i love this friend/coworker, but i am a dumbass

This makes three of us then. Don't do something you're not 100% sure she'll respond to in a good way. If she condescendingly jokes that every male friend hits on her, don't hit on her unless she hits on you. Test that out before you fess up to a crush or something similarly potentially embarrasing. Remember she's your co-worker and drinking buddy, if she's your perfect body type and all that, it can be tempting, that's how it was for me. But I had to put it out of my mind since I didn't want work to be a fucked up hell-hole, and since I've realized that personalities of other people getting along with mine are more important than looks, or similarites (things in common), because sometimes you need the perfect synergy, instead of being very similar, in order to have a good relationship. Keep that in mind next time you compare your personalities...

so not true... the boy im with now, he and i were friends for 3 years before we got together, and before that my best friend and i flirted with getting together (but didnt because of other boy) and we had & have been friends for more than 10 years.

I have said enough! But she's so mine.

Of course, now that I think about it I married my best friend and now two kids and a messy divorce later... well, uh.... yeah. Date to your heart's content, but be careful about marrying your best friend

I suppose it depends on how she seems to feel about the plethora of guy friends who’ve hit on her. If she seems to like the idea of her guy friends asking her out, then hey go for it. If she seems to hate it, then don’t go for it.

Ya know, these don't necessarily mean a whole lot. A lot of times, they might throw this shit out there to see whether you can step up, or if you back down.

And other times, a girl who is really into you and moving things forward pretty quickly might say things like "I don't normally do this..." ... and that doesn't necessarily mean that she doesn't WANT to, just that she's surprised that she's this into you and she doesn't want you thinking she's a little slut.

What kind of guys does she seem to ACTUALLY go for? That's a better indication than what she complains about. SOmetimes, the complaints are them venting frustrations that actually attract them in other ways.

The trick is knowing how to be the cool badass while NOT being the fucking asshole.

And that's where I come in...

There are different kinds of friends. The ones who get "categorized" as friends often are the more sensitive ones that you just don't know why they're not attractive to you.

Then there are the ones who have "something" about them that keep your interest in more than just a "you're a good friend" kind of way.

Of course, we can't tell which way the girl feels about the guy who started this thread. It might not be so hard to find out, though.

what's the point of living if you only try things you are 100% sure will work out? i cant stand the thought of wondering what if, and yeah, it has not always worked in my favor, but at least i dont regret not trying....