Family Guy writer Matt Fleckenstein

Family Guy writer Matt Fleckenstein


When I first called in to talk to Matt Fleckenstein, someone answered the phone “Drake & Josh.” I got very excited because for some reason even though I’m 30 years old I am obsessed with that show. I think that both Drake Bell and Josh are enormously talented plus it’s created by Dan Schneider, the heavy set dude from Head of the Class!

When I got Matt Fleckenstein on the phone I quizzed him about working on Drake & Josh and Dan Schneider. But then we settled into what he hopes will be a regular gig, working on Family Guy. Currently Fleckenstein only has a few writing credits to his name when it comes to the Family Guy TV series but hopefully that will change. Right now he has the prime gig of writing the upcoming Family Guy comic book from Devil’s Due.

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Daniel Robert Epstein: Is your boss Dan Schneider?
Matt Fleckenstein: Yes he is. Do you know Dan?
DRE:
I don’t know Dan, I just know of his work. I could never work with him because he was on Head of the Class.
MF:
Not a Head of the Class fan?
DRE:
I am; that’s the reason. I interviewed Brian Robbins a few years ago and he could see it in my eyes how much I wanted to ask about Head of the Class. I could tell he doesn’t like talking about it [laughs].
MF:
[laughs] He wants to leave it in the past.
DRE:
[laughs] He’s moved on to being a huge, big time monstrous producer.
MF:
Yeah, exactly. That’s not a bad thing.
DRE:
I like Drake & Josh too.
MF:
Well good.
DRE:
For what it is, it is not for people my age. .
MF:
Exactly.
DRE:
I think Josh Peck has a huge amount of talent.
MF:
I agree. I had the same reaction when I first saw the show. It’s obviously a show written for tweens but it’s written so adults can enjoy it; which is great. The more I’m on it, the more I really enjoy it. Josh has a great future ahead of him.
DRE:
It’s amazing to me that a kid his age can be so influenced by someone like Jackie Gleason.
MF:
Yeah, absolutely.
DRE:
I’m glad that people that young recognize the greats.
MF:
It’s nice and it fits him because there’s really no one right now doing that kind of stuff.
DRE:
Definitely no one his age.

What’s your job over there?
MF:
I’m a staff writer.
DRE:
Do the writers on Nickelodeon shows get the same benefits as a network show?
MF:
We do, but only because Dan wanted it to be covered as a Writer’s Guild show. A lot of other Nick shows aren’t. We get the Writer’s Guild Insurance and all that great stuff. It’s a nice bonus.
DRE:
What’s Dan like?
MF:
Dan’s a really nice and great guy. He’s very open to everyone’s opinions and ideas but he’s also ridiculously talented. He’s had like five or six shows for Nick in the past ten years. He’s got Drake & Josh and Zoey 101 on right now, which are the number one and two shows.
DRE:
It’s wild how all these guys really turned their acting careers into amazingly monstrous and popular behind the scenes careers.
MF:
It just goes to show you that someone with some real talent is not just a one note kind of guy. Anyone that versatile is always going to succeed. That’s reassuring to me. Dan is working on doing a new show so hopefully if I can stay with him and always have a job that would be fantastic.
DRE:
They’re obviously loyal guys.
MF:
Which is great. Everyone here is great to work with. The hours are great and everything’s been so positive. It ends in two months though.
DRE:
The show is ending or it’s ending for you?
MF:
Both. This is the last season. We’ll be done at the end of March. So I’m looking for a job.
DRE:
I think you’re going to be ok.
MF:
I actually got really lucky. I started here when I was still the writer’s assistant for Family Guy. I had written an episode of Family Guy and they promised me they’d let me write another one in the spring. So once I’m done here, I get to go back there and do another episode.
DRE:
Oh that’s great.
MF:
It’s fantastic.
DRE:
Your name is not on the IMDB though.
MF:
Oh really? Fuckers.

So you’re a fan of Family Guy?
DRE:
I’m a huge fan. If you tell me the episode, I’ll remember it automatically.
MF:
Did you see the one where Brian went back to college and Peter and the guys formed their own A-Team?
DRE:
That’s a great one.
MF:
I wrote that one.
DRE:
That was really recent.
MF:
Yeah, it aired last November.
DRE:
So you wrote the episode, which means you originated the idea. Then it gets thrown around the writer’s room though, right?
MF:
Basically it was my turn to write a script. They do it in an order of hierarchy of the writers on the show. [Family Guy creator] Seth MacFarlane had the idea of Brian going back to college. There was probably five or six of us in the room and we talked about that and then we came up with the second story in the episode of The A-Team. Then we wrote out the story out together and I went off and wrote the first draft of it. Once I came back from the first draft, it was a collaborative effort again. So it starts out collaborative, it becomes singular and then it becomes collaborative. Then when you bring the script back in the writer’s room, that’s when people are throwing around jokes to help make it great.
DRE:
What made you think of The A-Team?
MF:
We were just looking for something fun for the guys to do together so we had the idea of them going to an 80’s TV show convention. Then it branched off from there.
DRE:
Is every writer there an expert on 80’s pop culture?
MF:
That really comes out of Seth. He’s a real pop culture guy and the 80’s was when he was most influenced by pop culture. So that’s where a lot of stuff is drawn from. It was great getting to see the guys as The A-Team driving around and destroying the town thinking they were doing good.
DRE:
How’d you get the gig at Family Guy in the first place?
MF:
I started as a production assistant there six years ago.
DRE:
How did you get that gig?
MF:
There’s this thing that floats in LA called the UTA job list. It’s this list of all these great jobs and I saw one that said “production assistant for primetime animated show.” I was hoping it was Family Guy so I sent my stuff in and nothing happened for a while. Then two months later I got a phone call to interview for Family Guy. I went in and the woman who interviewed me I knew from college.
DRE:
There you go.
MF:
That sealed the deal for me.
DRE:
What did you have in your portfolio or resume that impressed them?
MF:
Just a bunch of PA jobs, I was on a TV show called Rude Awakenings right before that. I probably had ten or so production assistant credits.
DRE:
Were you funny as a PA?
MF:
The biggest thing was that I had experience driving around town, dropping stuff off, using copy machines and that kind of crap. It’s not great but that’s what they were looking for and that’s what I had.
DRE:
Then you were Seth’s assistant, how did that lead to becoming a writer?
MF:
The woman who hired me knew I wanted to be a writer. So she told me that the path was to become his assistant and then the writer’s assistant. I lucked out because his assistant left town so he bumped me up to his assistant. Then we were in that weird gray zone where we weren’t sure if we were going to be picked up or canceled so they had to let the writer’s assistant go. So basically I was Seth’s assistant and then default writer’s assistant. Eventually I moved fully into writer’s assistant. So I lucked out twice.
DRE:
When I spoke to Steve, who used to be the writer’s assistant, he told me that he was able to toss out some jokes and finally one got on the air. Did you have those as well?
MF:
Yeah, absolutely. Every writer’s assistant wants to be a writer. In most writer’s rooms, people recognize that. Your primary job is to sit there and type and make sure you get everything down. But if there’s a lull and you have a joke you can throw it out and hope to God that they like it. I can’t think of an early joke I wrote but I remember one from a recent episode that aired. It was at Congress and we see that it is in session. At the top of the scene a congressman says, “Alright, so the motion carries, the janitor’s new name is Sweepy.” The joke is that they’re not voting on anything important, they’re voting for the janitor’s nickname.
DRE:
[laughs] That’s a great one.

How did writing the Family Guy comic book come about?
MF:
They went to Steve first but I think he was going to be working on another book and he just didn’t have time to do the comic books. So they talked to me and Seth’s current assistant. Seth’s assistant ended up doing something else so all three comic books fell into my lap. I was excited that Seth saw enough in me to give me that opportunity to do it.
DRE:
What are the comic books going to be exactly?
MF:
Basically the comic books are a hybrid between a traditional comic book and what Steve wrote with the guidebook [Family Guy: Stewie's Guide to World Domination]. 30 pages or so will be a Family Guy story. Then another ten or 12 pages interspersed throughout the comic book will be Stewie’s Hundred Ways to Kill Lois. Then the next is going to be a Peter guidebook and then Chris or Brian.
DRE:
I haven’t read The Simpsons comics in years but when I did read them I thought they were really bad.
MF:
I read those a while ago and I had the same reaction.
DRE:
Things that work on TV don’t always work in comic books like Family Guy’s famous for a million jokes per second.
MF:
The biggest thing was when I wrote a lot of the book and then found out that we can’t portray any celebrity likenesses. So we can’t take a random shot at a celebrity or spoof a show that’s on the air. Which is a lot of what Family Guy does, so that was the first hurdle to get across. But in the beginning it was hard because Family Guy’s famous for taking a joke and letting it go on for so long. I tried to do something like that and realized that three pages of working the same joke was a lot when there is only 42 pages. So it was difficult at first to get over those things but I really tried to keep a lot of what makes the show great. I tried to keep the very intense physical humor. I’ve maintained the cutaways to jokes and the flashbacks and movie and TV references as much as I could without portraying celebrities. But I guess people are just going to have to read it and see what they think.
DRE:
Do you know enough about the comic book industry to satirize it?
MF:
I know a little bit and obviously I’m learning more as I go along. I’ve heard people complaining about breaking up the comic with prose so I’m going to put a nod or two to that. Hopefully that will satiate some of those fans, calm it down a little bit and let them at least acknowledge that we know we’re not doing a traditional comic.
DRE:
Were you ever a comic fan?
MF:
I was a bit of one as a kid. But I never really got that into the world. With writing them I’ve really come to enjoy the process and the limitations. You have to restrict things to one panel, so you have to write things as clearly as possible. It has become loads of fun.
DRE:
How much is FOX going to be involved in the comics?
MF:
I turn in the script and that goes through publishing. They pass it on to FOX, and their standards chief and their legal people go through it. Creatively I know stuff is being passed to Seth. Before I wrote it I called him and went over the basic story just to make sure he was onboard with the story I wrote.
DRE:
Are you going to be expanding on anything that’s happening on the show?
MF:
It is pretty much all going to be stand alone stuff. That’s what Seth’s most comfortable with. I originally wanted to do things that I thought we would never and could never do on the show. I was going to take the three books and make it three acts of the show and in the first one everybody dies. Then we’d follow them through the afterlife when they’re stuck in purgatory or whatever. I had this whole thing mapped out and I talked to Seth and he said we would never do this on the show so I changed the story. But it’s all basically stand alone things. We’ll carry over certain jokes but it’s not going to advance anything.
DRE:
If you can’t change canon and you have to stick with the characters that have appeared on the show, this sounds like a very difficult assignment.
MF:
Yeah, it has been. I have to write three episodes and take out half of it to keep it in the panels but I can’t do anything drastic or crazy and make it as palatable for fans as possible. It has taken longer than I expected it to and I just pray to God it’s worth it.
DRE:
I see a lot of Family Guy stuff selling in places like Tower Records and Virgin Megastores. Are they going to try and market it outside of comic book stores?
MF:
Yeah, I think that’s what their goal is. After they publish all three issues they will collect it in a bound book. I know the original notion is that they want someone who is not a comic book fan to pick up this book. I’d love to do book signings like Steve’s been doing. He said it was a little weird at first, but also lots of fun.
DRE:
Obviously this is very early in your career; do you want to keep working in cartoons?
MF:
Well, first of all I’m 27.
DRE:
Oh you’re real young. Forget that question.
MF:
[laughs] I just want to work, man. I want to have a job.

But I’ve actually been lucky enough to work on all different kinds of shows and I love it all. I would love to go back to Family Guy. But I would also love to do live action. I wrote a pilot last year that was live action. For TV I like doing comedy no MFer what form it’s in.
DRE:
What do you guys think of the pot shots The Simpsons has taken at Family Guy?
MF:
We took a couple as well but that was about it. It really never bothered anybody. It’s all just been seen as rivalry and I think a little jealousy. Their ratings and popularity are dropping a little bit. With our show, clearly the fans spoke up and really loved the show. I know that Seth talked to some of the people over there and they say it’s all in good fun so that’s how we’re taking it.
DRE:
I spoke with The Simpsons’ showrunner, Al Jean, and he told me that he’s not a big fan of Family Guy.
MF:
[laughs] Nice.
DRE:
But I spoke to his former writing partner Mike Reiss.
MF:
He loves it, right?
DRE:
He does.
MF:
I think Seth talked to Mike and he said how much he liked the show. I think it’s great that the pot shots from both sides get people talking about the show.
DRE:
Where’d you grow up?
MF:
I grew up in Buffalo, New York.
DRE:
Where’d you go to school?
MF:
I went to Syracuse University.
DRE:
What did you study there?
MF:
I was at the communications school. TV, radio and film, focused on writing.
DRE:
What made you want to go into film in the first place?
MF:
It was comedy. When my brother and I were growing up we were always shooting stuff with our friends with our parents’ camcorders. My brother and I loved Naked Gun so we did this Naked Gun spoof trilogy, cleverly titled The Clothed Bullet. We would put on my Dad’s old suits and fight on the roof. We loved doing it and then I realized I could do it as a career. So I went to college and here I am now. I came out to LA with a woman who is now my wife. We have 15 month old son and another coming at the end of May.
DRE:
When do you find out about your Family Guy TV show writing gig?
MF:
I’m done at Drake & Josh here in the middle of March. I’m actually going to talk to producers this week. I’m definitely going to write another episode of Family Guy, probably in April. Then from there I’m hoping they will bring me on full time.

by Daniel Robert Epstein

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