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omniphiliacs

omniphiliacs

San Francisco, CA
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:19 PM

I've heard this debate time and time again and I'm curious what SG members think. What do you think about the idea that there is no such thing as "bad" sex, that any sex is good sex. Critics of this approach have argued that this theory is usually held by males because they cannot discern between good sex and bad sex being that they generally believe that as long as they cum "it's all good." Personally I've had horrible sex and great fucking mind-blowing sex.
You SGer's care to remark? biggrin

60ftQueenie

60ftQueenie

Australia
December 2002

FEB 27, 2003 11:25 PM

to the desperate few anything is good... to the discerning person.. good is good bad is bad

Orchid1

Orchid1

Portland, OR
August 2002

FEB 27, 2003 11:26 PM

I definitely do not think any sex is good sex.
Sex can be mindblowing and meaningful or mindblowing and trivial.
In my experience it can also just be penetration. And thats it.
I definitely find a dinstinction betweeen the two.

rickroyal

rickroyal

Mount Laurel, NJ
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:28 PM

I'm male and I've faked orgasms in the past to simply make it end. There is little worse than bad sex.

omniphiliacs

omniphiliacs

San Francisco, CA
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:29 PM

Would you say there is a difference between:
(1) fucking
(2) sex
(3) making love
?

Which one would you say is better, if at all?
Are there times when each would be appropriate?
which times are these?

rickroyal

rickroyal

Mount Laurel, NJ
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:33 PM

omniphiliacs said:
Would you say there is a difference between:
(1) fucking
(2) sex
(3) making love



No. Semantics do not change the act.

tanar

tanar

Chicago, IL
December 2002

FEB 27, 2003 11:35 PM

There is definitely good and bad sex. And there's also incredible sex. There are women I have been with that I wish that I never had sex with because the actual experience did not meet up to my expectations. I don't blame them for anything. It's just afterwards, I didn't hold as much of an attraction for them because the sex with them wasn't a great experience.

omniphiliacs

omniphiliacs

San Francisco, CA
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:36 PM

rickroyal said:
No. Semantics do not change the act.

haha...seriously tho, there are a lot of people who attach different conotations to each term.

Alphamale

Alphamale

Portland, OR
February 2003

FEB 27, 2003 11:54 PM

It's amazing how much 6 months of involentary celebacy can warp your sence of what "Good sex" is, because right now I'm thinking...Hell yes.

Orchid1

Orchid1

Portland, OR
August 2002

FEB 28, 2003 12:01 AM

omniphiliacs said:
Would you say there is a difference between:
(1) fucking
(2) sex
(3) making love
?

Which one would you say is better, if at all?
Are there times when each would be appropriate?
which times are these?




Sex and fucking aren't so different to me, But love making seems like soft, candlelit, eye gazing etc. I do not like to do that. It reminds me of 7th grade and grocery store love novels.

spudboy

spudboy

Canton, OH
February 2003

FEB 28, 2003 12:03 AM

i heard some stand-up comedian put it this way:

sex is like pizza.
when it's good, it's great, but even when it's bad, it's still pretty good.

i think it's pretty true.

Ophelia

Ophelia

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 28, 2003 12:26 AM

No.
There's awful, horrible, demeaning, painful sex, earth-shattering, amazing, unbelieveable sex, and just about everything in between.
Just because you come doesn't mean that it's necessarily good sex, either (in my opinion).
And as for the words...
fucking - dirty, tie me up, scream my name, pull my hair, tell me what you want to do to me, pin me down, throw me, scratch me, bite me, I need you now-type sex.
sex - the multi-purpose word that can cover any type of screwing
making love - look into my eyes, kiss me gently, hold me, whisper sweet nothings in my ear, nibble me gently, and tell me how much you love me-type sex.

LostJunkShot

LostJunkShot

Concord, NC
OLD SKOOL

FEB 28, 2003 12:51 AM

I am completely and totally with donkey on this one. Ya took the words off the tip of my tongue before I could say them

Sempi

Sempi

Novato, CA
February 2003

FEB 28, 2003 01:32 AM

Good sex is anytime you can get your woman to cum first. Any man who puts his woman's pleasure above his own knows this. Any man who cums first is more interested in his pleasure and 9 times out of 10 it's going to suck for his woman.

LostJunkShot

LostJunkShot

Concord, NC
OLD SKOOL

FEB 28, 2003 01:40 AM

Sempi said:
Good sex is anytime you can get your woman to cum first. Any man who puts his woman's pleasure above his own knows this. Any man who cums first is more interested in his pleasure and 9 times out of 10 it's going to suck for his woman.



*shrug* it's give and take on this one, man. I mean, not to be mean, but I have this physiological tick- I either shoot off quick or it's gonna be a long time before I can. Which means when I'm with someone for a while, it turns into a "They get theirs" or "I get mine" and we swap back and forth. Cause sometimes I don't have the hour and a half to give hers and convince my member that "it's ok" to go ahead after I forcibly stopped his early ending.

Plus cumming first is only selfish if you don't go back to finish the job. Afterall... SOMEONE has to cum first...

AwalkingShadow

AwalkingShadow

Miami, FL
December 2002

FEB 28, 2003 01:43 AM

Intimacy isn't necessarily enjoyment

Skryche

skryche

New York, NY
January 2003

FEB 28, 2003 06:16 AM

omniphiliacs said:
Would you say there is a difference between:
(1) fucking
(2) sex
(3) making love

Which one would you say is better, if at all?
Are there times when each would be appropriate?
which times are these?


We're all talking about the same physical acts, right? Then what's the point of splitting hairs? Also: what's "making love" for one partner might be "fucking" for the other.

Onion headline:
CLINTON DENIES LEWINSKY ALLEGATIONS: 'WE
DID NOT HAVE SEX, WE MADE LOVE,' SAYS PRESIDENT


IS ANY SEX GOOD SEX?
No. Can any rape be good rape?

[Edited on Feb 28, 2003 by Skryche]

Opahl

Opahl

SUICIDEGIRL

Iowa, USA

FEB 28, 2003 07:43 AM

Dood, I've had sex where I haven't felt a damn thing. I'd say that was bad sex.

gingerlie

gingerlie

Portland, OR
November 2002

FEB 28, 2003 07:54 AM

i totally agree with opahl.

razorgrin

razorgrin

I'm lost
January 2003

FEB 28, 2003 08:02 AM

There's Bad sex, good sex, everything in between.
And I completely disagree about the semantics thing. Fucking involves a degree of rawness, while making love is a lot more tender... I believe the word usage is a matter of intent, and a matter of act.

And I've definetely had bad bad bad sex.
And I've had some of the most amazing FUCKING ever... hell, even RECENTLY. Blood all over the place, etc.
Just sayin'... woo.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 28, 2003 09:14 AM

Ophelia said:
No.
There's awful, horrible, demeaning, painful sex, earth-shattering, amazing, unbelieveable sex, and just about everything in between.
Just because you come doesn't mean that it's necessarily good sex, either (in my opinion).
And as for the words...
fucking - dirty, tie me up, scream my name, pull my hair, tell me what you want to do to me, pin me down, throw me, scratch me, bite me, I need you now-type sex.
sex - the multi-purpose word that can cover any type of screwing
making love - look into my eyes, kiss me gently, hold me, whisper sweet nothings in my ear, nibble me gently, and tell me how much you love me-type sex.



She said it better than I could have. kiss

omniphiliacs

omniphiliacs

San Francisco, CA
February 2003

FEB 28, 2003 10:37 AM

Would anyone say that difference between the three is the amount of intimacy you have with the person that you are engaging in coitus with?
i.e.
fucking= one-night stand
sex= first month or so in a relationship
making-love= Someone yer completely in love with.

I dont feel this way but I've heard this argument before and wondered if anyone here felt the same.
I kind of follow Donkey's line of reasoning.

Also, women, do you prefer to cum first? Does it annoy the fuck out of you when the guy cums first? Why or why not?

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

FEB 28, 2003 10:55 AM

Naw, I think that you can have any of those kinds of sex no matter how well you know a person...well, maybe it doesn't work both ways, but I know my boy and I can make love, and then decide later that day we want to fuck, and then before bedtime, have sex. ya know what I mean?

And it only bothers me when a guy comes first if he doesn't try to help me along afterwards.

rickroyal

rickroyal

Mount Laurel, NJ
February 2003

FEB 28, 2003 12:31 PM

Still seems like a silly semantic difference to me. If it was anything other than sex, one wouldn't change the word based on importance or emotional attachment placed on the act. The act itself doesn't change, only what it means to the individual does.

GoatsGoToHell

GoatsGoToHell

USA
OLD SKOOL

FEB 28, 2003 12:35 PM

There is definatly such a thing as bad sex or whatever you wish to call it. I have been fortunate that I haven't partaken in any of said varity in quite some time though.

I do know it's not always what you make of it, sometimes people just aren't on the same page and nothing clicks. surreal

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