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partiallyblind

partiallyblind

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

NOV 02, 2002 12:08 PM

noremorse said:
Christina Aguilera is a low-talent clown whore.
...
Maybe you could purchase a real album?

n/p - Mortiis - You Put A Hex On Me



mortiis is the guy with the fake nose and goblin ears isn't he? that sounds pretty fucking clown like to me...

biggrin

joyrider

joyrider

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

NOV 02, 2002 12:13 PM

i have no problems with christina aguilera. or pink, for that matter. i dated an english girl for a while and developed a thing for kylie minogue, even.

music's fairly subjective. different people dig on different things. whatever.

if you listen to anything cracking the billboard 200 or that has a video on MTV2, you listen to pop music - don't kid yourself.

christine3782

christine3782

Olympia, WA
OLD SKOOL

NOV 02, 2002 12:23 PM

noremorse said:
Christina Aguilera is a low-talent clown whore. There are tons of girls out there with vocal cords like hers. Nothing spectacular at all. I encourage you guys to save your $11.99 for something else. Maybe you could purchase a real album?

n/p - Mortiis - You Put A Hex On Me



Shooting fish in a barrel, folks.

Joyrider, thanks for pointing that out for everyone who, for whatever reason, can't see it.

Why can I not stay away from this thread? biggrin

BoxterJulep

BoxterJulep

San Francisco, CA
October 2002

NOV 02, 2002 12:41 PM

Wasn't she a mouseketeer? like britney, like all of THEM? [SG and disneyland yo] They all seem to be wanting to shed their image these days.

huny

huny

Bronx, NY
OLD SKOOL

NOV 02, 2002 01:56 PM

joyrider said:
if you listen to anything cracking the billboard 200 or that has a video on MTV2, you listen to pop music - don't kid yourself.



thank you.

I used to want to be on the mickey mouse club SO damn bad as a kid. I was a big fan of the first neo class which included JC from N'SYNC and that chick that played felicity, keri russell. I stopped watching it when the younger class with christina and britney came along and it got cancelled a season later anyway I believe. now I'm glad my parents wouldn't let me fly to florida for the audition...how terrible would it be if I couldn't be taken seriously now by so-called alternakiddies because of a gig I had as a fucking 14 year old? whatever

I cannot believe I'm actually defending mouseketeers. don't tell. I wouldn't want to get my ghetto pass revoked. whatever

I can't stop using that face. shit. someone might think I'm a sarcastic smartass...and I really wouldn't want that.

1madgirl

1madgirl

I'm lost
September 2002

NOV 02, 2002 02:27 PM

I'm sorry, any chick that simulates female masterbation in a music video gets elevated to "my personal hero" status. The only person knock her out of the top Madgirl spotlight right now is Missy Elliot, for her new video "Work It" because she holds up a ball of her shaved pubic hair. Hilarious.

oh_me_ghost

oh_me_ghost

I'm lost
September 2002

NOV 02, 2002 08:01 PM

Such anger!! Yikes. Here’s a more detailed explanation if you like.

1. Christina has vocal skills in my opinion.
2. Some people save the I’m-a-slut routine for when the lights are out, which is fine. But I like that Christina does not care about “conventional” moors about how a woman must behave in public. In effect she says, I will do what come naturally, and dress in a manner that I like, and if you call me a slut, then you can kiss my ass. In that respect she is both sexy and a bitch which is fantastic.
3. Christina is not pretending to be somebody other than who she is. Especially with this new album. The assumption is that she’s being slutty for money. So? Why does that reflect badly on her? The other assumption is that she’s somehow not talented, which can be outright dismissed. You get up on stage and impress me with a song like “beautiful” and maybe I’ll reevaluate.
4. A shaman is a spiritual clown that is concerned about the well-being of others. A shaman is not a catholic priest that moans about vegetables, or some reserved and dignified Native American elder. I’m not actually capable of going much further into a description of a shaman, but suffice it to say clown is typically a part of it. By the term shaman-pop, I was being tongue in cheek yes, but I’ll stand by it because it’s not outlandish at all. Her look reminds me of a shaman woman, there is soulfulness in her voice, and I found an honesty that was unexpected. This album covers personal abuse from her father, and a lot of songs deal with the aspect of being yourself in a world that would have you acquiesce and bend to the will of others. The message throughout the album stripped is to be you. The wordplay being, this is me “stripped”, this is me “naked” in front of you. Her songs shows that she cares about other girls, like her, who will inevitably experience the same society that tries to fit people into one of the readily available categories at the expense of their true selves. So in a way, there is some *medicine* in there for people that feel there true selves have been perhaps neglected. So shaman-pop, yes. Fuckin-a yes.
5. Also, Linda Perry’s influenced can be heard. Linda Perry could be squeezed into the shaman-pop category too. When I make a word up, I don’t stop using it.
6. In the end, I’m a sucker for the long drawn-out yell. I eat it up. I drink it down like a steaming cup of chai. Christina’s got it down like none other.
7. Actually, it’s fine that people hate her. Hatred is healthy. I probably would have jumped on the old hatred bandwagon too if I hadn’t heard the new album which I enjoy. After reading all the hatred on the thread though, her album actually makes more sense. Women think she’s a sell-out and a slut. Men think she’s a clown and a prostitute. And so her songs become a way of really standing up under the weight of the negativity: “they can say all the want to say about me, but I’m going to carry on, I’m gonna keep on singing my song” or “wasted so much energy on what they thought of me” and so forth. Its almost in every song, like she’s quite aware of the type of opinions that surround her and was actually very sensitive to such opinions, to the point where it sometimes made her miserable, but no more. Its really a good album.
8. When I find myself hating an extremely succesful woman that I’ve never actually met, I like to pause and evaluate the cause. Is she truly a soulless talentless money whore or hack who would sell her own mother for a dollar? I don’t see any evidence of that. I don’t think she gets naked to sell records, so much as she truly enjoys wearing revealing clothes and has a fashion sense all her own. Christina’s musical goals are perhaps different than you or I would like them to be (indeed, I would prefer her to branch further away from the whole “pop” marketplace) but she achieves the musical goals that she set out for herself on this album. There is musical artistry to be found on stripped.

Thanks to everyone that posted on the thread. If you hate Christina Aguilera, you probably shouldn’t buy the album. But if you buy it, you might be surprised by the maturity that you find in it.

noremorse

noremorse

I'm lost
September 2002

NOV 03, 2002 04:08 PM

partiallyblind said:

noremorse said:
Christina Aguilera is a low-talent clown whore.
...
Maybe you could purchase a real album?

n/p - Mortiis - You Put A Hex On Me



mortiis is the guy with the fake nose and goblin ears isn't he? that sounds pretty fucking clown like to me...

biggrin




They arent really fake anymore. He had surgery to alter his appearance perm. He is a former member of the band Emperor who decided that playing keyboards and being all industrial was cooler than being black metal. He also had to leave the country at the time he was in Emperor cause his life was being threatened. No one really knows why or by whom. He just left and never came back. tongue

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

NOV 03, 2002 04:16 PM

I just HATE the fact that she's on the cover of Rolling Stone's women in rock issue. She and two OTHER airbrushed blond girls. Because rolling stone doesn't care one whit for talent, obviously, as long as the girl will pose nude or sexily for their cover.

1madgirl

1madgirl

I'm lost
September 2002

NOV 03, 2002 08:22 PM

she's not on the cover of the women in rock issue. that's Brittney Spears, Shakhira, and Mary Blige.

Lesa

Lesa

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

NOV 03, 2002 08:40 PM

TheCheat said:

Lesa said:
She sings her ass off, and she always has. This is why I don't understand why she feels the need to SHOW her ass as well. I have nothing against nudity or erotica (OBVIOUSLY!) I'm just saying -



that it's a distraction and precludes the possibility of being taken seriously? That if she wants to be taken seriously, she'd best learn play down her body and/or sexuality?

I don't know whether this thing she's trying out was her idea or her label's, but just for the sake of argument let's assume that it's her's, and that she's happy with and proud of her sex appeal and wants the world to know it. I mean, that's the kind of thing we encourage here, right? If that's the case, then why shouldn't it be part of who she is and what she does?

I don't really like what you're saying, but it's absolutely valid. People who flaunt their sexuality aren't taken seriously. So if that's what she wants, she'd better work with the system and tone things down a bit.

[Edited on Nov 02, 2002 by TheCheat]



You seem to have misunderstood me, but that's okay - I'm used to it. whatever

Lesa

Lesa

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

NOV 03, 2002 08:43 PM

noremorse said:
Christina Aguilera is a low-talent clown whore. There




I think you've mistaken her with the REAL low-talent clown whore whose name begins with a C and also sports blonde hair.

joyrider

joyrider

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

NOV 03, 2002 08:45 PM

1madgirl said:
she's not on the cover of the women in rock issue. that's Brittney Spears, Shakhira, and Mary Blige.



but she is on the newest issue, all nekkid and stuff.

christine3782

christine3782

Olympia, WA
OLD SKOOL

NOV 03, 2002 10:00 PM

Lesa said:
You seem to have misunderstood me, but that's okay - I'm used to it. whatever



You weren't saying that she has enough vocal talent that it should be unnecessary for her to use her body to further her career?

Looking back at my post, it came off as a little crankier than it was meant to.

[Edited on Nov 03, 2002 by TheCheat]

KekiFace

KekiFace

Fort Riley, KS
April 2010

MAY 22, 2010 01:33 PM

Such hate!

Im a MAJOR Christina Aguilera fan...but there's nothing but hate in this thread!

How rude!

*~KeKi~*

BatAttaK

BatAttaK

Tacoma, WA
OLD SKOOL

MAY 22, 2010 01:41 PM


A. This thread is almost eight years old. You were barely 19 when these opinions were uttered.

B. The vast majority of these people are no longer on this site and will never know of your disapproval.

C. Props on using the search function! biggrin



BatAttaK

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

MAY 22, 2010 01:54 PM

BatAttaK said:

A. This thread is almost eight years old. You were barely 19 when these opinions were uttered.

B. The vast majority of these people are no longer on this site and will never know of your disapproval.

C. Props on using the search function! biggrin



BatAttaK



Personally, I LOVE really old thread revivals. They're always a nice little time capsul of what people were thinking back in the day (mind you, most of it is the same hate fille spew that gets thrown around today. But the TARGETS are different, which makes it interesting biggrin )
Hell, I wasn't even a member back in 02, not joining until 03. And so, I feel comfortable saying this: "Those '02 people were a bunch of douchebags!" biggrin

Clio

Clio

SUICIDEGIRL

Netherlands

MAY 22, 2010 01:57 PM

holy thread revival!

Pip

Pip

Framingham, MA
OLD SKOOL

MAY 22, 2010 05:39 PM

Christina has gotten hotter with age.

KekiFace

KekiFace

Fort Riley, KS
April 2010

MAY 22, 2010 09:34 PM

Pip said:
Christina has gotten hotter with age.



Yes, Thank you!

Abrupt

Abrupt

HOPEFUL

Plymouth, WI

MAY 24, 2010 09:26 PM

IDK anything about Christina except she made it big so GO HER but this thread title was pure trickery!

I was tricked into it!!

For any others tricked..........


KekiFace

KekiFace

Fort Riley, KS
April 2010

MAY 25, 2010 06:52 AM

Haha! Those last ones are awesome...It aint Her, but its funny!

kiss
*~KeKi~*

Abrupt

Abrupt

HOPEFUL

Plymouth, WI

MAY 25, 2010 09:07 PM

KekiFace said:
Haha! Those last ones are awesome...It aint Her, but its funny!

kiss
*~KeKi~*




biggrin Right!!!

KekiFace

KekiFace

Fort Riley, KS
April 2010

MAY 26, 2010 06:17 AM

Lol!!!!

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

MAY 26, 2010 08:20 AM

OMG!!

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