Before I start here, I disagree with gun bans. I believe in licenseeing and registration. And just like with a car, where there is a different license between a motorcycle, a car, and a semi-truck, I think there should be different level of licenses between guns and how dangerous they are. This is neither unconstitutional, and if the licenseeing classes are cheap(ish) and readily available, will not prevent citizens from legally acquiring weapons. Registration will also greatly hinder weapons falling into the hands of criminals (its estimated that 40% of weapons used by criminals were straw purchases).

As for the Genocide comment...that's not actually as true as people think. Australia and some other countries have had massive gun control laws passed, and no Genocide. Meanwhile, in Nazi Germany, the Nazis were actually DEREGULATING the weapons to help arm the Aryan race for the coming genocide (post WWI and Treaty of Versailles, Germans weren't allowed to own any type of weapons).

You also mentioned evil people will still do evil. This is true. But, if you stab someone directly in the heart, they have at least a 40% chance of survival. You shoot someone, they have, at most, 20% survival. You can repeatedly bludgeon someone in the head and not kill them. You shoot them in the head, chances are slim they will survive. And that's one on one. The guy in China who attacked school children with a knife killed 0 children. No-one died. Because it was a knife. If it was a gun, they'd be dead.

But, for your questions:
1. You mean like malls, churches, school, and movie theaters? This is an easy question to answer. It has nothing to do with the lack of guns, and everything to do with the number of people. If you are trying to kill the most number of people, you don't go into the middle of the woods to shoot people, you need some place public.

2. I believe that statement is misleading. The worst shooting was the Newton, CT shooting, which does have some strict gun laws. But Virginia Tech shooting? Kip Kinkel's shooting in the 90s? If your statement is accurate (which there would have to be a large discussion as to what is considered "Strict" and what isn't), I think we'd see something like a 60-40 split, while your statement leads one to believe its like a 80-20 split.

3. What? You think we aren't upset about that? Why would you think that?

4. I wouldn't call Gun Registration and Licenseeing punishment.

5. There is a large difference between drugs and weapons. Again, I don't agree with bans, but drugs I can make at home. A large number of my friends brew beer in their own house. I don't associate with too many pot-smokers, but many of the ones I do grow from home. A number of those also grow shrooms. Meth labs in people's garages are not rare.
But how many of the people I know can manufacture a working projectile weapon? Let alone a high powered, semi-automatic, weapon?

I understand the passion with this subject from both sides. On the one hand you have a government that spends an obscene and inordinate amount of black departments. They spy on their own people, buy local police military harware, sonic weapons, APC's drones. Have fields of plastic coffins liners. This in no way inspires trust. I'm not Amercian but despite me liking Americans I can't say I'd want to live under your system of harsh anti-social capitalism. I don't blame people stocking up on guns and wanting to defend themselves. It seems like the government is playing a long game with very punitive consequences.

On the other hand you have nutters. Yes we have those fuckers in every country but America seems to have an inordinate amount. That said, the situation is being milked to disarm citizens. Ordinary people who enjoy firearms are being called gun nuts. Is someone who owns 10 bows and enjoys archery called a bow nut? Please don't give me a fucking arguement about how you can't hurt as many people with bows and arrows, that's bullshit. Antiquity tells us that many souls were sent to the void through the simple expedient of inserting a shaft of wood in their vitals at high speed. A well trained english longbowmen could loose six shots a minute against moving targets. That's fucking impressive even by todays standards.

So what's the answer, liscencing assualt rifles? Sure that's a start, and it helps keep track of the firearms in circulation. Will it help angry teens from breaking into a gun safe? Maybe not. Will it stop criminals from getting access to guns? Hell no! Will it reduce the guns currently in circulation? Again no. I like Chris Rock's take on gun control, each bullet costs $6000! Again funny but not the answer. Truth is there is no one answer.

Add to this volotile mix Fox & other news outlets stiring the hornets nest and creating a moral panic about every fucking Goddam issue in the country and adding another layer of pointless paranioa to an already stoked population (the 5th estate is objective dammit)! I could go on for a few extra paragraphs about how the rampant capitalism in your country is destroying local industry, creating unmeployment, depression, hopelessness and bitterness but hey, I'm not writing an essay called, 'America, How the corporations destroyed the American dream and left a nation seathing in unrest'. Truth is owning guns isn't itself a problem. The problem is all around us, a lack of respect for our fellow man. Our distrust of government. The constant negativity in the news. The general increase in the hardship of daily living. I don't think it's a case of punish the many for the sake of a few but effort to disarm the populace and create a precendent for large scale constitutional change which will have a roll on effect in the world. America, a police state control by a corporatocracy.

Um...all statistical data about cars shows otherwise. Since licensing and registration with cars, deaths by cars have dramatically dropped. This isn't to say they aren't non-existent, in fact they are still quite prevalent, but it has greatly reduced the rates it occurred. The same would probably happen with currently illegal drugs, if we just had licensed growers / registration to use them, there would be a legal way to acquire.

If Gun bans only cause genocides in third world countries, than we don't have to worry about a genocide in the US.

I use a knife every day. I have never stabbed someone. I use it to prepare food. I use to eat my food. I use it to cut wood. I use it for a hundred other things than hurt, maim, or destroy.
I rarely use a gun. When I do use a gun, the only intent I have with that gun is to destroy something. Whether that be a target or in hunting, the purpose of a gun is to destroy something.
If we compare the number of guns there are to the number of knives, bludgeons, and hands, as well as how often these items are used, we'll see that guns are used to kill significantly more than anything else.

Because of pat downs. Because they actually check to make sure the guns aren't brought in. Even if the guards aren't armed (I've been to many events where they aren't), the reason there aren't shootings is because they actually make sure no-one else has a weapon.
I do know some people who would suggest we have pat downs outside every school, mall, church, and other public event. But who pays for that? For a concert, show, or sporting event, its the event that pays for the security.

That's media. I think its BS that we aren't raising hooplah every time some one gets shot. But, when intelligent people argue for gun control, they don't just cite school shooting, they also site accidental deaths by weapons, they site gang violence, they site suicides, they site everything. It just comes up again and again after these tragedies because its brought to the forefront.

So we should never have laws. Ever.

Agreed we're on the same page.

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