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MAY 4, 2004 @ 03:14 PM

Well some of you may have seen this already, some of you may not have.....

The other day I was having a GREAT night...hanging out with my best friend in the whole world, we were working on a project together, making each other laugh, talking about stuff, when someone sent us a link on the computer. We opened it and what I saw made me so furious that it ruined my enitre night. What was it you ask? the most degrading, pictures of United States soldiers raping and degrading Iraqi prisoners.
I dont care who is who, what is what, who has power, but these are simply humans degrading other humans(I'm not even going to go into my anti-war status)....and on the radio this moring I actually heard people saying this was OK??!??!!? What the fuck!!!! saying it was ok for american soldiers to do this to these people????!?!?! Im sorry but I really need to fucking move out of this country if that is the general consensus. No pro-war anyone is going to convince me that things like this are OK. It does make me feel better to know that the people responsible for this are being prosecuted and not just given a slap on the ass and a "Dont do it again"....

...also I do have to mention that there is talk of the last few images being touched up or fake, it is only speculation and may still be legit, but because there is even just word of it I thought i should bring that up and it is certain that the first few are very very real.

Liberators or Monsters? The sickening effects of militarism on human beings, as reported by CBS's 60 Minutes. NOT for the faint of heart, but too horrifying to ignore.

Truely Horrified,
James

ps...the link sometime for me is slow, it works but takes a while, I think because they are getting so many hits.


pps. for something more uplifting i put two new pics in my folders...one of a shirt i made today and a good shot of my in progress sleeve, and one of something that came in the mail today!! (in seperate folders.)
looking at those is better than looking at that other shit....even though I felt i should make it available to peeps who havent seen it yet....

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Onisean

Onisean

Torrance, CA
November 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:35 PM

yea thats some fucked up shit. i mean war is war but thats just plain being mean and hateful.

and you seems like a very cool person

vikingwolfe

vikingwolfe

I'm lost
November 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:45 PM

On the flip-side...
http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=1840&mode=thread&order=0

... I am sure that the civilians whose bodies were mutilated after being burnt would feel the same...

Gunny
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LucaBrasi

LucaBrasi

Palo Alto, CA
September 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:56 PM

I'm with you on the war thing. And look who fucked it all up... Mr. President. The best we can do with this war is get out of it in as good of a position as we were in BEFORE it started, and I personally think that's a snowballs chance in hell. "Operation Iraqi Freedom" is a tasteless joke. WMD's were a president's excuse to finish what his dad started. No matter what happens, nothing will bring back the American soldiers or the Iraqi's killed in this holy war, and for what?

blinding3rdEye

blinding3rdEye

I'm lost
February 2003

MAY 04, 2004 04:04 PM

What ever happened to Humanitarianism?? I'm very emberaced and ashamed to be an American for idiocracy like this!

blinding3rdEye

blinding3rdEye

I'm lost
February 2003

MAY 04, 2004 04:12 PM

oh James, I'm really sorry I kind of ditched you on IM yesterday. I didn't mean to. I really wanted to talk, but my ride showed up and I had to leave right then. But, I was listening to waht you were saying and I had some thoughts on the subject. So if you see me on IM, hit me up!

stiggy56

stiggy56

Philadelphia, PA
March 2004

MAY 04, 2004 04:25 PM

With the way things are going in the world today, suicide bombing, pigs blood in a bag being put on public transit to prevent someone from blowing themselves up on it, Rap and using schools and humans shield to fight behind. Viruses! People hating people for skin color!

We need to reevaluate what qualifies as INSANITY!!! mad

obd

obd

Venice, CA
June 2003

MAY 04, 2004 05:48 PM

I got an error forbidden message. I'm not sure I actually need to see the photos.

Other infuriating revelations:
This has been under investigation for over two monthes, but aparently neither Secretary Rumsfeld or General Richard B. Myers [chairman of the joint chiefs of staff] have read the damn report yet. Even though they were going on the Sunday news shows to speak about the damn issue!

I heard someone on the radio equate this to fraternity or athletic team hazing. Thankfully, one of the other panelists called him on it, refering to the comment as,"idiotic." Changing the context does not make the action right.

I'd source [npr in both cases] better, but I need to run.

Onisean

Onisean

Torrance, CA
November 2003

MAY 04, 2004 06:16 PM

biggrin

Silas_Salvation

Silas_Salvation

Berkeley, CA
January 2003

MAY 04, 2004 08:17 PM

i thought we were trying to free these people from fear not smother them in it. EL SUICIDO LOCO

legionnaire

legionnaire

United Kingdom
November 2003

MAY 04, 2004 10:49 PM

The sleeve looks great, congrats. I hope it's healing well.

As for the Iraqi prisoners... yeah, it's disgusting. I think it should be the final straw in the argument against ever having gone to war in the first place - that shit is on par with what Hussein was doing before we got there. Hardly noble liberators. However - despite the few crazies you might hear on the radio, I don't think you'll find a whole lot of people sticking up for the assholes who did that. Even Bush has spoken out against them.

G_Money

G_Money

I'm lost
January 2004

MAY 05, 2004 12:58 AM

I'm not even against the war in Iraq and I still completely agree that the sick individuals that tortured those poor Iraqi prisoner's should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It's really sad that they have to be associated and grouped together as US military peeps cause there are plenty of US military people out there that think what they did was completely fucked up, and people like this were sick in the head to begin with and should never have been let in the military. Either way good riddance to those sick-o's and i hope they get life....peace

rottenart

rottenart

Norman, OK
February 2004

MAY 05, 2004 03:04 AM

please don't go look at the CE boards, cuz they're sure to piss you off even further. you are such a fragile angel! your tats look superb, you have compassion, you have strong convictions. if you'd smoke a joint and drink a beer with me, i'd marry you! wink

seriously. i know exactly how you feel. i've been battling over there on those boards for a more understanding society, which is something i'm sure you can jibe with. i think you and i would get along great. we seem to have a lot of the same ideas, even if we don't implement them in the same ways. live and let live, you know.

try not to let the bastards get you down, luv...
love love

longtimecoming

longtimecoming

Albania
November 2003

MAY 05, 2004 06:43 AM

Don't worry the majority of the country does not feel the way those caller do. They specificly let those callers through to help thier rating. wink ARRR!!! your cute love

miss_magenta

miss_magenta

I'm lost
July 2002

MAY 05, 2004 08:47 AM

thank you for the beautiful flower sweetheart! blush kiss

ArgentumBlack

ArgentumBlack

Lincoln, NE
March 2004

MAY 05, 2004 11:04 AM

Mongoloids like those soldiers make me want to throw things. mad

Those are some kick ass sleeves. Someday I will be a tattoed straight edge hotness like you......

... with the penis of course. wink love kiss

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