Bikini Kill

everyone needs to be reminded this band. i feel like they have fallen to off the radar screen of really really good bands. thoughts?

I like fucking is a good song.

damn double posts.

[Edited on Jul 07, 2004 by theangus]

i kinda stopped paying attention - what are they up to NOW?

shake it up--dee doo

Yes. They are also on Chicks On Speed records.

the smallness of this thread depresses me

i loved bikini kill. i sort of relate them now to being in my first year of art school and being young, pent up, and gnarly. i think i also more or less got my first girlfriend back then for declaring that bikini kill were better than nirvana, which i still think. i guess i think / thought kathleen hanna just had a lot more to say. and the music still sounds fucking great.

*sigh*

oh the good old days. . .

[Edited on Jul 08, 2004 by verlaine]

feels blind - still chocks me up when i hear it

I know. I love the bundled version of their first two LPs, especially the very first song, "Double Dare Ya" -- in my opinion the closest, in spirit, America ever had to its own Sex Pistols. But yeah, I like listening to music I can sing along to, and listening to them gives you the distinct feeling (if you're male) that you should just go shoot yourself in the head --- even worse if you're a guy singing along to "Suck My Left One".

i almost ought their LP today...funny i didnt though

a long time ago, a friend of mine was looking through my cds and she spotted my bikini kill +the cd version of the first two records+ ...and she said, "what are you doing with this? why do you have this?" i guess i wasn't allowed to like bikini kill cos i'm a boy or something. i didn't care. i liked bikini kill. but i read that kathleen got really bored with how monotonous they sounded. to be honest, i think bikini kill was a good band, but i like le tigre a lot more.

they fucking rock.

For bands from that period that had an agenda, Huggy Bear were better by a far sight.

It was weird, but the change in attitude from the later days of the riot grrl scene to the current attitudes in whatever it's called that's inherited that whole vein of music is pretty refreshing. Going to a Le Tigre show ca. now v. an F-80, Excuse 17, etc. show back then are two totally different experiences. I don't know what that says about now versus then, other then the people who moved within those circles eventually picked up on inclusion being more useful than exclusion.

i remember getting very hostile looks when i first saw sleater kinney, but haven't noticed anything like that at similar shows since. it could've been the fact that i was hogging the space in front of the stage where corin was. as soon as they started, i got shoved out of the way, anyhow.

anyways, my girlfriend is completely infatuated with kathleen hannah in the sonic youth "bull in the heather" video.

I think with a newly reformed Team Dresch hitting the road this whole scene might get some much needed exposure for the people who were to young to catch it the first time around....I mean being a bit older ( 5 days shy of 30) and having gone to college in Portland OR circa 94 that whole scene was huge.....and I always loved all the female fronted bands because they were saying something a lot more interesting then many of the bands out there. I just made a mix chock full of : lois, huggy bear, bratmobile, team Dresch, the Geds,rattlecake, the crabs, et al.....and it really holds up well and fits the current climate in our culture quite well.....so hopefully maybe some people will see this thread and go DL a song and find that spark again...

So, do you feel like the generally unfriendly-toward-males/unwelcoming attitude was a by-product of the fans and hangers-on, or an agenda explicitly pushed by some of the bands. TD were nice, but then Bikini Kill weren't, and so on.

In reply to the above 2 posts idjitt is dead on...as someone who played in the same era and even shared a stage or two with groups from that scene it could be brutal.....I watched a group of rabid fans really tear into Pansy Division at a mainly girl-focused show and they are all homosexual....but hey just go read the thread about men who shout at woman...I think we deserve some of the heat.....and Donna was a nice person--I only met her briefly but found her to be more then open to talk with men and woman alike...quite funny. just a little food for thought

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[Edited on Jul 08, 2004 by coldenginelogic]

it is indeed sad how few hits this has had but, i love bikini kill and what they stand for. i always have and always will. i dont give a fuck who doesn't want me listening to it. i say fuck you! bikini kill was an important part in my life, not a huge part, but important. and thats what matters.

When I went to "girl" shows like Sleater Kinney, The Red Aunts, Third Sex, and even lesser known ones, I chilled in the back. I liked the music, but thought it best to just stay the fudge out of the way of the angry ladies. It is a no win situation. And how many times did I hear a band saying "boys in the back, girls up front?" Well, more than once we'll say.

KH---"The music is not separate from our political ideas and we really can't choose one or the other. We don't think that art or music can replace political activism, but we think it can be an important part of a culture of resistance so that social change feels possible. We want to make great music that radical people can recognize their values in, because that is what we ourselves crave."

yes they did ask men to step to the back and handed out lyric sheets to the girls...but why is that viewed as "Femanazi". Everytime I hear someone say that --it really burns me out --because they never say oh, fuck black flag they are straightedge wankers ( six pack, Tv party) ....or screw bad brains I just can't dig on the whole pot trip......they were making vital music for young girls who really had nothing to look up to or feel empowered by.....but it always seemed to me that they were trying to empower men and women through the politics.....so watch out about the terms you throw around here...cause I really doubt that you have listened to much of their stuff.....I am not preaching but music has no boundries.....only we as people can put boundries on it...

ooo i havent listened to them sence high school!!

First off at 34 Kathleen (it is safe to assume) has a better grasp on female empowerment then you at 22 would have......second, you have never met a riiiot girl because you were not even old enough to be around......opinions are a lot like the chevy NOVA.....and I will leave it that....and you are more than welcome to express yours ......I just suggested that you might what to rethink the labels that you throw on things...maybe you need to let some more of that inner-empowerment shine through

How about the Yeasty Girlz! Anyone remember them? The were the origional riot girls