So many bands these days are such shit. So my question is, who the fuck cares about the latest trends in music? Don't get me wrong, there are some great "new" bands out there, but they are few and far between. The majority of what I see in pop-culture is so bland and just sad. Regardless of genre it seems that pop is not what it used to be.
Pop changes with the generations. Jimi Hendrix considered himself pop music. There are always going to be elitist snobs who think pop is crap, and 20 years down the road find themselves thinking some of the stuff that thought was crap is actually decent music. Granted, some of it will still be crap then, but you'll find some nuggets that you shunned back then.
I absolutly hate any band that anyone has ever heard of, ever. If they have an album, they are sellouts. If they make money, they are corporate shills. If they are popular, they are playing for the lowest common denominator of the sheeple people.
/sarcasm overload
Pop music is defined by it's name: pop. As in "popular". People can listen to what they want. If a band reaches a certain number of people, they become "pop". It isn't a genre . . . it's whatever people enjoy listening to.
Coyotemike said:
Pop music is defined by it's name: pop. As in "popular". People can listen to what they want. If a band reaches a certain number of people, they become "pop". It isn't a genre . . . it's whatever people enjoy listening to.
I don't entirely agree. I mean, that's how the term originated, but it's taken on a distinct meaning relating to a type of music too. Metallica have sold more records than Kylie Minogue, but I'd only call the latter pop music.
I just love when people complain about pop culture. It's funny. They're complaining, as far as I can figure, because too many people are into the same thing at once. They conveniently forget that everybody can make their own choices in music, entertainment, fashion, etc etc etc for whatever reason they want. Some people don't feel the need to dig deeply into a music scene. Some people like to listen to what is on the radio simply because they like to listen to what is on the radio. Maybe they have deeper interests elsewhere. There are people who like elevator music and wear golf-pants on the weekends. Let 'em. It's their life, and they have just as much right to their subculture as anyone else.
I should clarify that this isn't some rant about how bands are only cool when they're "underground" and bands that are "popular" suck. Most of the music I listen to is from the 80's, but most of those bands that I like most were huge in the 80's. Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Clash, etc. So again, I really don't give a shit if a band's popular, but I do give a shit when it seems that there aren't any really solid contemporary pop bands making interesting music with interesting lyrics. Or maybe those bands are out there and I'm just not seeing it.
thefaintestcry said:
I should clarify that this isn't some rant about how bands are only cool when they're "underground" and bands that are "popular" suck. Most of the music I listen to is from the 80's, but most of those bands that I like most were huge in the 80's. Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Clash, etc. So again, I really don't give a shit if a band's popular, but I do give a shit when it seems that there aren't any really solid contemporary pop bands making interesting music with interesting lyrics. Or maybe those bands are out there and I'm just not seeing it.
It is hard to tell. There are so many more viable genres than there were in the 80's.
thefaintestcry said:
I should clarify that this isn't some rant about how bands are only cool when they're "underground" and bands that are "popular" suck. Most of the music I listen to is from the 80's, but most of those bands that I like most were huge in the 80's. Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Clash, etc. So again, I really don't give a shit if a band's popular, but I do give a shit when it seems that there aren't any really solid contemporary pop bands making interesting music with interesting lyrics. Or maybe those bands are out there and I'm just not seeing it.
I would hardly call Depeche Mode and The Cure (and others) HUGE in the eighties in the US. Being a fan of both mostly got me beat up in high school. They had no mainstream airplay and limited play on MTV outside of 120 Minutes and Alternative Nation.
The mainstream acceptance of the entire genre of "alternative" music didn't happen until the early/mid-nineties.
So, I still don't really understand what you are getting at.
I mean, I guess I do... but I don't really give a shit about it in the music business. There's so much out there and it doesn't take much effort to find it.
I think if you re-worded the title and OP to say "Top 40", then you'd have a better thread.
I love the Top 40 of the 60's and 70's, but now, all this overproduced, radio-friendly, MTV-loving, Top 40 shit is... well... shit. These days you gotta hit the underground and independent labels to get really good music. Or, you could be like me and refuse to listen to anything released past 1979 (Actually, I also listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn, Guns N' Roses, Nirvana, and tons of modern underground Blues, Psychedelic, Acoustic, and Prog... so that's not actually true).
lil_tuffy said:
I would hardly call Depeche Mode and The Cure (and others) HUGE in the eighties in the US. Being a fan of both mostly got me beat up in high school. They had no mainstream airplay and limited play on MTV outside of 120 Minutes and Alternative Nation.
Oh that's right, you guys didn't have KROQ up there, did you? Back then they were playing everything from Depeche to INXS to Flock of Seagulls to Haircut 100 (and other one-hit-wonders of that day) to The Police and everything in-between and around.
lil_tuffy said:
I would hardly call Depeche Mode and The Cure (and others) HUGE in the eighties in the US. Being a fan of both mostly got me beat up in high school. They had no mainstream airplay and limited play on MTV outside of 120 Minutes and Alternative Nation.
Oh that's right, you guys didn't have KROQ up there, did you? Back then they were playing everything from Depeche to INXS to Flock of Seagulls to Haircut 100 (and other one-hit-wonders of that day) to The Police and everything in-between and around.
Here too. Living in the NYC suburbs had it's privileges.
I will bet that growing up in the NY 'burbs was WAY better than the L.A. 'burbs though. Agoura Hills wasn't exactly a fun place when you aren't old enough to drive. Radio, BMXing, tv, and pot were like the best/only things going there...heh!
So perhaps my comment on The Cure and Depeche Mode being huge was a bit hyperbolic, but I have grown up in Southern California and KROQ used to be a truly interesting station that gave great bands some air time. I guess what I need to ask is which contemporary musical artists (popular or not) are going to still be listened to in ten, twenty, thirty years?
thefaintestcry said:
I guess what I need to ask is which contemporary musical artists (popular or not) are going to still be listened to in ten, twenty, thirty years?
Why are you worried about that? Just listen to what you like now and let the future people worry about their own musical tastes.
thefaintestcry
Claremont, CA
July 2009
AUG 06, 2009 12:15 AM