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ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

SEP 13, 2004 07:55 PM

i've been wanting to pick up some death in june, but don't really know where to start. i don't know much about how they sound but i've been told they play noisy experimental type stuff. i read a review on amazon.com for 'but what happens when symbols shatter?' and it sounds pretty intersting. if anyone knows where i can find some good reviews for them, i'd appriciate it. also, since their stuff is really hard to find and is pretty much all imports, any info on a good place to find their stuff for a decent price would also come in handy. thanks. smile

sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

SEP 13, 2004 08:01 PM

these:

Nature Unveiled
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 4) First pressing limited to 1000 copies with red insert and free 7" {UK}
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 4) Second pressing limited to 1000 copies, darker cover, white insert, no 7" {UK}
(1990 Maldoror MAL 123) Reissue in different sleeve, no insert, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Dogs Blood Rising
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 8) First pressing with insert {Belgium}
(1988 Laylah Antirecords LAY 8) Reissue with different center label, different inserts {Belgium}

Live at Bar Maldoror
(1985 Mi-Mort I) First pressing with seals on sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1987 Mi-Mort I) Reissue in different sleeve, no seals, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

In Menstrual Night
(1986 United Dairies/Maldoror UD 022/M) Picture disc, limited to 2000 copies, first 93 signed and numbered {UK}
(1986 United Dairies/Maldoror UD 022/M) Test pressing, limited to 19 copies with handmade sleeves {UK}
(1988 United Dairies UD 022) Regular vinyl with picture sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Dawn
(1987 Maldoror MAL 093) First pressing limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1989 Maldoror MAL 093) Reissue in slightly different sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Imperium
(1987 Maldoror MAL 777) First pressing with insert, one track edited down shorter, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1989 Maldoror MAL 777) Second pressing with different center label, no insert, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(2002 Durtro 008) Third pressing remastered with extra track and printed inner sleeve, limited to 1200 copies {UK}

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Unless you like experimental folk, I don't think I'd pick up anything after and including Swastikas for Noddy.

Live at Bar Maldoror is very good indeed.

lamdalamdalamda

lamdalamdalamda

Chicago, IL
February 2003

SEP 13, 2004 08:22 PM

you recomended only current93 albums, but they are awesome, better than dij, i think. especially if you want the noise stuff. however, the reviews on allmusic are pretty accurate. my personal faves are: cathedral of tears, the corn years, wall of sacrifice, and 93 dead sunwheels. the comp disciminate has a lot of their stuff from different eras, but none of the industrial noise stuff he did earlier.

sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

SEP 14, 2004 07:13 AM

id say 93 dead sunwheels, yes. it does very so it depends on what they original poster likes.

ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

SEP 14, 2004 03:40 PM

i like noise, but the idea of experimental folk sounds pretty intersting to me too. i'm gonna ask the guy at my local record store what he thinks later. he had a bunch of death in june, but i think they sold everything.

atxJIM

atxJIM

Chapel Hill, NC
May 2003

SEP 14, 2004 06:51 PM

Sadistic_Miike said:
these:

Nature Unveiled
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 4) First pressing limited to 1000 copies with red insert and free 7" {UK}
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 4) Second pressing limited to 1000 copies, darker cover, white insert, no 7" {UK}
(1990 Maldoror MAL 123) Reissue in different sleeve, no insert, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Dogs Blood Rising
(1984 Laylah Antirecords LAY 8) First pressing with insert {Belgium}
(1988 Laylah Antirecords LAY 8) Reissue with different center label, different inserts {Belgium}

Live at Bar Maldoror
(1985 Mi-Mort I) First pressing with seals on sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1987 Mi-Mort I) Reissue in different sleeve, no seals, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

In Menstrual Night
(1986 United Dairies/Maldoror UD 022/M) Picture disc, limited to 2000 copies, first 93 signed and numbered {UK}
(1986 United Dairies/Maldoror UD 022/M) Test pressing, limited to 19 copies with handmade sleeves {UK}
(1988 United Dairies UD 022) Regular vinyl with picture sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Dawn
(1987 Maldoror MAL 093) First pressing limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1989 Maldoror MAL 093) Reissue in slightly different sleeve, limited to 2000 copies {UK}

Imperium
(1987 Maldoror MAL 777) First pressing with insert, one track edited down shorter, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(1989 Maldoror MAL 777) Second pressing with different center label, no insert, limited to 2000 copies {UK}
(2002 Durtro 008) Third pressing remastered with extra track and printed inner sleeve, limited to 1200 copies {UK}

````

Unless you like experimental folk, I don't think I'd pick up anything after and including Swastikas for Noddy.

Live at Bar Maldoror is very good indeed.



None of these are Death In June records/cds
All of them Are Current 93 and yes they are great (most of the time) and Douglas P. is all over a lot of them, but they are NOT Death in June ........

The more recent DIJ stuff has been more noisy...
for the middle period stuff ; "The Corn Years" or "Discriminate" might be a good starting point... both are compilations....
If you wanna go straight to the source cd's:
"The Brown Book"
"The World That Summer"
"The Wall of Sacrifice"

"But what ends...." is a good one as well as "Rose Clouds of Holocaust"

for more recent stuff
"Take Care and Control"
"Operation Hummingbird"
"All Pigs Must Die"

For Earlier Stuff
"The Guilty have No Past "
and "Nada"


sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

SEP 14, 2004 06:59 PM

It's been since about 1988 or so, so I get them mixed up at times, I sold most of my Death in June, but NADA was great, and had originally a textured cover.

Nixon

Nixon

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

SEP 14, 2004 07:02 PM

I always think of 'The Corn Years' as classic Death in June, but it's not really noise.

ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

SEP 14, 2004 10:59 PM

i asked the owner of a local record place today about what's some good death in june (which is one of his favorite bands i found out) and he said most of their stuff isn't really noisy, though some of their early stuff is more 'synth pop' type stuff. wish i could remember where i heard them refered to as noise. me thinks i got confused with labels such as 'electronic' 'industrial' and 'experimental' being thorwn around to describe them. i listened to 'the guilty have no pride' and liked it, though i found out he order 'but what ends...' so i'll probably wait until that comes in. this is a little off subject but i saw a cool noise show at the aformentioned store with EMIL BEAULIEAU, CRANK STURGEON, and PRURIENT. emil was really nice and talked with everyone. he even let me guy some tapes after i was a little short after giving some change to a bum.

ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

DEC 02, 2004 05:14 PM

i just picked up 'but what ends when the symbols shatter' yesterday and like it. i'd say it's folk with industrial influences. i like the use of horns. right now i'm diggin' on the songs he's dissabled, little black angel, and but what ends... maybe i'll pick some more up while i'm in europe and won't have to pay $18 cuz it's an import. little intimidated by their discography as it seems large and complicated.

ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

MAR 14, 2005 10:42 AM

well, i'm in europe right now and have listened to the 'but what ends...' and 'discriminate' cd mix i made quite a bit. i've looked for some more cd's over here, but have had zero luck finding any of their stuff in every store i've looked. also, because cd's are more expensive and with the shitty exchange rate, i think i'll wait 'till i get back to the states to expand my collection.

boxing_helena

boxing_helena

Los Angeles, CA
April 2004

MAR 14, 2005 05:36 PM

rose clouds of holocaust is a bit more on the folky side, you might like that.

boxing_helena

boxing_helena

Los Angeles, CA
April 2004

MAR 14, 2005 05:41 PM

you might also like "music, martinis, and misanthropy" by boyd rice and friends if you havn't already heard it.

ms_n_thrope

ms_n_thrope

Columbia, MO
August 2004

NOV 17, 2005 11:09 PM

boxing_helena said:
you might also like "music, martinis, and misanthropy" by boyd rice and friends if you havn't already heard it.


i've been beefing up my collection and as of now have but what ends..., rose clouds..., brown book, discriminate, nada, and take care and control. the last is a bit too experimental for my tastes.
i would like to get the boyd rice cd, but unfortunately as far as i can tell, it's out of print.
not really sure what to think about their whole 'pho-fascist' image at times. it seems to me if they were really serious about it, they would be doing more than just making references about the 3rd reich in songs and putting the todeskopf on their cd's and merchandise.

illstabyou

illstabyou

Brooklyn, NY
March 2004

NOV 18, 2005 04:53 AM

Brown Book is excellent -- I see you already have that.

Onibubba

Onibubba

Hopkinsville, KY
October 2004

NOV 18, 2005 08:15 AM

ms_n_thrope said:
not really sure what to think about their whole 'pho-fascist' image at times. it seems to me if they were really serious about it, they would be doing more than just making references about the 3rd reich in songs and putting the todeskopf on their cd's and merchandise.



Been unsure about that as well - How much is symolism, how much is shock, how much is just a love for order and pretty uniforms. I kind of gave up on them several years ago, not because of that, but because the musical direction Douglas was taking just was not working for me.

The earlier stuff is really worth getting, and it sounds like you have about all of what really mattered. I would definately add Corn Years and Nada! I would recommend some of the albums he did with Current 93 - But then I am a MUCH bigger fan of theirs - Earth Covers Earth and Swastikas for Noddy. Also the first Nature and Organization. Douglas sings on a few tracks on that.

Also, as long as you are digging on the Apoc-Folk aspects of DIJ, I'd give some Current 93 a try. Start with their best, Thunderperfectmind, All the Pretty Horsies, Island, and Imperium. Then maybe some Sol Invictus. The new one, the Devil's Steed is a great start. If you really liked the really old Death in June, try some OLD (stay far away from anything new!) Sixth Comm, and Crisis, the first band with Sol Invictus' Tony Wakeford, DIJ's Douglas Pearce, and Patrick Leagas of Sixth Comm. Their sound is kind of like a not as polished Warsaw.