Inconsiderate lovers

I've heard it far too many times from friends of mine. They get involved with a guy. They have sex with him. He doesn't bother with foreplay or anything that would be considered pleasurable to her. He's there to get in, get his, and get out. Sometimes even to the point of causing discomfort and outright pain to his partner. Then, somehow, it is magically the woman's fault that the sex sucked because she's a "prude" or "frigid". Nevermind the fact that he was completely selfish and not at all considerate of his partner's needs. I've seen a lot of fantastic and very sensual women who have been completely spun by this type and actually believed it WAS their fault because they weren't passionate enough. What bullshit!

I've been lucky enough never to wind up in bed with this kind of guy, but I've met the type. The "I want what I want, you are here to serve me, and to hell with any consideration or respect that you might want!" sort. Like the guy who made an unsolicited grab for my crotch on the first date... acted like I was a complete psycho for taking offense to that, and didn't want to listen when I tried to politely but firmly explain why that wasn't going to fly with me. He was even more mystified when not only did he get no booty, but got his ass booted out of my car and left in the middle of nowhere.

Please explain this to me, because I don't get it. Do these guys spend time around actual women? In the real world? Do they screw anything except blow-up dolls, and their hands? I'm not trying to paint the entire male population with one broad brush, but I've just seen too much of this. What's going on here?

There is a phrase a lot of dudes live by..
"nail and bail"

They arent interested in a relationship, they just want to get their dick wet.

I dunno what the story is, but it makes things a lot easier for the nice guys of the world.

Not everyone is willing to admit that they made a mistake or that they're at fault in an unpleasant situation. It's natural, I think, for many people to feel this way. You can apply this reasoning to almost any situation where a conflict is involved and unravel a large part of why such a conflict took place to start with, or why it continues to spin despite the fact that those participating have forgotten what they were originally going on about.

Instead of facing a flaw in their character or their method, it's easier to point a finger at someone else, driving it home until the finger is either bitten off or the other person is reduced to a grovelling mess. This type of abuse is delicious to them. They create their own bullshit and refuse to get rid of it. This causes them pain and they take it out on others to the point where they thrive on the abuse they're giving. It becomes their purpose in life. In a way, they're pretty much a desolate void of misery that infinitely feeds off of itself. If they were to fix what was bothering them, they'd no longer have anything to complain about, and their lives would be empty.

Well, not necessarily empty. There'd be a lot of positive things left, I think, they just wouldn't know how to deal with any of it, since they've spent perhaps their entire lives doing the opposite.

In short: Some people are just cocksucking assholes. Vaille is also long-winded and boring.

Unfortunately, attempts to open a hunting season on this subset of masculinity have so far failed due to A. the difficulty of telling them apart from the rest of the population and B. a largely pedantic discussion of whether it is legal to take and asshat from a moving vehicle using a bow with a draw weight of over forty pounds. Hopefully once we get these issues sorted out you'll be able to purchase tags at your local sporting goods store and we can start thinning the populations of these varmits.

A man like that would never make it through my rigorous pre-hump screening process.

Women can help squash men like that by merely speaking up about the lack of foreplay, personal lubrication, etc. If you let yourself be treated like a fuck hole... then you are, subsequently, a fuck hole.

Women let men affect their self esteem too much. If a man isn't doing it for you... if he hurts you when he enters you... if the sex is sucking...

You have to pipe up about it.

Become secure in your sexuality Woman Kind!!!!! Damn it!!!!!

Don't worry about the psychology of the fuckwitted wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am men. Worry about your own.

*snarf* Awesome. That is all.

Was that sarcasm? Hard to tell through typed word.

my ex-botfriend was like that, and he NEVER gave me an orgasm...when i told him i didn't think i had ever had one, he had the nerve to tell me that women always have them, the just don't feel it, and that's wh i didn't feel anything!!.....he was the first guy i was ever with, and even the first time we had sex i was so scared i could barely keep my legs open, and he kept yelling at me..........luckily my husband is WAY better than my ex could ever hope to be.......what an idiot!!

My question is, Why oh why would you put up with some hamfisted asscock pummeling your pudenda for more than 15 seconds... ? (if he lasts that long) These little motherfuckers only act like that if someone keeps letting them get away with it.

well, when your young and don't know any better............

what better person to have sex with than someone else who doesn't know what they're doing?

oh ya, that gets me so hot, someone who's lost

Hindsight's a bitch, ain't it?

true, if i was with him now, I would show him a thing or two....

If I can interject that there are a slew of women with the same problem. I pride myself on walking away from a sexual encounter knowing that my partner is quite satisfied. However, call me selfish but I expect that the favor be returned. At the very least, that they make an attempt at returning the favor. There are women out there who refuse to preform oral because it degrades them, but eagerly recieve it. They go so far as to expect it.

While of course this is a mini-rant, I do want to tack on that there are plenty of girls who do their best and have a great attitude sexually. I just wanted to make sure it was known that its not just "nail and bail" males making these mistakes.

How often do inconsiderate lovers know they're inconsiderate lovers? If your partner sucks, they're not going to change unless you speak up and tell they have to shape up.

Mind you, it isn't just males, some women too. People suck & a good chunk are inconsiderate fuckers. It's just part of life sadly enough & fuck wads raising fuck wads are only going to produce more.... fuck wads.

Some people don’t know anything about foreplay & go right to what they know. If you want something & they just go to what they know & you don’t do anything about it, it’s your fault for not communicating your needs. Mind you, they have to be open & if they’re not then there is a problem. It has to go both ways, people can’t read other person’s mind. Communication is key.

I wasn't being sarcastic, and I do suck at internet communication.

Inconsiderate lovers ruin it for "nice guys"

Isn't one of the defining qualities of a good dancer the ability to lead?

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P.S. Sexism is hot.

i think jerob and samaraipuppy hit the nail on the head.....so to speak

How so?

No they don't... most "nice guys" sabotage themselves by being too chickenshit to put their emotions out there and failing to respond to anyone with the kind of intensity that people WANT with that initial relationship romance because of that fear. I've seen too many "nice guys" turn into the aforementioned inconsiderate lovers once they started getting laid.

A lot of guys mistake being introverted for being nice. I don't know too many thoughtful, considerate, passionate and extroverted guys who have a problem finding enthusiastic sex partners.