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Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

AUG 10, 2010 04:52 PM

One on penis size.

http://documentaryheaven.com/penis-size-insecurity-by-men/

One on vaginas.

http://documentaryheaven.com/the-perfect-vagina/





the one on penis size is pretty decent, the part that had the girls model their ideals penis out of clay just made me more sad though. In fact, the documentary pretty much made me want to just go hide and never try to have sex with a girl agian.... surrealfrown

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 10, 2010 06:23 PM

Watching now. Have to say, I want to slap the shit out of the couple from California.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

AUG 10, 2010 07:00 PM

Really disturbing, the 21 year-old girl who had this procedure done (for all the world to see I might add) was really sad. Her sister gave her shit about how she looked, and her guy friends at the clubs did too. Her sister is a cunt, and the guys are douche bags.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 10, 2010 07:07 PM

The whole thing brings up the fact that people are being judged by something they have no control over. A man has no control over the size of his penis, and a woman has no control over how her labia develop. They just are.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

AUG 10, 2010 07:19 PM

Coyotemike said:
The whole thing brings up the fact that people are being judged by something they have no control over. A man has no control over the size of his penis, and a woman has no control over how her labia develop. They just are.



Yep and the reality is that there is no difference between labiaplasty and breast implant surgery. They're both purely cosmetic and medically unnecessary. And although I've been assured by numerous sources that my own cock is of average size and perfectly normal, I'm incredibly insecure about it.

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

AUG 10, 2010 07:25 PM

Aaron said:

Coyotemike said:
The whole thing brings up the fact that people are being judged by something they have no control over. A man has no control over the size of his penis, and a woman has no control over how her labia develop. They just are.



Yep and the reality is that there is no difference between labiaplasty and breast implant surgery. They're both purely cosmetic and medically unnecessary. And although I've been assured by numerous sources that my own cock is of average size and perfectly normal, I'm incredibly insecure about it.



Indeed.

All I have heard from every girl I have known is how 8inches and real thick is the ideal size. Then to hear when girls are in groups laughing about the sizes of the penises of guys they have been with, not exactly a thumbs up to go and try to date a girl. ever.

Cherry2000

Cherry2000

Calgary, AB
July 2009

AUG 10, 2010 09:17 PM

In the penis movie, most of the men were insecure about their size because they believed women were judging them on it. How do you convince women that penis size doesn't matter? Or is that a lost cause, and men just have to learn to love their dicks despite what women think/want?

I think it's similar to women's body image issues, in that people are being told to accept themselves, but no one is really pushing the opposite sex to develop more realistic expectations.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 10, 2010 09:58 PM

Cherry2000 said:
In the penis movie, most of the men were insecure about their size because they believed women were judging them on it. How do you convince women that penis size doesn't matter? Or is that a lost cause, and men just have to learn to love their dicks despite what women think/want?



How much of it is women being honest about their wants, and how much is them mouthing what they think they're supposed to want?

PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Portland, OR
October 2005

AUG 10, 2010 10:08 PM

Coyotemike said:
Watching now. Have to say, I want to slap the shit out of the couple from California.



Seriously.

Off topic observations from the first doc:

1. I always assumed that dick wasn't a slang term for penis in England because well....spotted dick. shocked

2. Also, watching the director with that sandwich board, I was reminded of the stark contrast between law enforcement in Europe vs. the U.S. If he had done that here, I have little doubt that it would have ended with an unmerciful, anally administered tasering and the addition of his name on the sex offender registry.


On topic, I thought that the part with the girls sculpting their "ideal" cock was very telling. The bit where the girl said that the ideal is only what she thinks of for one night stands is pretty accurate for most women. With the exception of a few women I know, a big dick is a novelty we might want occasionally but don't necessarily want to live with.

And might I add that among the broad range of cock I've had the privilege to enjoy, the biggest dicks in bed were the biggest dicks outside of it AND had the least staying power and talent.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

AUG 10, 2010 10:10 PM

Coyotemike said:

Cherry2000 said:
In the penis movie, most of the men were insecure about their size because they believed women were judging them on it. How do you convince women that penis size doesn't matter? Or is that a lost cause, and men just have to learn to love their dicks despite what women think/want?



How much of it is women being honest about their wants, and how much is them mouthing what they think they're supposed to want?



Exactly.

One frat boy talking about "beef curtains" at a kegger can give a girl a complex for the rest of her life. Same for dudes, spend some time watching porn and it sets up a completely ridiculous standard.

Cherry2000

Cherry2000

Calgary, AB
July 2009

AUG 10, 2010 11:40 PM

Coyotemike said:

Cherry2000 said:
In the penis movie, most of the men were insecure about their size because they believed women were judging them on it. How do you convince women that penis size doesn't matter? Or is that a lost cause, and men just have to learn to love their dicks despite what women think/want?



How much of it is women being honest about their wants, and how much is them mouthing what they think they're supposed to want?



That's a good point. I can't say how much of it comes down to social programming, but I think at least part of it is women being honest about what they find sexually satisfying (of course, all women have different preferences).

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

AUG 11, 2010 02:52 AM

"Both genders"?

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

AUG 11, 2010 05:46 AM

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 11, 2010 06:41 AM

Morgan said:

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.



Some people aren't as experienced in the world as others. Worldly a post it isn't........juvenile a post it may be....but intentionally exclusive....I don't believe it is.

Ridley

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 11, 2010 08:03 AM

Aaron said:

Coyotemike said:
The whole thing brings up the fact that people are being judged by something they have no control over. A man has no control over the size of his penis, and a woman has no control over how her labia develop. They just are.



Yep and the reality is that there is no difference between labiaplasty and breast implant surgery. They're both purely cosmetic and medically unnecessary. And although I've been assured by numerous sources that my own cock is of average size and perfectly normal, I'm incredibly insecure about it.



Some labiaplasty is completely cosmetic. Some is for actual medical purposes, like when girls are in constant pain and discomfort because their bits get caught in pants, or when walking, or are really painful during sex.


Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 11, 2010 08:20 AM

Ridley said:

Aaron said:

Coyotemike said:
The whole thing brings up the fact that people are being judged by something they have no control over. A man has no control over the size of his penis, and a woman has no control over how her labia develop. They just are.



Yep and the reality is that there is no difference between labiaplasty and breast implant surgery. They're both purely cosmetic and medically unnecessary. And although I've been assured by numerous sources that my own cock is of average size and perfectly normal, I'm incredibly insecure about it.



Some labiaplasty is completely cosmetic. Some is for actual medical purposes, like when girls are in constant pain and discomfort because their bits get caught in pants, or when walking, or are really painful during sex.




I wonder how many are for simple cosmetic and how many are for physical need (described above).

Rainer24

Rainer24

Chicago, IL
January 2008

AUG 11, 2010 09:24 AM

Just watched the one about penises. The reaction of the nurses in the OR was a bit surprising/disappointing.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 11, 2010 09:31 AM

Rainer24 said:
Just watched the one about penises. The reaction of the nurses in the OR was a bit surprising/disappointing.



They work for a company that does penis enlargements.

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

AUG 11, 2010 09:32 AM

Cash said:

Morgan said:

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.



Some people aren't as experienced in the world as others. Worldly a post it isn't........juvenile a post it may be....but intentionally exclusive....I don't believe it is.




I'm sorry I can't type PC every single post. Just because I put both instead of all does not mean I am slighting anyone.
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TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

AUG 11, 2010 02:38 PM

Let's assume that all 14 genders should be encouraged to watch these docos.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

AUG 11, 2010 02:52 PM

Sallen said:

Cash said:

Morgan said:

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.



Some people aren't as experienced in the world as others. Worldly a post it isn't........juvenile a post it may be....but intentionally exclusive....I don't believe it is.




I'm sorry I can't type PC every single post. Just because I put both instead of all does not mean I am slighting anyone.
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Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

AUG 11, 2010 04:42 PM

Sallen said:

Cash said:

Morgan said:

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.



Some people aren't as experienced in the world as others. Worldly a post it isn't........juvenile a post it may be....but intentionally exclusive....I don't believe it is.




I'm sorry I can't type PC every single post. Just because I put both instead of all does not mean I am slighting anyone.
It w



ok, thats weird, the second half of my post got cut off, maybe because I posted from my isheep, i mean phone.


What I was saying that got cut off is that, It was interesting watching the documentary about the concept of the perfect vagina. I honestly never have really given much thought to how vaginas look I always thought they were all normal regardless of their appearance. It is weird that any guy would knock how a vagina looks considering that its the woman that decides if a guy is ever going to see theirs.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

AUG 11, 2010 07:21 PM

Cash said:

Morgan said:

_Elichrusos said:
"Both genders"?



That's the first thing I thought, too. Glad I'm not the only one.



Some people aren't as experienced in the world as others. Worldly a post it isn't........juvenile a post it may be....but intentionally exclusive....I don't believe it is.



Could someone explain to me with a straight face exactly how many genders there are? I'm confused.

Edited to add: I'm completely familiar with transgendered people, but do they constitute a "third" gender in some peoples mind?

Rainer24

Rainer24

Chicago, IL
January 2008

AUG 11, 2010 09:33 PM

Coyotemike said:

Rainer24 said:
Just watched the one about penises. The reaction of the nurses in the OR was a bit surprising/disappointing.



They work for a company that does penis enlargements.




I know, but it was still pretty damned ridiculous and I wished the guy making the film had kind of ridiculed them a bit more for that.

DezzieMarie

DezzieMarie

USA
July 2010

AUG 11, 2010 10:09 PM

Coyotemike said:

Cherry2000 said:
In the penis movie, most of the men were insecure about their size because they believed women were judging them on it. How do you convince women that penis size doesn't matter? Or is that a lost cause, and men just have to learn to love their dicks despite what women think/want?



How much of it is women being honest about their wants, and how much is them mouthing what they think they're supposed to want?



I'm asking the same question. Are they being honest about their needs or are they regurgitating what girls are "supposed" to like.

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