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MissyMalice

MissyMalice

USA
May 2010

DEC 20, 2010 12:24 PM

confused oh, dear...

Bellica

Bellica

Mexico
February 2007

DEC 20, 2010 01:13 PM

Well, all I can say is you speak English a lot better than a lot of people I know who are not native speakers and I've talked to you on real time lady! tongue

Bellica

Bellica

Mexico
February 2007

DEC 20, 2010 01:14 PM

whatswrong said:
Here's a brief lesson on how to score drugs using proper English.

Let's say you would like purchase a small amount of cocaine. You would say "Excuse me, may I please procure some illegal cocaine from you." At that point the drug dealer will most likely point a gun at you, this is when you would say, "Sir, that is incredible rude of you."

Now let's say you would like to offer up your body in exchange for some methamphetamines. You would say "Hello, I would like to offer you my cunt in exchange for your goods; more specifically, a gram of hillbilly junk". During the business transaction you'll need to reassure your business partner of this mutual enterprise by saying the following, "You are doing very well, I am pleased with what is happening" or "Please continue, this is exactly how I imagined my life would turn out".



surreal

Rivera

Rivera

USA
June 2008

DEC 20, 2010 02:04 PM

what? that was very informative. shocked

whatswrong

whatswrong

Massillon, OH
February 2009

DEC 20, 2010 02:10 PM

Tough crowd

Rivera

Rivera

USA
June 2008

DEC 20, 2010 02:11 PM

i liked it. ooo aaa

StrongDar

StrongDar

USA
April 2010

DEC 20, 2010 02:29 PM

Rokko said:
Which is correct? I still can't get the point of difference between HOW and WHAT.
• How it'll taste like
• What it'll taste like

• how I've been thinking of him
• what I've been thinking of him

If both make sense, I'd love to know how different between them.

Thank you, teachers! smile




• How it'll taste like
• What it'll taste like

In this case, they can be the same and people would understand what you mean.

'What" usually means a person has no idea about something because they've never tried it and have no familiarity with it. "What is your name?" implies you know nothing about the person and have to ask a basic question.

You would not say, "How is your name?".

"How" implies a style or method of the way something is done or the way that something acts.


Examples of correct usages:

"What is your name?"
"What age are you?"
"How old are you?"
"How was your day?"
"What day is it today?"
"How are you?"



Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 20, 2010 09:15 PM

wow! wow!
I didn't expect that I could have lots of posts from people. I'll read all the posts later when I come home.
I have to spend all day in a clinic today. frown

I guess I can get the point what I wanted to know.

Then now, the word WORRY is my worry.
* I worry about you
* I'm worried about you
WORRY is working as intransitive verb and transitive verb, isn't it?
What's the point or tip for knowing as the situation demands, using I WORRY or I'm WORRIED.

If I say or write someone that "I worry about you", does it sound strange?
"I'm worried about you" is more popular way to say? Actually, I don't think I ever heard someone saying "I worry about you". But I don't remember when or where, but I read "I worry his baby", then I started wondering "why it's not I'm worried about his baby???..."

While talking to my friends or writing to my friends, when they know I'm not talking English correctly, they never point. I usually ask my friends to stop the conversation and point+correct my mis-usage when they know or find my mistake. But nobody does. They are not teachers, so they prefer keep talking because they don't want to cut or break our conversation. Sometimes, friends who are learning Japanese ask me the same thing. But as long as I can understand, while we are talking, I do not stop a conversation to correct his/her Japanese very often. So I can understand and I don't expect friends I hang out in my real life to correct my bad.

Well, I have to go to the next exam now.
Talk to you soon, lovelies!!! smile

Squinty

Squinty

Philadelphia, PA
June 2007

DEC 20, 2010 09:35 PM

I think the clearest difference between "I worry" and "I'm worried" is that "I worry" implies "I worry about you sometimes," or on and off, or in general as a status quo, whereas "I am worried about you" implies "I am worried about you now." If someone is late getting home, you'd say "I'm worried." If you say "I worry," you might be worried now, but you're also referring to some other time in the past. It's less immediate.

When it's used transitively, it means to make someone else worry. So "I worry his baby" means I cause his baby to worry. smile

Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 21, 2010 07:27 AM

I haven't looked at all the posts yet, I am sorry.
I haven't eaten anything almost for 80 hours, and I feel so sick.

I'll try to read your posts tomorrow afternoon when I come home from a clinic. smile
I really appreciate you all! kiss

Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 22, 2010 12:09 AM

Squinty said:
I think the clearest difference between "I worry" and "I'm worried" is that "I worry" implies "I worry about you sometimes," or on and off, or in general as a status quo, whereas "I am worried about you" implies "I am worried about you now." If someone is late getting home, you'd say "I'm worried." If you say "I worry," you might be worried now, but you're also referring to some other time in the past. It's less immediate.

When it's used transitively, it means to make someone else worry. So "I worry his baby" means I cause his baby to worry. smile


Thank you so much for your detailed explanation!! smile
I think I've got a point and a tip when I used WORRY next time.

But, when the subject is second person or third person, would it be the usage same, too? I know it might differ depends on what kind of word places on object, like person, conceptualistic thing or such. There are so many things which people worry about, like money, life, friend, mom, dad, exams, health, expiration date of food in refridge, or so. Depends on them, WORRY's usage would be present form or past participle? Or would it change with your mood when you talk?

I'm afraid I make you wasting your time because of my inconsequential question? whatever

Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 27, 2010 08:28 AM

whatswrong said:
Here's a brief lesson on how to score drugs using proper English.

Let's say you would like purchase a small amount of cocaine. You would say "Excuse me, may I please procure some illegal cocaine from you." At that point the drug dealer will most likely point a gun at you, this is when you would say, "Sir, that is incredible rude of you."

Now let's say you would like to offer up your body in exchange for some methamphetamines. You would say "Hello, I would like to offer you my cunt in exchange for your goods; more specifically, a gram of hillbilly junk". During the business transaction you'll need to reassure your business partner of this mutual enterprise by saying the following, "You are doing very well, I am pleased with what is happening" or "Please continue, this is exactly how I imagined my life would turn out".


Thank you so much for your clear and concise text as an example.
If some people whose English level is a little bit lower than mine read your text, they might be getting confused or wondering what it was about. But, luckily, when I read the second and third lines, I could soon know that you enjoyed bringing me and my poor English ability into ridicule, but it is okay. I've got used to be treated as silly Japanese who can't understand English for a long time. smile

Yes, I can tell your text was so clear and concise, because it was pretty intelligible even to me! smile But unfortunately, I don't think I'll use most of phrases you taught me in future. It's with regret that I won't be able to leverage your text to full advantage.

Thank you so much, anyways! smile

AlienSheep

AlienSheep

La Quinta, CA
August 2008

DEC 27, 2010 09:27 AM

Rokko said:

I'm afraid I make you wasting your time because of my inconsequential question? whatever



This should read "I'm afraid I waste your time because of..." or "I'm afraid I may be wasting your time because of..." smile

Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 27, 2010 04:30 PM

AlienSheep said:
This should read "I'm afraid I waste your time because of..." or "I'm afraid I may be wasting your time because of..." smile


This is what I really know!!!
And also an usage of I'm afraid, too.
I'm off to the clinic, so I'll be online in 2 and half hours or so. I'll tell you how bad English lessons in Japanese school is. smile


Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 27, 2010 09:36 PM

I'm back. smile

About a word AFRAID, you would have to take issue with that how worse we, Japanese have learned about usages of afraid. When I was in junior high, teachers didn't give us very few usage examples of afraid.

* be + afraid of
* be + afraid to
* be + afraid not
* be + afraid so

These are all my teachers taught me. Before I started learning English in school (at that time, we first started learning English at 7th grade, 12y/o), my dad kept sending me many girls magazines like seventeen, and pop music magazine, Billboard, or cooking magazines from the States (He worked in DC for 4-5 years when I was a kid). When my parents gave me my very first English-Japanese dictionary when I was 8, but they never forced me to learn or study. I did not understand how far or where he exactly was living even I looked at a globe or a world map. Anyways, I was immediately interested in something which seemed like hieroglyphic for me at the age of 7 or 8. So I had some knowledges about English when English lesson started in school.

Then I asked my teacher about other usages of afraid, but she told me that these 4 usages were all, and she kept telling me to remember just these 4.

After the class, I went to her room, and asked her again, if there was some other usage, like !I'm afraid that ----" , "feel afraid" or so. But she said "if you use afraid, there has to be be-verb before afraid." and she never wanted to talk about the word afraid with me anymore.

That's why there are thousands of people(including me) who can't progress their abilities to understand or communicate in English. Do it by the book!, that's what I learned in school.

Rokko

Rokko

Japan
September 2007

DEC 27, 2010 10:09 PM

AlienSheep said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Rokko said:I'm afraid I make you wasting your time because of my inconsequential question? whatever

This should read "I'm afraid I waste your time because of..." or "I'm afraid I may be wasting your time because of..." smile


This is one of my big issue I'll be struggling till I die.
* may
* might
* would (I think I can understand the usage of *will* . I hope so)
* should

About may, I only can use like "May I talk to her?" or "May I smoke?"(I don't smoke at all). If someone asks me something, and I don't think there's only 50% possibility for making it, I'd say "I may do".

"May shows 50% of assuredness, and in the States, might is generally-preferred than may", this description on my dictionary is correct?

mkayal

mkayal

USA
October 2010

JAN 12, 2011 09:40 AM

Rokko said:

AlienSheep said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Rokko said:I'm afraid I make you wasting your time because of my inconsequential question? whatever

This should read "I'm afraid I waste your time because of..." or "I'm afraid I may be wasting your time because of..." smile


This is one of my big issue I'll be struggling till I die.
* may
* might
* would (I think I can understand the usage of *will* . I hope so)
* should

About may, I only can use like "May I talk to her?" or "May I smoke?"(I don't smoke at all). If someone asks me something, and I don't think there's only 50% possibility for making it, I'd say "I may do".

"May shows 50% of assuredness, and in the States, might is generally-preferred than may", this description on my dictionary is correct?


may is a word you use when you want something. it has a more positive, glass half full connotation. Might on the other hand has a negative connotation mostly. To use your example:

a. May I smoke? - is a polite way of saying that it's expected you can smoke.

b. Might I be allowed to smoke? - Note that I had to add in the be allowed. You could say "might I smoke" but it's not as smooth.

when it comes to english, a lot of words are interchangeable so it usually comes down to is how successful you are at getting your point across smoothly.

hope this helps a little

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