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_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

SEP 09, 2005 02:12 PM

An Australian court issued a ruling yesterday that could spell doom for Kazaa, long time haven of those who can't be bothered paying four-fucking-dollars a month to see punk-rock boobies. And file-sharing.

Thirty record companies, including major international labels Universal, EMI, Sony BMG and Warner, had sued Kazaa's Sydney-based developer and distributor Sharman Networks.

They claimed the Kazaa software, which allows users to download music for free over the internet, facilitated copyright infringement on an unprecedented scale.

The court heard Kazaa was downloaded by 317 million people worldwide and used for 79 per cent of peer to peer file-sharing activities, with artists such as Coldplay, Radiohead, Madonna, The Beatles and Powderfinger affected by copyright breaches.

Justice Murray Wilcox found the majority of Kazaa's music files were "shared without the approval of the relevant copyright owner".

The ruling will mean future versions of Kazaa will need to include filters to prevent the trading of copyrighted music works.


Which, if I might make a wild speculation, will lead to the effective death of Kazaa post-haste.

Outside the court, Music Industry Piracy Investigations spokesman Michael Speck said it was a "resounding victory for the music industry".

"This judgment is one of the most important achievements in the fight against music piracy anywhere," Mr Speck said.

"This judgment explodes the myth that illegal file sharing is simply part of the 'internet revolution'.

"It is nothing of the sort and the court's ruling confirms that people who misuse technology should not be able to profit from the creative work of others."

John Kennedy, the chief executive of IFPI, which represents the international music industry, described the ruling as a "milestone in the fight against Internet piracy worldwide".


I doubt that. The constantly growing plethora of file-sharing software has so far proven itself to be something akin to a hydra. At best I suspect the fall of Kazaa will lead to a veritable plague of teenage lowlifes upon the more sophisticated file-sharing networks.

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

SEP 09, 2005 03:11 PM

Do people really still use Kazaa?

I'm all about torrents and LimeWire.

And when they get rid of LimeWire, well... there will be another file-sharing program for me to use.

Steaky

steaky

United Kingdom
May 2004

SEP 09, 2005 03:15 PM

this is a great verdict for the music industry. however its just going to do the same as what the fall of napster did, spawn more of these sites, each as unstable as the next.

xLusTx

xLusTx

Madison, WI
August 2005

SEP 09, 2005 03:16 PM

I'm all for file-sharing. P2P is a great idea and has really helped quite a few bands get their product out to the public. What's the loss of a couple million dollars to an artist (such as Madonna) who can pull in eight million for a thirty second TV commercial? It's a drop of water in an ocean. Fuck greedy celebrities.

As far as I can see, they'll never stop file-sharing without breaching our rights to privacy... Unless they tweak the Constitution a bit...

st0n3

st0n3

Australia
September 2005

SEP 09, 2005 03:25 PM

The media are displaying a typically uneducated view onhow things work online, there are at the very keast another 10 reasonable quality p2p systems running at the moment and they will never be able to stop it completely.
No matter how good they think they can make security measures, there will always be someone who can beat them.

Most judges who make these rulings are aniquated imbeciles who are so far removed from the real world that they will never be able to grasp the real concept of how things work online.

Perhaps if the music industry started charging a reasonable price they would find more people willing to pay for music instead of downloading it.

When I look through my collection of vinyl (yes that mythical beast that so many people miss out on these days and work out how many times i spent over A$20 for a 12" single LP, CD, VIDEO and now DVD's there is more than enough money spent to buy myself a nice new luxury car.

Is there any wonder that when p2p was introduced to me I was like a 5yr old on xmas morning!

If a band I like sells music direct from a website then I will give them my money, but if I continually have to donate money to the pockets of fat greedy industry execs who dont give to fucks about the music or people who listen to it then downloading I will go!

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

SEP 09, 2005 03:29 PM

Seriously, the only people that use the FastTrack network (which is what Kazaa and Grokster use) are bottom feeders downloading bottom of the barrel shit that's been reencoded, resample, and recompressed ad finitum to the point where it's not even worth watching/listening to anymore.

Let it die.

Wendy

Wendy

SUICIDEGIRL

Israel

SEP 09, 2005 03:37 PM

i can't fucking stand when people talk about some band being their "favorite band" and all of the albums they own have either been burned or created on one of these programs.

just my two cents.

SirRavenNekros

SirRavenNekros

Peoria Heights, IL
August 2005

SEP 09, 2005 03:38 PM

*blinks*

*shame*

I still use Kazaa Lite...
I'm not sophisticated o.O

EricdaStone_

EricdaStone_

United Kingdom
September 2005

SEP 09, 2005 03:39 PM

............should not be able to profit from the creative work of others.......but its cool for the mega multi nationals to while they give their artists a standard 3%.......money slags!#

i dont know anyone usin kazzaa, havent for years....

JohnnyForeigner

JohnnyForeigner

United Kingdom
July 2003

SEP 09, 2005 03:40 PM

MorteDaRomance said:
I'm all for file-sharing. P2P is a great idea and has really helped quite a few bands get their product out to the public. What's the loss of a couple million dollars to an artist (such as Madonna) who can pull in eight million for a thirty second TV commercial? It's a drop of water in an ocean. Fuck greedy celebrities.

As far as I can see, they'll never stop file-sharing without breaching our rights to privacy... Unless they tweak the Constitution a bit...



That's one of the main things that bothers me. It always seems to be the richest (Metallica etc) who make the most fuss whatever

EricdaStone_

EricdaStone_

United Kingdom
September 2005

SEP 09, 2005 03:42 PM

............should not be able to profit from the creative work of others.......but its cool for the mega multi nationals to while they give their artists a standard 3%.......money slags!#

i dont know anyone usin kazzaa, havent for years....

Wendy

Wendy

SUICIDEGIRL

Israel

SEP 09, 2005 03:47 PM

Burning_In_Water said:

MorteDaRomance said:
I'm all for file-sharing. P2P is a great idea and has really helped quite a few bands get their product out to the public. What's the loss of a couple million dollars to an artist (such as Madonna) who can pull in eight million for a thirty second TV commercial? It's a drop of water in an ocean. Fuck greedy celebrities.

As far as I can see, they'll never stop file-sharing without breaching our rights to privacy... Unless they tweak the Constitution a bit...



That's one of the main things that bothers me. It always seems to be the richest (Metallica etc) who make the most fuss whatever



well the richest are the only ones who can afford to make the most fuss, really.

[Edited on Sep 09, 2005 by Wendy]

Chitin

Chitin

New York, NY
December 2004

SEP 09, 2005 04:15 PM

Hah. Kazaa's been dead for a while, I think...

coldandwet

coldandwet

United Kingdom
January 2005

SEP 09, 2005 04:21 PM

e-donkey. its all about e-donkey

Steaky

steaky

United Kingdom
May 2004

SEP 09, 2005 04:29 PM

te thing most people dont realise with record sales in a shop of the £15/$15 it costs to buy (im averaging here) the artist is lucky if they see £/$0.70 of the total cost of teh record by the time everyone owed a cut has taken their slice. then they only get that much if they wrote the tracks and dont have a puplishing deal, if they havent then they only get a performers right payout which is usualy a set fee rather thana percentage of the total revenue. its actually the executives of the record companies that profit most from record sales as they recoup the bigest slice of teh cash. after the store and cd production company have had their slice the record co takes 100% of the cash from sales until they have recouped their advance that they have iven the band to make the album with. then they usualy get anything from 50% to 75% of the revenue beyone that, depending on the deal with the artist and publishers

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

SEP 09, 2005 04:34 PM

Haha, you bitch about SG pics being up on Kazaa but that's exactly how I got introduced to this site, way back in the day! Random picture had the www.suicidegirls.com stamp on it and I followed and the rest is history...

Siterips are quite a bit more dangerous, as they're not really free advertising.

KMFCM

KMFCM

Peekskill, NY
September 2002

SEP 09, 2005 04:41 PM



I REALLY thought the whole "Kazaa is full of viruses" thing would've killed that software

lastpenguin

lastpenguin

I'm lost
June 2003

SEP 09, 2005 04:58 PM

Wendy said:
i can't fucking stand when people talk about some band being their "favorite band" and all of the albums they own have either been burned or created on one of these programs.



my thoughts exactly. if you like them so much, buy a goddamn album rather than ripping/downloading their entire back catalogue.

Lost_adaption

Lost_adaption

Kennesaw, GA
August 2005

SEP 09, 2005 05:20 PM

BitLord all the way! Plus Limewire for mp3s ofcourse!

limbictides

limbictides

Richmond, VA
September 2003

SEP 09, 2005 05:26 PM



At best I suspect the fall of Kazaa will lead to a veritable plague of teenage lowlifes upon the more sophisticated file-sharing networks.


That's what I'm afraid of. I hope too much attention dosen't get drawn to the few high quality networks around.

grahf

grahf

New York, NY
September 2002

SEP 09, 2005 05:53 PM

I don't see the real problem with Kazaa. I can find things on Kazaa that I can't on Limewire, and vice versa. I did an experimental search comparision between Kazaa Lite Revolution 2.7 and Limewire 4.9 for some of my favorite artists, and after a few minutes got:

Tom Waits 1306 / 293
Sleater Kinney 113 / 382
Big Black 26 / 53 (but more like 12 / 1 of actual Big Black songs)

So I'm still hanging onto it for my mp3 needs. Besides, it looks like the court decision won't shut down Fast Track if I understand it correctly.

ZCouch

zcouch

Clarksville, IN
October 2004

SEP 09, 2005 06:04 PM

Vestril made a good point, if it wasn't for Kazaa, I wouldn't be a member on this site. Also, if it wasn't for Kazaa, I wouldn't have went out and bought CDs of NWA, Tom Waits, Flogging Molly, Dropkick Murphy's, Public Enemy, Atmosphere, etc.

I guess I am that one person who actually uses file sharing to discover cool bands and then buy their shit.

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

SEP 09, 2005 06:26 PM

I've tried intermittently to use kazaa, it doesn't seem to work for me...I'm sureprised it's still around.

xxbettie_pagexx

xxbettie_pagexx

Florence, NJ
January 2005

SEP 09, 2005 06:33 PM

"punk-rock boobies."

Which are different from regular boobies, how?

MistahPrince

MistahPrince

Chicago, IL
February 2005

SEP 09, 2005 06:35 PM

Pfft. Soulseek and BitTorrent for teh win.

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