SuicideGirl: Phoenix
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Phoenix I want all of my cells to touch all of your cells.

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MARCH 4, 2010 @ 12:00 PM


So much of my life is based on observation, contemplation, analysis. It is all bound up in what I experience physically. The fact that I keep my eyes trained on this, especially in my artwork, just perpetuates the cycle. What are our minds meant for? There seems to be a consensus that the mind tends to get in the way of true awareness, compassion, blissful existence. So perhaps it was meant for dreaming, creating, expanding the universe beyond what we have touched, concerning itself with things that the body does not already know. I know this is not a novel concept. Reading Ken Wilbur after watching Carl Sagan brings about some very interesting thoughts!

Is it possible to make artwork that is not coded with the everyday? I want to create using an entirely new vocabulary. Art that comes directly from the stream of consciousness before it touches the World, like catching snowflakes before they melt into the ground.

Perhaps, the point is not to create something that is totally alien in it's newness but something that, upon first glance, inspires an epiphany in it's viewer. Rather than reinforcing some earthbound bodily concept, it actually halts all sense of physical awareness to hold the viewer in a senseless state of experience. I wonder if it's possible to do that with my portraiture so that the viewer actually steps into a different awareness. I wonder if it simply all depends on the viewer...
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S_Eldorado

S_Eldorado

Vancouver, BC
December 2004

MAR 04, 2010 12:24 PM

I think it's both possible and, like so many things, dependent on the viewer.

Beautifully written. I think about this musically quite often.

tilpacer

tilpacer

Calgary, AB
December 2005

MAR 04, 2010 03:41 PM

I don't want to pessimist, but I don't think is possible to create a piece of artwork that will inspire anyone who looked at it. What you are talking about reminds me of hypnosis. It is possible to hypnotize any person, but not every person is going to be hypnotized with the same technique. It is because everyone brain works differently and that we all think in different manners. Some of us even perceive things differently, like the color blind.

Though I think it is possible to inspire epiphany from artwork, I don't think there is a piece that will universally inspire. Who knows, maybe you have already created a piece that has inspired someone else already.

talamia

talamia

South Africa
July 2008

MAR 04, 2010 04:01 PM

It's as if you are echoing parts of my own subconscious...!

superchibisan

superchibisan

Denver, CO
December 2007

MAR 04, 2010 04:28 PM

"I don't think is possible to create a piece of artwork that will inspire anyone who looked at it."

"Though I think it is possible to inspire epiphany from artwork"

?

Glitch

Glitch

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

MAR 04, 2010 07:08 PM

That is what I want from art...true uniqueness in something not created before...I used to think the mind needed to be quiet, but the more & more I learn, the more I think that is what we shouldn't do.

S_Eldorado

S_Eldorado

Vancouver, BC
December 2004

MAR 04, 2010 09:05 PM

Not just influencing people - that's just the base goal of music, to communicate an emotion or idea. What I meant was I like what you're saying about creating something completely new and not rooted in the corporeal or mundane.

The irony is that people are rarely, if ever, ready for that. It's been proven time and again that people need at least a little familiarity in order to process something new. We relate to every idea contextually. It's part of how we function. That's why when people first heard Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, they rioted. No-one had ever heard anything remotely like it. They thought it was the work of the devil.

Now it's an inextricable ancestor of modern orchestration - especially in film.

That said, the romantic in me believes it's possible to to tap into something that we don't have a worldly precedent for but rather an internal, universal and infinite precedent. That we open the door to the universe every-time you raise your brush or I write a note - even if only just a little.

I think that's why I love dreams so much.

Turbulence

Turbulence

Austria
November 2005

MAR 05, 2010 06:38 AM

i'm not sure it's always possible. cause as you say your mind has always echoes of everything you experienced while you do something new. but i'm sure it should be a goal and with strong awareness it's possible and should be done smile

Tita

Tita

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

MAR 05, 2010 03:11 PM

Our SG party is confirmed for Shine on March 27th. Save the date! I'm hoping to get the whole gang out...

Choplogik

Choplogik

Canada
November 2009

MAR 05, 2010 07:46 PM

I can't quite synthesize our entire conversation, but this idea remains intriguing:

In striving to create art that conjures an epiphany in all people, the most fundamental must be touched upon. This is a very worthy goal, as one amazing aspect of art is it's common ground- two people may not communicate verbally due to language barriers, but a picture can express clear ideas + emotions. If we're trying to communicate with as much transparency as possible, well, we can't use symbols, because they can be interpreted differently by different people + cultures. Emotions are universal, and you're on the right track as the human face is one of the most effective surfaces for recognizable emotion to arise. It seems what you want to draw is the Original face, one that encompasses all (isn't compartmentalized by being male/female, old/young). I wonder what it would look like? What epiphany would you like the viewer to have? What feeling?

We talked about a series of faces mid-orgasm, and how that would be like someone pointing at the moon, and use focusing on the finger. Let's go deeper, find the ultimate basic expression, and shine a light on it.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

MAR 06, 2010 09:01 AM

Abstract expressionism and improvisation in music,,,, maybe.........

BellyJack

BellyJack

I'm lost
May 2005

MAR 08, 2010 02:36 AM

I don't know if this works for art, but in other realms it can be instructive to carefully study extremes in search of the middle ground. What historical art examples are considered most nearly universal in their message, and which ones cannot be fully understood without considering their time and place of composition?

I've often mused on musical scales, the golden ratio, and other geometrical and numerical relationships that manifest themselves in art and nature, and wondered why should this be so.

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