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PirateKingofCuba

PirateKingofCuba

Ames, IA
October 2004

DEC 14, 2006 12:39 PM

Morgan said:

PirateKingofCuba said:
the whole dirty women thing was sarcasm, however whether it was or not i never called your vag dirty, thanks for jumping to that conclusion, nice of you.

-Will



When did I say anything about my vagina? I was simply giving you some information to clear up things you said in your posts.

Sarcasm is difficult to read over the internet, in general when using it it is wise to let people know, somehow, that you are being sarcastic.



you're right. However you did imply that I referred to the vag itself as dirty, which I find mildly offensive cause the only thing I ever said was dirty was a sarcastic comment referring to the women I hang out with. That has nothing to do with thinking of the vag as dirty. so you going out of your way to explain why the vagina isn't dirty seems rather condescending.

-Will

PirateKingofCuba

PirateKingofCuba

Ames, IA
October 2004

DEC 14, 2006 12:43 PM

Roethke said:

PirateKingofCuba said:
the whole dirty women thing was sarcasm, however whether it was or not i never called your vag dirty, thanks for jumping to that conclusion, nice of you.

-Will


Firstly, it's spelled "word." Now, I know everyone hates a Miss Manners when it comes to spelling, but you repeatedly misspelled it and it infuriates me.

Secondly, you seem to be shooting from the hip with all these rumours and anecdotes about vaginas and stuff coming from vaginas. Take the good lady's suggestion, and read up on the organ a little more before you start telling stories about softball size masses, who's susceptible to yeast infections (you know, it's likely your buddies just didn't know it was a yeast infection), and how the vagina takes care of itself. Hey, it's a mysterious area, and it's understandable you may not know much about it, but it's just silly and makes you look like an ass when you take offense when someone tries to help you out.




I take offense when she misinterprets what I wrote. I also take offense when people call me or my friends liars. Some of my knowledge may be off base, granted, nobody is perfect, but if I tell you something happened to my friend it seems kind of rude to tell me it didn't.

but I think we've derailed this thread enough, if you want to continue msg me and we'll do it that way.

-Will

PirateKingofCuba

PirateKingofCuba

Ames, IA
October 2004

DEC 14, 2006 12:45 PM

dkmfc said:

PirateKingofCuba said:


Know a guy who got a baseball sized chunk of cottage cheese expelled from a vagina while he was going down on a young lady. Seems hard to believe but apparently if you don't wash well bad things can grow down there. To this day his girlfriend is quite ok with him being somewhat reluctant to give head(his gf is a different girl, but he explained the unpleasant memory). In fact the full story makes me reluctant to go down on a girl, that's just fucking gross.

-Will



the cottage cheese thing is from a raging yeast infection.
some girls don't know they have them and it gets really bad really quick.
like this.

has nothing to do with washing.



werd. thanks for the info, I'll be sure to pass it on. maybe it'll help my friend get over the whole thing.

-Will

PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Portland, OR
October 2005

DEC 14, 2006 03:26 PM

PirateKingofCuba said:

PRockGirlScout said:

PirateKingofCuba said:


On a side note... ermm... I'm not so sure the vagina is made to clean itself out. In fact that's one reason i've heard the military claim that women aren't allowed in field/combat units, they have harder to fulfill hygene requirements. also take note yeast infections... ermm... ya. I'm not a doctor but my guess is that having a warm moist area is probably not a good thing for keeping bacteria away.

-Will



I really really don't want to derail this thread into a debate about women in the military but FYI:

1. Men can get yeast infections too.

2. The primary cause for yeast infections is the lack of good bacteria, brought on by either antibiotics and poor diet, not poor hygiene.

3. Women aren't nearly as high maintenance as you think we are. Our vaginas don't break if we don't have a shower for a day. And I'd venture to say our improvisational skills (ever seen a woman apply her makeup at a red light?) insure we're just fine in the field.



I tried to werd that in such a way as to avoid such a conversation. Notice the exact werding: "I've heard the military claim" If you'd like to discuss the reasons the military doesn't allow women in field or combat units, feel free to message me.

As to men getting yeast infections, I've never had a guy friend get one, and countless women I know have. Maybe that means I hang around dirty women, but I'd be inclined to doubt that. I forgot to mention UTI's as well.

Despite the complete cluster fuck that was my comment, I think what it boils down to is that it's a dark moist place... bacteria of any sort is going to abound in there, and without proper hygiene some wierd/gross things can happen. Same as for men with uncircumscised penii, which I'm pretty sure I just spelled wrong, heh. In fact I actually know a guy(long story) who didn't wash his shit(read shit as uncircumscised penis) very well, and the best description that I heard of the problem was cottage cheese growing out of his dick.

Things that make you go puke

-Will



Why do people bother posting only about what they've "heard" (read: pulled directly out of their ass) only to recant their arguments when someone refutes them with facts?

Are we supposed to ignore these asinine comments because they are hearsay? confused

bcguitar33

bcguitar33

Jamaica Plain, MA
January 2004

DEC 14, 2006 11:30 PM

PirateKingofCuba said:
On a side note... ermm... I'm not so sure the vagina is made to clean itself out. In fact that's one reason i've heard the military claim that women aren't allowed in field/combat units, they have harder to fulfill hygene requirements. also take note yeast infections... ermm... ya. I'm not a doctor but my guess is that having a warm moist area is probably not a good thing for keeping bacteria away.

-Will


Wait 'til the military realizes that men have a warm, moist area too in the form of mouths. Who will be left to fill our field/combat units??

pyrilamine

pyrilamine

Shreveport, LA
July 2006

DEC 15, 2006 12:25 AM

I like giving, and reciving.. If a guy does not like doing either.. I dont mind.. I perfer intercourse over oral anyday.. Im not going to leave someone just becasue of oral sex.. i can please myelf.. *.* miao!!

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 15, 2006 11:10 AM

PirateKingofCuba said:
so you going out of your way to explain why the vagina isn't dirty seems rather condescending.
-Will



I was trying to be helpful. You obviously had some ideas that were somewhat off-base, I provided information to the contrary. I would think it would be GOOD to know more about vaginas, no?

PirateKingofCuba said:
I also take offense when people call me or my friends liars. Some of my knowledge may be off base, granted, nobody is perfect, but if I tell you something happened to my friend it seems kind of rude to tell me it didn't.
-Will



Never said your friends were liars, in fact I never said a thing about your friend's experience. I'm just pointing you to some information, you can choose to read it or you can choose to get all butthurt that someone tried to provide you with facts, it's your choice.

PirateKingofCuba

PirateKingofCuba

Ames, IA
October 2004

DEC 15, 2006 05:20 PM

Morgan said:

PirateKingofCuba said:
so you going out of your way to explain why the vagina isn't dirty seems rather condescending.
-Will



I was trying to be helpful. You obviously had some ideas that were somewhat off-base, I provided information to the contrary. I would think it would be GOOD to know more about vaginas, no?

PirateKingofCuba said:
I also take offense when people call me or my friends liars. Some of my knowledge may be off base, granted, nobody is perfect, but if I tell you something happened to my friend it seems kind of rude to tell me it didn't.
-Will



Never said your friends were liars, in fact I never said a thing about your friend's experience. I'm just pointing you to some information, you can choose to read it or you can choose to get all butthurt that someone tried to provide you with facts, it's your choice.





You never did. the second half of that was in reply to roethke. The reason I'm 'butt hurt' is simply because I found it annoying that somehow in my post you came to the conclusion that I find the vagina dirty, which is a pretty uneducated thing to think, and I don't. I do think that it has special hygiene needs, much like a penis, or the eyeballs, but that by no means makes it 'dirty'.

But it's kinda a moot point since my post has apparently derailed this thread a bit, so if you wanna continue this discussion, plz feel free to msg me. Otherwise I'm gonna stop responding here since it seems to only upset people, and that's not really my goal.

-Will

twiglet

twiglet

United Kingdom
December 2005

DEC 15, 2006 10:43 PM

i have never enjoyed receiving head (maby i haven't found the right girl, but it just bores me).yet i do so enjoy going down on girls. infact i probably enjoy going down on girls more than i enjoy sex (probally as i know i'm a bit rubbish at fucking but infinately better at giving head [well as long as she cum and enjoys it])

PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Portland, OR
October 2005

DEC 15, 2006 11:03 PM

PirateKingofCuba said:

Morgan said:

PirateKingofCuba said:
so you going out of your way to explain why the vagina isn't dirty seems rather condescending.
-Will



I was trying to be helpful. You obviously had some ideas that were somewhat off-base, I provided information to the contrary. I would think it would be GOOD to know more about vaginas, no?

PirateKingofCuba said:
I also take offense when people call me or my friends liars. Some of my knowledge may be off base, granted, nobody is perfect, but if I tell you something happened to my friend it seems kind of rude to tell me it didn't.
-Will



Never said your friends were liars, in fact I never said a thing about your friend's experience. I'm just pointing you to some information, you can choose to read it or you can choose to get all butthurt that someone tried to provide you with facts, it's your choice.





You never did. the second half of that was in reply to roethke. The reason I'm 'butt hurt' is simply because I found it annoying that somehow in my post you came to the conclusion that I find the vagina dirty, which is a pretty uneducated thing to think, and I don't. I do think that it has special hygiene needs, much like a penis, or the eyeballs, but that by no means makes it 'dirty'.

But it's kinda a moot point since my post has apparently derailed this thread a bit, so if you wanna continue this discussion, plz feel free to msg me. Otherwise I'm gonna stop responding here since it seems to only upset people, and that's not really my goal.

-Will



I find it really creepy when people are uncomfortable debating in public but encourage argument in through PMs.

Onie

Onie

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

DEC 16, 2006 12:42 AM

Cairo said:
If I were your friend, I would dump him for two reasons:

1. Not being honest and telling me what his real deal is. I don't feel like I should ever have to just guess at whatever my S.O is feeling/thinking, especially when it directly involves the relationship.
2. No oral sex? Like, ever? No, thanks.

Although if he was able to overcome #1, I would probably be able to forgive him for #2.




+1 .. as long as he was able to overcome #2 AND let me get oral from other people.. what?! what?! thats fair!!

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

DEC 16, 2006 12:52 AM

PirateKingofCuba said:
You never did. the second half of that was in reply to roethke. The reason I'm 'butt hurt' is simply because I found it annoying that somehow in my post you came to the conclusion that I find the vagina dirty, which is a pretty uneducated thing to think, and I don't. I do think that it has special hygiene needs, much like a penis, or the eyeballs, but that by no means makes it 'dirty'.
-Will



I can't imagine where anyone could have gotten that idea confused

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

DEC 16, 2006 05:36 PM

PirateKingofCuba said:
You never did. the second half of that was in reply to roethke. The reason I'm 'butt hurt' is simply because I found it annoying that somehow in my post you came to the conclusion that I find the vagina dirty, which is a pretty uneducated thing to think, and I don't. I do think that it has special hygiene needs, much like a penis, or the eyeballs, but that by no means makes it 'dirty'.

But it's kinda a moot point since my post has apparently derailed this thread a bit, so if you wanna continue this discussion, plz feel free to msg me. Otherwise I'm gonna stop responding here since it seems to only upset people, and that's not really my goal.

-Will



You wash your eyeballs in a special way every day?

I somehow doubt that.

Ring_finger

Ring_finger

Lubbock, TX
December 2004

OCT 14, 2009 06:57 PM

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

OCT 14, 2009 07:09 PM

Necia said:
You wash your eyeballs in a special way every day?



This is my new favorite question to ask people I've just met.

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

OCT 14, 2009 08:53 PM

joker_ said:

Necia said:
You wash your eyeballs in a special way every day?



This is my new favorite question to ask people I've just met.



You might get a lot of stares.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

OCT 14, 2009 09:33 PM

I know that us heteronormative people are not accustomed to examining our sexuality but I think its time we acknowledged that some het people like to only give and not receive or visa versa, thus making them bottoms or tops.

Evilgasm

Evilgasm

Netherlands
April 2007

OCT 17, 2009 03:35 AM

unfiltrator said:
I know that us heteronormative people are not accustomed to examining our sexuality but I think its time we acknowledged that some het people like to only give and not receive or visa versa, thus making them bottoms or tops.



+1

I was talking with some friends in a bar years ago and the conversation turned, as it does, to oral sex.

The girl with us reacts with instant revulsion to the idea of a guy going down on her. Which shocked me as it is one of my favorite bedroom pass times and has been generally well received by critics and audiences alike.

Pressing the issue I discover that the only reason she doesn't want a guy eating her out, is because the guy "will always expect you to go down on him afterwards". Which is something I disagree with. I enjoy getting head for about a minuet and then really the thrill is gone, if it was ever there, and have never gotten off that way.

Everyone has a different kink-factor. In the end sex should be about what turns you and your partner on. Common ground is essential for a good fuck. A lack of it can be a disaster for the whole relationship.

Xotanac

Xotanac

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2004

OCT 17, 2009 09:14 AM

Maybe if she had a penis he would go down on her.. I know I would..

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

OCT 17, 2009 05:43 PM

unfiltrator said:
I know that us heteronormative people are not accustomed to examining our sexuality but I think its time we acknowledged that some het people like to only give and not receive or visa versa, thus making them bottoms or tops.



Not wanting to give or receive head doesn't have a lot to do with whether or not you are a bottom or a top. Unless there's some meaning of bottom and top of which I am unaware.

Otherwise I agree, it's important for even those in the "normal" situation to examine their sexuality.

Kreatureofmagik

Kreatureofmagik

East Wenatchee, WA
March 2009

OCT 17, 2009 07:19 PM

No, I can see where it could be seen as top or bottom thing. Not for me, or most people. Maybe someone who was repressing other sexual feelings or something. I don't know, I love giving head, and love getting it too. But I never really liked it until my fiance. Before that I was self conscious, and my partner at that time wasn't good at it. Now I love it. Same with giving head too.

ElizaTheTroll

ElizaTheTroll

Australia
January 2006

OCT 17, 2009 07:22 PM

unfiltrator said:
I know that us heteronormative people are not accustomed to examining our sexuality but I think its time we acknowledged that some het people like to only give and not receive or visa versa, thus making them bottoms or tops.



Sorry for going all semantics-nazi on you here, but in my mind the term heteronormative applied to a person would describe someone who prescribes heterosexuality as a norm to others. I don't think that's what you were trying to express.

As for the "bottoms and tops" part, I don't think it's that simple. While I find it plausible to assume that most tops wouldn't give and most bottoms wouldn't receive head, that doesn't mean not giving or not receiving head automatically makes you a top or bottom, respectively. All elephants are gray, but not all gray things are elephants.

Moonflower

Moonflower

I'm lost
March 2009

NOV 19, 2009 10:29 PM

Personally, I love "giving"...it's one of my biggest turn-ons. As for the receiving end, if I'm feeling good and well-washed and groomed, generally it's awesome...HOWEVER, if I have a few drinks in me I tend to get a bit numb down there, so it can actually get kind of annoying, a bit of a mood killer even. Anyone else have this problem?

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

NOV 20, 2009 03:36 PM

Yes, but have you ever had/made a blowjob while driving?

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

NOV 20, 2009 08:12 PM

Because I'm eating ice cream. Let me finish!

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