renting a prostitute in amsterdam

so i'll be going to amsterdam this weekend and of course i'll take a strole through the red light distirct. part of me is tempted to be open to those things which are offered in that area just to say i got a blow job from a prostitute in amsterdam. but i feel a little conflicted. there is a person that i'm dating back home in the US. part of me wants to rationalize that it really wouldn't be cheating because i never promised her that i wouldn't fool around a little while i'm over there and if it's a purely hormonal, get-me-off type thing without any kind of emotional involvement, what could be the harm? i also feel bad as i've been rethinking my stance on legalized prostitution after hearing about the problems with white slavery in europe. apparently a large portion of the women who are prostitutes in amsterdam are from eastern european countries and are basically slaves to pimps. i don't know how i would feel potentially supporting the business of sex slavery.
thoughts? suggestions? humourous little quips that have nothing to do with the subject?

Save your money and buy some hash instead.

Have a wank, for christs sake. it's 10x more spiritually satisfying.

If you're dating someone, I wouldn't do it.

Pfft. Humans were not evolutionarily designed to be monogomous: this is not a statement at all condoning and especially not encouraging infidelity; however, if males do not cheat or receieve some form of 'outside action' (I really don't have a better term) he will then slowly and most certainly become emotionally tired of his partner. It's a universal. Human relationships are designed to fail. Multiple partners before death is a must in the human natural selection design of the brain; so there are really two options involving relationships: 1: have a lifelong relationship with intertwined and covert moments of cuckoldry OR 2: a relationship that will eventually become a burden on one or both members until one or both desire to drift apart and see new people. The difference between the two, and the reason the second is so much more popular is because it is socially acceptable; if someone had to explain their adultery, they would feel ashamed and socially scarred (around most females and some males), while opposingly, if the person merely said, 'we drifted apart and now we're both seeing new people', that is completely acceptable. During sexual maturity, when the human body is at its highest peak for potential reproduction (between the ages of 16 - 20, which also explains why everyone is so damn horny at that age) how long does the average relationship last? That's an easy one. Why? Multiple partners during sexual maturity, or at the very least, setting foundations for future mating. Why the long spiel? I'm all for people having more sympathy and understand for others emotions. I'd say oral sex from a complete stranger is acceptable myself. Otherwise a guy's brain (deep inside) will then slowly view his partner as the enemy, ie "I could have had so much more carnal action if you weren't around" and then attempt to sabatoge the relationship. That's my bit. I know you were probably just hoping I would say, *coughs* um, fuck yes, go for it, dude. So, sorry about making it long and confusing.

seedy. needy. greedy.

I think it depends how serious you are about this girl you are seeing. If you plan on getting married eventually you probably shouldn't do it. If it is just like a fling, then go ahead. Whatever you decide, I would definitely use a condom even if it's just for head. Even though it's not as good and a relatively low risk act, you are better safe than sorry especially considering this is a world renowned place for brothels. You also never know how safe they are....

Basically I think you are on here looking for justification and you will do it regardless of what people say, so have fun and be careful!

Since you are dating, you would be cheating.

You must know what your partner would think already, that is why you have mixed feelings.

Just imagine when you come back home; do you want to lie to her? Do you have unprotected sex with your gf - does she do that with you based on trust.

You are pressumably getting sex at home, so why bother with a pro?

You're sort of seeing someone, so I'm tempted to say "No". There is a problem with they way that prostitution is carried out nowadays, many prostitutes are addicted to drugs or are sex slaves.

Yeah, I had all the answers when I was 24 too.

And, legal or not, it's still exploitation.

Usually people don't brag about sleeping with prostitutes dude. At least, I don't.

um, no. are you really that desperate? if you have a girl, why would you even consider that?

"i also feel bad as i've been rethinking my stance on legalized prostitution after hearing about the problems with white slavery in europe. apparently a large portion of the women who are prostitutes in amsterdam are from eastern european countries and are basically slaves to pimps."

Knowing this, and at least pretending that it kind of maybe sort of bothers you, if you decide to do it, you're not coming home with a story to tell, you're coming home as a raging evil fucking asshole.

Okay, imagine your girl-you're-dating hearing this:
"I got an emotionless blowjob from a hooker in Amsterdam- it was okay 'cause I never said I *wouldn't*, and I managed to fend off (or get off on) thoughts of her being a slave to a vicious pimp long enough to do it. Now I can say that I have! That was the whole point all along!"
Would she dig it?

Hrmpf.

On the other hand, I have a friend who was in the military and lived in Germany for quite some time- he visited prostitutes quite a bit there and it actually seems to have done him some good, apparently.

I dunno.

You are right, it is complete exploitation, and it is really quite sad. I simply agree with the person before me who said the person asking about this had pretty much already made up his mind on whether or not he was going to do it. I agree with everyone else here that doing it with a prostitute is dangerous, encouraging for the act to continue, etc. etc. etc. I myself would never do anything with a prostitue. Except scrabble, because hey, fun for all. Unless she's too good, or on fire.

um, just cos your paying for it doesn't mean it isnt cheating. It's up to your conscience really. Chances of her finding out are nil, but with a guilty conscience your relationship will change, even if only subtly. I can see the attraction though, I have to admit, but keep it as a fantasy or act it out with a willing g/f - go pick her up in an alley an treat her the same way.

Hey, if a single guy did it is it still considered bad by most people? (just generally wondered while the subject is floating about)

edited cos it sounded like I approved, and I don't. sorry.



[Edited on Feb 21, 2005 by spikeymark]

What a load of crap.
What about all those old people who've managed to "transcend their biological nature" and stay together their whole lives? Happy, even!
I know a couple who're in their eighties now. They married when she was sixteen and he was eighteen. Both virgins. They bought a home a couple of years later, had three kids, and have been as gleeful as pigs in shit ever since. It's cute. They hold hands and prop each other up while they shamble around. He doesn't seem too bitter about his lack of adulterous ass-getting.

You know, a dear friend of mine was once with a guy who was quite proud of the blowjob he got from some geisha. I told her the guy was a bastard, and she should stay away from him.

She's now pregnant, and he won't have anything to do with her.

Although, he did justify it by saying he was on a lot of cocaine at the time. Try that, it might make the emotional dilemma a little easier. (sarcasm)

Seriously though, dude. It's cheating, it's dangerous, and it's just a little disgusting. Is a blow job worth all of that?

-D

Hey, I honestly wish what I said wasn't true at all. I really do, but people have not transcended their biological nature. The brain evolved during an age of hunting and gathering, well before any concepts of agriculture, and it has not seen any truly substantial increases since the invention of a written language. It's great for that elderly couple, I want that for myself, how simply and wonderful it would be, but that really is a rare anomaly in society. I'm glad you disagree though; no one should just immediately believe what they hear. But please, don't just discard it completely if you simply don't agree with it.

Are you fucking serious? Wow. Is it ok for me to cheat on my girlfriend with a prostitute? You have issues. Why would you cheat on a girl willing to give you sex for some alley tramp because you want to be able to say, "I got a bj in Amsterdam." I had many friends bang hookers in numerous countries and believe me, no one thinks it's cool and usually the guy isn't too fucking proud of it. If he is he's a fucking loser. Think about what your saying and then answer your own questions. Seriously. Sorry if I sound too harsh.

Wow, what a huge crap rationalization.


If you can't overcome your Id impulses, that makes you an Id-iot.

I wanna see the reaction on his face when after getting his illicit BJ....he realizes it was from a either a tranny or a skinjob...cuase that's what 85% of the Red Light District is made of.