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DrNecessitor

DrNecessitor

San Jose, CA
January 2003

JUL 26, 2005 11:14 PM

Link

My favorite quote:


The prehistoric "tool" was reassembled from 14 fragments of siltstone.

MrMuller

MrMuller

Detroit, MI
March 2004

JUL 26, 2005 11:36 PM

Seems... big.

Omisan

Omisan

Anjou, QC
January 2005

JUL 27, 2005 07:58 AM

MrMuller said:
Seems... big.




Just a bit more than 1" wide.



MrMuller

MrMuller

Detroit, MI
March 2004

JUL 27, 2005 08:19 AM

Omisan said:

MrMuller said:
Seems... big.




Just a bit more than 1" wide.





And yet, nearly 8" long.

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUL 27, 2005 08:41 AM

MrMuller said:

Omisan said:

MrMuller said:
Seems... big.




Just a bit more than 1" wide.





And yet, nearly 8" long.




And that's big to you, eh? wink

SomeOneUK

SomeOneUK

United Kingdom
June 2004
Cthylla

Cthylla

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 12:41 PM

A 28,000 y/o "sex aid" from during the Ice Ages?

Oh, naturally, that's exactly what it must be. It's highly doubtful that pre-historic humans had the amount of free time necessary to carve and experiment with dildos (even thought it must have been a truly erotic experience having a freezing stone phallus shoved up your crotch). Perhaps the Venus of Willendorf is actually a rudimentary butt-plug.

SomeOneUK

SomeOneUK

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 01:05 PM

Cthylla said:
Perhaps the Venus of Willendorf is actually a rudimentary butt-plug.



tongue

syrvyxyn

syrvyxyn

I'm lost
November 2004

JUL 27, 2005 01:45 PM

I was wondering where that had gone....

Cthylla

Cthylla

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 02:38 PM

Are you kidding?

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUL 27, 2005 02:43 PM

Cthylla said:
A 28,000 y/o "sex aid" from during the Ice Ages?

Oh, naturally, that's exactly what it must be. It's highly doubtful that pre-historic humans had the amount of free time necessary to carve and experiment with dildos (even thought it must have been a truly erotic experience having a freezing stone phallus shoved up your crotch). Perhaps the Venus of Willendorf is actually a rudimentary butt-plug.



Highly doubtful? Humans exist to procreate. Why do you think they would have been any less fascinated with sex then as we are now? You can currently buy dildos made from glass or stone at several websites. Plus, they had the free time to carve all sorts of things including the Venus of Willendorf, I'm sure a dildo was simpler than that.

Cthylla

Cthylla

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 03:28 PM

Do you believe everything you read? The title is actually "Ancient Phallus unearthed in cave", not "prehistoric dildo". Later it mentions "In addition to being a symbolic representation of male genitalia, it was also at times used for knapping flints", which is much harder evidence than "it may well have been used as a sex aid".

Humans 30,000 years ago did not necessarily think and act as we do today. While the sex/procreation link would have already been well-established over the course of human evolution, most artifacts dating prior to 30,000 years ago reflected strictly utilitarian concerns. Symbolic artifacts such as the Venus of Willendorf (which the earliest known of its kind) are generally believed to be fertility icons, not "sex aids". Why would we leap to "dildo" just because it's shaped like a phallus...? Besides... if the goal is procreation... a dildo won't be very effective.

Further, the speculated daily life of early Homo sapiens wouldn't have been "hunt, shit and fuck" along with oodles of free time. Between scavenging (more so than hunting), gathering edible plants, childcare, fending off predators, and a multitude of other demands on hunter-gatherers, free time was not a luxury. About 25,000 years later, agriculture would finally allow certain individuals to begin specializing in other crafts.

But what the hell do any of us know? We weren't there. I'm just saying flint knapper or fertility icon,,, fine. Dildo? Doubtful.

MrMuller

MrMuller

Detroit, MI
March 2004

JUL 27, 2005 04:11 PM

unravled said:

MrMuller said:

Omisan said:

MrMuller said:
Seems... big.




Just a bit more than 1" wide.





And yet, nearly 8" long.




And that's big to you, eh? wink



You know, I was waiting for that, and I had my retort all prepared at one point. Now I'm drawing a blank, but I assure you it involved my massive, sturdy, and fearsome wang.
All I mean to say is, it seems to me that these days, and perhaps I'm wrong, most dildos resemble the current average penis size. Was that "average" for a tool size then? Or was that average for a penis size then? Perhaps it has many historical implications.

These are the questions about history that I'm afraid to ask.

MrMuller

MrMuller

Detroit, MI
March 2004

JUL 27, 2005 04:26 PM

I think perhaps it's just about as likely a dildo as it is, simply a symbol. Except, I wonder, and I don't know at all, did females do a lot of stone carving? Surely a male wouldn't have done that for a female, but if he did, he would have been wise to make it smaller than himself. biggrin

"Eh, lets just use you tonight."

DrNecessitor

DrNecessitor

San Jose, CA
January 2003

JUL 27, 2005 04:34 PM



I searched, but I must have searched poorly and failed. My sincere apologies.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

JUL 27, 2005 04:39 PM

Cthylla said:
A 28,000 y/o "sex aid" from during the Ice Ages?

Oh, naturally, that's exactly what it must be. It's highly doubtful that pre-historic humans had the amount of free time necessary to carve and experiment with dildos (even thought it must have been a truly erotic experience having a freezing stone phallus shoved up your crotch). Perhaps the Venus of Willendorf is actually a rudimentary butt-plug.



Ummm, all of the indirect evidence that is being used to refute progressivist anthropological theory suggests that most of the time hunter gatherers had far more free time than we do. Further, the idea that paleolithic man, or woman, had time to carve a functionless abstraction, but not a tool, which, no pun intended, is what a dildo is, is pretty silly.

capitalistfig

capitalistfig

Los Angeles, CA
November 2004

JUL 27, 2005 05:37 PM

Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor, but every once in a while...
it's a dildo. Of course it's company policy never to, imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

JUL 27, 2005 05:57 PM

reprobate said:

Cthylla said:
A 28,000 y/o "sex aid" from during the Ice Ages?

Oh, naturally, that's exactly what it must be. It's highly doubtful that pre-historic humans had the amount of free time necessary to carve and experiment with dildos (even thought it must have been a truly erotic experience having a freezing stone phallus shoved up your crotch). Perhaps the Venus of Willendorf is actually a rudimentary butt-plug.



Ummm, all of the indirect evidence that is being used to refute progressivist anthropological theory suggests that most of the time hunter gatherers had far more free time than we do. Further, the idea that paleolithic man, or woman, had time to carve a functionless abstraction, but not a tool, which, no pun intended, is what a dildo is, is pretty silly.


Sometimes a cigar is just a ....honking great stone phallus... blush

Cthylla

Cthylla

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 07:24 PM

dkmfc said:

oh hey, wow. you're right. we don't live 30,000 years ago.
so you know just as much about it as I do.
could be a dildo.
yep.



So why are you so fired up about it definitely being a dildo as opposed to something more decorative?

Cthylla

Cthylla

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

JUL 27, 2005 07:27 PM

dkmfc said:
now what I DO know, is that sex is the one thing that has in fact carried throughout history.
people have always liked sex. it's what drive humanity.
so to say they thought differently than we do today is just silly.



So what you DO know is that sex has carried throughout history? tongue

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 27, 2005 08:13 PM

MrMuller said:


You know, I was waiting for that, and I had my retort all prepared at one point. Now I'm drawing a blank, but I assure you it involved my massive, sturdy, and fearsome wang.
All I mean to say is, it seems to me that these days, and perhaps I'm wrong, most dildos resemble the current average penis size. Was that "average" for a tool size then? Or was that average for a penis size then? Perhaps it has many historical implications.

These are the questions about history that I'm afraid to ask.



Most dildos today are much bigger than the average penis. The average penis is about 5-6" long and 1-2" in diameter (based on experience and reading). Most men will of course tell you their cock is a lot bigger than that. Most dildos seem to be about 8-12" long and 2.5-3" in diameter. Vibrators are often more humanly sized, but dildos are generally fairly superhuman.

ringleader

ringleader

I'm lost
May 2004

JUL 27, 2005 08:15 PM

cheers to the original dildo users~

MrMuller

MrMuller

Detroit, MI
March 2004

JUL 27, 2005 08:41 PM

Thistle said:

MrMuller said:


You know, I was waiting for that, and I had my retort all prepared at one point. Now I'm drawing a blank, but I assure you it involved my massive, sturdy, and fearsome wang.
All I mean to say is, it seems to me that these days, and perhaps I'm wrong, most dildos resemble the current average penis size. Was that "average" for a tool size then? Or was that average for a penis size then? Perhaps it has many historical implications.

These are the questions about history that I'm afraid to ask.



Most dildos today are much bigger than the average penis. The average penis is about 5-6" long and 1-2" in diameter (based on experience and reading). Most men will of course tell you their cock is a lot bigger than that. Most dildos seem to be about 8-12" long and 2.5-3" in diameter. Vibrators are often more humanly sized, but dildos are generally fairly superhuman.



Alright, I'll buy that. I mean, I don't go to the shops and study the sizes, but on the infrequent occasion that I do see one, it seems to me that they're pretty small or average based on humans, especially vibrators as you said. But I just tried to look it up and everything I saw said "there is no average dildo size"... which isn't possible, there has to be an average. But you know, either way, I don't really know what I was getting at. biggrin

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

JUL 27, 2005 09:29 PM

"knapping flints"-interesting new inuendo. biggrin

JasonDelane

JasonDelane

Mountain Home Afb, ID
July 2005

JUL 28, 2005 12:38 PM

I think you guys just enjoy saying dildo too much to let this thread die...

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