Nice Guys Vs Bad Boys

I think I missed the irony.

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They only complain to you out of charity to make you feel "useful" because you are such a frickin loser.

Basically, girls aren't stupid. They can tell 99.999% of the time whether or not you really just want to fuck them, so when you insult their intelligence with the "nice guy" act, they are perfectly justified in holding the carrot inches from your mouth while you sit there whimpering about how more MORE YOU CARE than EVVVERYBODY ELSE imo.

As for the "bad boys"...do you really think all these girls are so stupid as to actually be with a truly bad, cruel person? By the logic of this fucking tired -ass argument, NO GIRL IS EVER BRIGHT ENOUGH TO MAKE A RIGHT CHOICE AS FAR AS DATING GOES...EVER...unless of course it's YOU, oh "nice guy". :o Seriously, could you be any MORE of a fucking self-centered, simpering little chauvinist?

This isn't entirely directed at the OP....this is for all the budding woman hater/serial killers out there who never learned to grow t3h ballz so they spend their nights masturbating to lolicon and secretly hating all their female "friends" for not wanting to fellate them. FUCK OFF NICE GUYS.

oh yeah and while i'm at it, bring back vanilla pepsi. thank you.

But vanilla pepsi sucked. In a way very similar to self proclaimed nice guys.

I'm tired of this subject. I conceder myself a nice-guy & have been told I am but I don't go bitching about it. If you're tired of getting ditched for some fuck wad that has the motto of "use’em & lose'em" than grow some balls, stop fucking whining & go out there to meet the girl of your dreams & win her over. Sitting on your ass is only going to get you fat & a chafed dick because you’ll be lacking love so much that you will overcompensate with “personal” love.

Hey, you stole my routine!

So, what we're gettign at it: girls don't go for honorable Celtic/Viking Warriors anymore!? Shit, now I gotta shave off the Celtic Mustache and long hair I've been cultivating for the last year.

On second thought, they still piss off my students, so I think I'll keep them

I cant belive this thread.

THERE ARE NO NICE GUY/BAD GUYS

there are SO called nice guys...who are guys with no balls to try and get the girls.
and there are so called Bad guys that are just guys that have enough confidence to talk to a girl.

the whole nice guy bad guy thing was just made up by guys that are to busy masterbating to the sight of the girl next door...that they never think to actually go talk to her.

I finally get credit for something I've accomplished!

Grr. Maybe we could round up all the Celt/Viking/Iberian/Norman/Anglo sword wielding men-types, build us a big boat, and wage war on the nice guys and bad boys. I doubt their sensitive natures or flippant attitudes would hold up against an onslaught of temporally displaced vikings.

Or when our girlfriends are busy and we need to vent. Sort of like the "any port in a storm" thing.

Wow. Predator much?

FTR: There are plenty of us who have figured out how to love ourselves without chafing.

Read this. You might learn a thing or two.

I think flux said the most relevant thing yet. For me it seems like it comes down to sense of confidence...the Nice Guy is not comfortable with himself, and so he can't speak directly to women about his feelings. The Bad Boy is also not comfortable with himself, and props himself up by a chain of conquests of women. One is bravado, the other cowardice, but they both come from the same place.

I have the Nice Guy problem, I get nervous about talking to women I'm interested in. Hell, I get nervous talking to a boss, a business associate, a new frisbee team, any asshole in a bar that isn't respecting my space, etc... in other words, I don't think the problem is just limited to women. I've come to feel that what separates Men from Boys, and probably also Women from Girls, is a willingness to be direct, to establish one's space and one's boundaries. And to be comfortable enough in them to defend them against people, both women and men, who violate them. Then, you aren't either of the categories, and you've taken some personal responsibility for your own situation.

It's like that song "Fight Test" by The Flaming Lips

I'm 26, and I still struggle with this, but good luck to the OP. Of course, if you're doing the whole passive aggressive thing where you really want sex but aren't willing to just come out and say it, then as everyone's said, it's all you.

That was really good actually, if not a little frightening. I say this not because I see 'nice guys' as freaky (being a guy I wouldn't; at least not horribly so) but because she just described how I was in High School and early college to a tee.

I was always that over weight, shy, geeky guy in High School and for some reason I fell head over heels for this one girl in my class. I won't go into to many details here, suffice to say she turned me down numerous times but I took me a while to get the hint and by that point I was rather horribly bitter about it all (actually I rather rather bitter about pretty much everything back in those days. Adolences and all)

Reading over that brought back a lot of memories and I truly hope that I'm no longer like that. I personally don't think I am (although I'd be lying if I told you I don't lapse into bitterness from time to time; I am, after all, human), but its rather hard to judge your own actions sometimes as well. hmmmm, something to think about.

Perhaps the key to NOT falling into the trap it to surround yourself with friends who aren't afraid to tell you when your acting like a total douce

Jesus weeping Christ, how many more of these flabby, pale threads are there going to BE?!

Look, guy. I used to be you. I was the quote-unquote "nice guy". And I never got laid. Do you know why? I'm guessing it was the same reason you don't:

YOU.

HAVE.

NO.

SPINE.

I'm serious. Get some confidence, go get some pussy, and stop starting threads like this. Not to sound like a total asshole, but this has GOT to be the 7,394th thread wondering why "nice guys" get fucked instead of doing the fucking themselves.

+1

im going to start a "why do nice guys think they deserve a women when all they ever do is sit at the computer and start threads about how they should be going out with the cool girl...and not the guy who actually asked her out...what a bastard he is" thread.

Wait, I know this one. It's the chimpanzee, right? He's the smartest one.

if you find yourself saying this, thats why youre not getting laid.

So, it took me a while to find the correct viasual reference for this, but here goes.

Semantics are always a sketchy place to go, but I think some definitions are in order here...

Bad Boy

Bad Guy

Many women like Bad Boys. Some women like Bad Guys. So called "Nice Guys" don't understand the difference and assume that the Bad Boy women are actually attracted to Bad Guys. This is somewhat understandable because many women themselves cannot tell the difference due to the middling case where it's pretty amniguous.

Any questions?

I used to care about these threads.......now...not so much.

This is absolutely genius.

Thanks for the link.

Something an acquaintance of mine wrote some years back:

The Pandering Eunuch Brigade

Of particular relevance to this (possibly insincere and sock-puppetish) thread are the 4th and 5th Battalions and the following quote,

"'Nice Guy' tactics are almost universally centered on passive-aggressive emotional manipulation and maintaining the facade off 'nice.' Generally, they try to ensnare a woman into a position where she is making all her decisions based on whether or not they will hurt his feelings."