Great Song/Horrible Production

horrible production? to be honest, i don't consider Tool a "moshing" band, they're more of the type of metal that you sway and bob to and get lost in - like water. But, that's my opinion.

The thing with Rock for Light is that he tried to approach them as a pop band instead of the crunchy punk band they were IMHO...I find the whole album suffers from way to much compression and flanger.

thats pretty odd, i think it standsup as more of a punk record than alot of thier other stuff

I suppose its more of a style prefrence-to me-the guitar sound on Rfl is what every Heavy/distorted guitar would sound like throughout music. Its slick, heavily compressed, rolling flanger sound --listen to the band Quicksand or anything else in that genre and it all sounds the same. I prefer an album like:

That to me is the de facto bad brains sound. That is the great thing about this thread-it boils down to what peoples ears like to hear. IMO any bad brains album (with the exception of the HR free one) is miles above 90% of the bands that came after them. --But that is the great thing about music-it hits people in unique and individual levels

flood ruined melloncollie by the pumpkins

There are definately some albums that I wish they had a few more bucks to increase the production values.

Bab Brains' first album is always at the top of that list for me.

Then you go the opposite direction to the overproduced things, and I always thgink of Sugar's albums after Copper Blue.

I think the MC5's Back In The USA album fits here. I know the apologists have said that the thin sound of that album (the result of a production goof, allegedly) is some sort of "distinct sonic attribute" (from the CD liner notes), but I really would like to hear these songs with some bottom end.

There's a ton of jazz albums on CTI from the '70s that feature Ron Carter on bass. He started playing with a new style of pickup that captured a lot more than the traditional mic pointed at the f-holes. However, for some reason, all the session engineers compressed the shit out of the signal coming from that pickup, so instead of a nice, booming, wooden thump from the bass, it's this high buzzing from the fingerboard that never goes away. Tons of great albums pretty much ruined by that terrible choice.

I thought that at first, and then it became one of my favourites. I'd like to hear a good remastering of it, though. Cohen on CD is not all that it could be.

I highly recommend forcing yourself to listen to it once a month for a year. It'll win you over before summer's over.