transplantation, corneal transplantation.

If the gripe is related to cosmetics testing then it should be made clear that there's a difference. I don't think animals need to suffer because of cosmetics but then I don't buy cosmetics...

i love all of you.... seriously...

PROTIP to people dogging on peta: it's not the organization that matters, it's what it stands for. i think this is right on, testing products on things that aren't going to go to a store and buy the product is bullshit. right on to SG for making this video and for PETA (yes, what they stand for, and not the organization it's self) just remember that anyone can do what PETA does, but not everyone will. and there are organizations out there that do shady things as well, only they're not even giving us a reason why or using animal rights to defend their reasons - i suggest you comment on all of them too.

aw SG is gonna break my heart (P

100% awesome.

as a point of fact (okay my cards on the table, speaking as a Jewish Vegan), regarding equating the holocaust to the farm factory industry, this is perhaps the most incendiary and difficult of all equations. Historically speaking, Germans came to Chicago's slaughterhouses for a reason to study the disassembly lines. The industrial revolution made killing efficient. Fascists learned from Ford and from the factory farm industry how to further develop the camps. It isn't that they are exactly the same, it's that there are historical connections. So yes, the assembly line and the disassembly line played vital roles in developing death camps for humans. Both disregard the intrinsic value of life, placing abstraction (be it ideology or "the bottom line") above all else. Whatever the case to the above, it's easy to stereotype PETA. I think it is straightforward: treat other beings with mercy. As for the (highly, highly selective) list of drugs that came from animal testing, this neither means it is scientifically the most effective method of scientific discovery, nor does it evidence that we cannot do without animal testing now or drastically reduce it. The scholarship suggests something very different in this area. My personal opinion is that animal cruelty or cruelty-free life is much like the "carbon footprint." Some are making substantial changes to reduce cruelty for ALL BEINGS, while others are not. The factory farm industry is responsible for being one of the primary contributors to climate change. People talk about not driving as much, but fail to even entertain this. The same goes with testing, companion animals (spay and neuter them!), working at a shelter, and yes, not eating flesh. One can reduce or be absolutist (in either direction). Animal testing is redundant, inefficient, and no longer necessary in most cases.

would you rather have your daughters eyes burned because of inadequate testing or by products from italy and elswhere who knows where manufactured Froggy

This was awesome! Thanks for speaking up for the animals.