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HrlyQuinn

HrlyQuinn

Newark, DE
February 2004

MAR 02, 2004 10:30 AM

There is a debate raging among some of my friends right now and I would love to hear some other opinions. It seems to be divided by girls vs. boys currently.

Important background information is that it involves a male and female friend—male in long-term relationship and female single. After a lot of flirty times hanging out, they let their flirting go too far. There was a digital camera present which one used to take a nude picture of herself. Then the other went into another room to “use” the picture. Afterwards, they switched roles.

The debate is over whether or not this is cheating. It has been agreed that if they were in the same room masturbating and directly looking at each other, that would have crossed the line. His girlfriend already knows what happened so that is not an issue.

Keith

Keith

Hooker, OK
August 2002

MAR 02, 2004 10:32 AM

Hmm.. it's definitely shady, but I dunno if it's "cheating". It would certainly break my heart though, if it were my girlfriend, and rightly so I think.

Texas

Texas

SUICIDEGIRL

Nevada, USA

MAR 02, 2004 10:35 AM

well i can say that if that happened to me, i would be VERY upset. they were both present and agreed to it...so it was not like is was a normal masturbation session or just looking at a picture or porn of someone they did not know. they knew each other in real life and there may be some feelings there. if i was the dudes girlfriend i would consider this a form of cheating and it would cause some serious trust issues in the relationship. i would dump him if i was the girlfriend.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

MAR 02, 2004 10:36 AM

Cheating? No. Creepy and wrong? Oh, yeah.

Arcadia_Rose

Arcadia_Rose

Atlanta, GA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 02, 2004 10:37 AM

wow yeah, i would be really upset.. but i dont really know if i would break up with the guy for it.. as i would if he really cheated on me.. but i might be concerned that something like that could lead to more in the future.. if he is willing to masturbate to a nude picture of someone he knows, he may go a bit farther

TANK_Ex_Mortis

TANK_Ex_Mortis

Yellow Springs, OH
January 2004

MAR 02, 2004 10:38 AM

Ew. Just... ew.

beaky

beaky

Miami, FL
April 2003

MAR 02, 2004 10:40 AM

I say it depends on the pixel resolution of the camera

BoxOfficePoison

BoxOfficePoison

Portland, OR
June 2003

MAR 02, 2004 10:40 AM

I'm not sure if I'd specifically count it as cheating, but I'd be very annoyed.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 02, 2004 10:43 AM

Well, don't drum me out of the men's club for this.......but to me, that sounds like cheating.

I don't view "cheating" as simply putting slot A into tab B. There's a lot of emotional stuff involved. There's probably a level of trust between the guy, his female friend and his girlfriend. The girlfriend, while she may be suspicious of the time they spend together, probably doesn't have a major problem with the guy & his female friend spending time.

Cheating also isn't an exact formula. It's really a case by case basis depending on your relationship.

When faced with a dilemna, I always use two criteria: "Would I want her doing this with another guy?" and "Would I do this if she were here?"

If this situation came up with me....and it was my girlfriend who was wanking to another guy's pic, just while he was on the other side of the door? I'd be quite pissed.

Stirfry

Stirfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

MAR 02, 2004 10:45 AM

beaker76 said:
I say it depends on the pixel resolution of the camera



as usual... rockin! lmfao

ooo aaa

WuvMonki

wuvmonki

Brooklyn, NY
April 2003

MAR 02, 2004 10:46 AM

I believe anything sexual that is done behind your partner's back is cheating. Most girlfriends would not be happy about their boyfriend jibbing jimmy while looking at someone they know naked, even if it is just a photograph.

loveooo aaa

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 02, 2004 10:47 AM

Would the girls boyfriend be upset? If so, it's cheating.

perplext

perplext

Cleveland, OH
June 2003

MAR 02, 2004 10:50 AM

i'd say cheating, i mean its ok to fantacize about others while in a relationship to some extent, as well as look at pictures of others, but when it comes down to friends, and your in the room next to the person thats getting hot over you that seems a little cheaty. i at least would feel as though the other person cared nothing about me. doing it right in the next room almost is flagrantly giving the opportunity for action afterwards.

HrlyQuinn

HrlyQuinn

Newark, DE
February 2004

MAR 02, 2004 10:53 AM

Wow, ideas really vary here too! Just to clarify, it's the guy who has a significant other.

Al

Al

SUICIDEGIRL

Christmas Island

MAR 02, 2004 10:56 AM

Morgan said:
Would the girls boyfriend be upset? If so, it's cheating.


Yeah, I'd say if you knew your partener would be upset then it's cheating, unless you've laid down other rules.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 02, 2004 10:57 AM

HrlyQuinn said:
Wow, ideas really vary here too! Just to clarify, it's the guy who has a significant other.



Okay, well, would his SO but upset about it?

Oninotaki

oninotaki

Ypsilanti, MI
March 2003

MAR 02, 2004 10:59 AM

I say cheating, and it is reasons like this that I dont own a gun. The chick should dump him.

Hammersmith

Hammersmith

Boston, MA
December 2003

MAR 02, 2004 11:02 AM

reprobate said:
Cheating? No. Creepy and wrong? Oh, yeah.



I disagree and think that it is cheating, but that's besides the point I want to make.

Why is it creepy? Because they're masturbating to pictures? Keep in mind what site you're on.

tobie

tobie

United Kingdom
February 2004

MAR 02, 2004 11:06 AM

Al said:

Morgan said:
Would the girls boyfriend be upset? If so, it's cheating.


Yeah, I'd say if you knew your partener would be upset then it's cheating, unless you've laid down other rules.


as above, and since they seem to have gone as close to actually doing it in the same room as they could, then they alsoknewthat it was cheating and were just trying to get round the issue

HrlyQuinn

HrlyQuinn

Newark, DE
February 2004

MAR 02, 2004 11:11 AM

tobie said:

Al said:

Morgan said:
Would the girls boyfriend be upset? If so, it's cheating.


Yeah, I'd say if you knew your partener would be upset then it's cheating, unless you've laid down other rules.


as above, and since they seem to have gone as close to actually doing it in the same room as they could, then they alsoknewthat it was cheating and were just trying to get round the issue



Huh...I don't think any of us here had even looked at it like that. shocked
Good point.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 02, 2004 11:12 AM

Sounds like you should give them both a good ass-kicking for being selfish.

matt_organic

matt_organic

United Kingdom
September 2003

MAR 02, 2004 11:14 AM

I don't quite know if I'd count it as cheating, but it's sure in a very grey zone. It's also the most roundabout way of being unfaithful I've ever heard of. I don't think I'd be too happy about it, but I doubt I'd dump someone for it unless I was already looking for an excuse...

HalSonic

HalSonic

Minneapolis, MN
October 2003

MAR 02, 2004 11:16 AM

I need to see the pictures to decide.

Stirfry

Stirfry

Cleveland, OH
September 2002

MAR 02, 2004 11:16 AM

tha point here is that he WANTS to fuck his friend!
... "intent" is 90% of it, (it's what decides between Manslaughter/10-20 years and Murder/life-death penalty, btw)
intebnt and the act both count.
if you intend to cheat, you cheated. but if you don't intend to and do anyhow, you are still cheating.

if you caught your man/woman checking into a hotel room with someone, and stopped them before they even got to the room and before anything happened....

cheating!




[Edited on Mar 02, 2004 by Stirfry]

HrlyQuinn

HrlyQuinn

Newark, DE
February 2004

MAR 02, 2004 11:21 AM

Morgan said:
Sounds like you should give them both a good ass-kicking for being selfish.



I'm well ahead of you there.

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