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cthulhu

cthulhu

Miami Beach, FL
April 2008

MAY 27, 2008 09:03 AM

LSlice said:

cthulhu said:
Women are like trying to hold on to a handful of sand or like having a glass of water almost full to the brim and then attempting to walk a tight rope while there is a devious monkey shaking it furiously under your feet.

The sand metaphor is simple:
You grasp it too tight and the sand grains squeeze out of any little open crevice. The grasp it too loosely and the wind steadily blows the sand away.

The tightrope metaphor is a bit more complex:
In a nutshell, it's a balancing act. Sometimes they want you to sway to the left, sway to the right, stand still, advance, take a step back, take a step forward, rush ahead, slow your pace, stay steady. They expect you to spill some of the water as long as you apologize for the loss and the mistake, but the glass cup must remained filled as best you can at all costs!!!!! Oh yeah, the monkey at the end is the monthly cleansing.....BEWARE!!!!!!!!

On a serious note: Women deal with emotions much more than men do. It's just the way we're made up due to estrogen and testosterone levels. Guys are basic for the most part, FUCK, EAT,SHIT, SLEEP, REPEAT. Anything inbetween is just distraction from the five elements. Women on the other hand, sometimes want to be dominated, sometimes want to be domineering, sometimes want sensitivity and sometimes wants a guy to man up and handle the situation. Read the moods and make your moves accordingly. Sometimes "nice", sometimes "asshole"(with the right intentions).


-Cthulhu




I disagree completely. I think men and women both experience a profund range of emotions. It's just that there are cultural stereotypes that men feel they must abide by, so they're not as inclined to demonstrate their emotions.



Men feel emotions just as much as women do, but we tend to stifle them, just as you said, due to our upbringing. I know, as far as I'm concerned, there is a time and place for any type of emotion. Women just tend to show it more freely because it is acceptable in american society.

All that said, we still basically want those simple things. FUCK, EAT, SHIT, SLEEP, REPEAT.

-Cthulhu

Carmelita

Carmelita

SUICIDEGIRL

New Jersey, USA

JUN 06, 2008 02:45 PM

I LOVE ASSHOLE.

Eaxyz

Eaxyz

San Mateo, CA
January 2007

JUN 07, 2008 09:51 PM

Girls like me and im an asshole, so...

Veronika

Veronika

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

JUN 07, 2008 10:04 PM

I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love

cpkz

cpkz

Portland, OR
September 2006

JUN 07, 2008 10:39 PM

Veronika said:
I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love



I think "as well as have a spine" is where a lot of good guys start going wrong. Its one thing to be a nice guy who can make decisions and occasionally lead, its another thing to the "Door mat" nice guy where all you are trying to do is please.

Veronika

Veronika

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

JUN 07, 2008 11:37 PM

cpkz said:

Veronika said:
I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love



I think "as well as have a spine" is where a lot of good guys start going wrong. Its one thing to be a nice guy who can make decisions and occasionally lead, its another thing to the "Door mat" nice guy where all you are trying to do is please.



I totally agree!

Gadget

Gadget

SUICIDEGIRL

New Hampshire, USA

JUN 07, 2008 11:44 PM

exactly. guys like that are self pitying saps. That combined with being spineless and having low self esteem does not = a nice guy. There is a reason why girls find men that are assholes more attractive. It's the take charge attitude. Like Veronika, give me a nice considerate man with a spine, with a sense of humor and a sense of directions and I've struck gold. It's really not that hard of a thing to wrap your mind around.

Also, I think woman fall for assholes for the reason that I said above - and lets not forget the getting to know you front most people put on... then they stay because they think they can change them, they have hope because of how things started out... make sense?

Eaxyz

Eaxyz

San Mateo, CA
January 2007

JUN 08, 2008 06:41 AM

Gadget said:
exactly. guys like that are self pitying saps. That combined with being spineless and having low self esteem does not = a nice guy. There is a reason why girls find men that are assholes more attractive. It's the take charge attitude. Like Veronika, give me a nice considerate man with a spine, with a sense of humor and a sense of directions and I've struck gold. It's really not that hard of a thing to wrap your mind around.

Also, I think woman fall for assholes for the reason that I said above - and lets not forget the getting to know you front most people put on... then they stay because they think they can change them, they have hope because of how things started out... make sense?



only a little. I was born a nice guy but then fell for too many girls when i was younger that walked all over me, i had to become an asshole just to protect myself. Also, most of us have a little more confidence then nice guys and i hear that the ladies are into that confidence thing.

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

JUN 08, 2008 07:37 PM

This thread is not what I expected. It's what I dreaded.

Salome

Salome

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUN 08, 2008 08:21 PM


Roethke said:
I like men who don't blame their own inadequacies on generalizations and stereotypes.

Self pity is definitely not an aphrodisiac.



Just sayin'.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUN 08, 2008 10:23 PM

cthulhu said:
All that said, we I still basically want those simple things. FUCK, EAT, SHIT, SLEEP, REPEAT.

-Cthulhu



Don't speak for all men.

Considering you and i have never had a personal conversation, i am quite sure you have no fucking clue what i want out of a relationship or out of a woman.

I'd like to have a conversation with a girl that actually understands what she is thinking and confident in her opinions. When i talk to a girl and look into her eyes and just see air and the back of the inside of her head, it's an instantaneous turn off. I don't care how good looking they are. You have to figure that if your with someone for looks alone, eventually you are going to age to the point where sex isn't plausible, and the only thing left is good conversation.

While you're life revolves around your penis and your asshole, mine doesn't. Theres this organ called a brain that i am quite fond of utilizing. I am an educated person that likes to get involved in educated conversations. They don't always have to be educated conversations, the random talk about what happened when you pooped conversation is perfectly fine with me, but for the most part i would like to be with a girl that has the drive and determination to constantly improve herself.

So here is what i want. I want a girl that challenges me intellectually. I want a girl that can think on her feet, i want a girl that shows compassion, that cares about other living things, spontaneity is a major attraction, i want a girl that recognizes her flaws, admits them and strives to change them and become a better person, i want a girl that can help me become a better person, i want a girl that isn't afraid to tell me her opinion, even if it doesn't agree with mine and on that same note i want a girl thats willing to discuss and compromise rather than ignore our differences, i want a girl that is willing to say "hey let's go do this" rather than me having to make the decisions all the time.

So while you have pretty much displayed that you know little to nothing about women by making broad generalizations and you have also displayed the fact that you think you can speak for all men by making broad generalizations. There is more to me than a mouth to eat, a dick to use to fuck, an asshole to shit and my sleeping patterns.

I am nice to the people that deserve me being nice to them, if you choose to be an asshole to me or my friends, i won't strike back with violence, i won't have words with you, i will blatantly ignore you as if you don't exist on my planet, because for what it's worth, you don't.



joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

JUN 08, 2008 10:28 PM

cthulhu said:
All that said, we still basically want those simple things. FUCK, EAT, SHIT, SLEEP, REPEAT.

-Cthulhu



Abraham Maslow, he disagrees with you.

ridenasty

ridenasty

Stilwell, KS
April 2005

JUN 10, 2008 08:03 PM

Veronika said:
I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love



i wish there that more women like you were to be found.

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUN 10, 2008 10:10 PM

ridenasty said:

Veronika said:
I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love



i wish there that more women like you were to be found.



You hang in there, ridenasty. Just keep being a nice guy and I'm sure you'll find the girl for you...ridenasty.

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

JUN 10, 2008 10:22 PM

unravled said:

ridenasty said:

Veronika said:
I have a thing for nice guys. Call me crazy but if you will open the door for me, are considerate, as well as have a spine? Yum smile Throw in some brains and I am a very happy girl love



i wish there that more women like you were to be found.



You hang in there, ridenasty. Just keep being a nice guy and I'm sure you'll find the girl for you...ridenasty.



Sly.

two_windmills

two_windmills

Beaverton, OR
June 2008

JUN 28, 2008 05:00 PM

not for me... especially when it's sticky from shit.
if it were clean, surreee, but when does that ever happen. the ass is better than the asshole to me.

nate8d

nate8d

Corona, CA
June 2008

JUN 30, 2008 03:07 AM

Gadget said:
exactly. guys like that are self pitying saps. That combined with being spineless and having low self esteem does not = a nice guy. There is a reason why girls find men that are assholes more attractive. It's the take charge attitude. Like Veronika, give me a nice considerate man with a spine, with a sense of humor and a sense of directions and I've struck gold. It's really not that hard of a thing to wrap your mind around.

Also, I think woman fall for assholes for the reason that I said above - and lets not forget the getting to know you front most people put on... then they stay because they think they can change them, they have hope because of how things started out... make sense?



That's a very mindful post. I likes it.

gutterpunk4u

gutterpunk4u

Pewaukee, WI
May 2004

JUL 02, 2008 04:13 AM

you know, i feel like i have to say a little something. I was a self-pitying "nice guy" who decided to eventually act like an asshole to get girls. It worked, to a point. but you're never going to be really happy until you realize that if someone doesn't like you for who you actually are, you're going to be playacting a role your whole life. one day you wake up hating the person you're laying next to and wondering how you got there in the first place. Since then I've just quit the acting and I am just myself. you find what's good and interesting about your life and what your passions are and share them with other people. If you're lucky you'll find a lady who actually likes some of the things you're passionate about.

it also doesn't hurt if you can make a girl laugh.

good luck, but it takes a real rock bottom to change behavior some times. just don't get discouraged and be yourselves ok?

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUL 02, 2008 07:16 AM

guys, i allow people--women especially--to walk all over me, and never actually voice my thoughts or feelings except on an internet forum. why doesn't some hot chick magically notice me, even though i spend a lot of energy trying to not be noticed, and intuitively understand what a great guy i am? why don't they just come to me, why do i have to risk something by going out, meeting people, and getting to know them?

most of the 'assholes' that girls date aren't actually assholes. oh, there are certainly a few, but most of the time, the 'assholes' are just guys who know what they want and know how to ask for it. the only reason you think they're an asshole is, they stole your girl.

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