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MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

JUL 22, 2006 09:15 AM

Grandmaster Flash- The Message

Afrika Bambaataa- Renegades of Funk

Kool Moe Dee- How Ya Like Me Now

Beastie Boys- Shake Your Rump

Run DMC- It's Like That

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

JUL 22, 2006 03:04 PM

_panda_ said:

eightzeroone said:

Flux said:
Oh, and "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa.



Indeed.

madferit said:
here's how i break it down.... crude but to the point
pre run dmc
run dmc to public enemy
public enemy to hip hop
hip hop to present day



I'm interested in what you mean by "hip hop" being post-public enemy since the term originated in the early/mid 70s.



Post public enemy means to me when it went from MCing to Dance music with breaks of woman singing ballads in the middle of the rap.



Baby, I gotcha money, don't you worry...

Jay_Blank

Jay_Blank

Brooklyn, NY
July 2006

JUL 22, 2006 04:47 PM

So Whatcha Sayin - EPMD

Rock the Bells - LL

Wrath of Kane - Kane

Radioactive - Downtown Science

Coolin in Cali - 7A3

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 22, 2006 08:04 PM

NoFi said:
oh...and Subterranean Homesick Blues by bob dylan.



Actually, Red Sovine is actually the white man who invented rap.

Teddy Bear
Phantom 309
Giddyup Go Daddy

Viva

Viva

Las Vegas, NV
August 2004

JUL 22, 2006 08:44 PM

JayRAtch said:
So Whatcha Sayin - EPMD

Rock the Bells - LL

Wrath of Kane - Kane

Radioactive - Downtown Science

Coolin in Cali - 7A3



finally someone says Kane

_panda_

_panda_

I'm lost
November 2005

JUL 22, 2006 08:49 PM

brooklyn bridge - marle marl
how do you like me now - kool moe dee
rock the bells - ll cool j
why is it fresh - fresh mcs
La di da di - Slick Rick

and roxanne, roxanne - UTFO

ok, so its my second list.

AkiraLi

AkiraLi

Norristown, PA
March 2003

JUL 22, 2006 09:08 PM

Flux said:
Yeah.

Sometimes people use "old school rap" to mean "rap, ten years old or more, that white hipster kids* can feel okay about listening to," kind of like how some people use "hip-hop" to mean "rap that I have decided isn't lame." But, seriously, Tribe? I love me some Tribe, but, erh, no.

*No offense intended to you white hipster kids out there.



Oh, and "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa.



Yeah, we're friends for a good reason. smile

1. "I Ain't No Joke" - Eric B & Rakim
2. "Planet Rock"- Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force
3. "White Lines" - Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
4. "P.S.K. (What Does It Mean?)- Schooly D
5. "The Message" - Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five

Honorable mention because they fall slightly outside of the "old school" window:
"Ego Trippin'", "Kool Keith Housing Things", "Give The Drummer Some"- Ultramagnetic MCs

"Follow The Leader", "Microphone Fiend", "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em", "Casualties Of War", "Know The Ledge"- Eric B & Rakim

"Strictly Business", "I'm Housing", "You Gots To Chill"-EPMD

"The Symphony"- The Juice Crew

"Talk Like Sex", "Road To Riches", "Men At Work"- Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo

"I Got It Made" - Special Ed
"Top Billin'" - Audio Two

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 22, 2006 09:11 PM

But errrrm I'd have to say Rapper's Delight, Planet Rock, and The Breaks/If I Ruled the World by Kurtis Blow.

Funny that nobody's mentioned the first novelty rap tracks, the ones that got rap played on the 14 year old girl stations and blew open the doors for rap's acceptance by white folks long before Run DMC and Aerosmith collaborated.

I'm talking about the Roxanne Roxanne phase, back in 1984. You had UTFO doing Roxanne Roxanne, then you had some Roxanne Shante or another doing a response rap, and then "The Real Roxanne." All in all there were was over 100 response records, mostly for airplay on local radio stations only. A classmate of mine quit school to become a rapper after such a recording was given airplay on the local "black station"- she went noplace fast after that.

The original was the only one really worth listening to. What was good about it was that you have a rap crew that wasn't all four guys playing the gangsta/thug or playa/pimp role. You had different characters in the group that went after the girl in different ways. I always liked Educated Rapper's bits the best.


But everytime I say this rhyme it makes me kinda weary
It's only customary to give this commentary
Some say it's bad, some say it's legendary
You can search all you want, try your local library
You'll never find a rhyme like this in any dictionary

Anesthesiology, opthamology, internal medicine and plastic surgery!

AkiraLi

AkiraLi

Norristown, PA
March 2003

JUL 22, 2006 09:26 PM

Another honorable mention: "Words From The Genius", "What Are Silly Girls Made Of?" - "The Genius (GZA)

docturnal

docturnal

Raleigh, NC
April 2006

JUL 23, 2006 02:10 AM

i'm embarrassed by most of whats being called old skool in this thread, so i'll help clean it up.

play at your own risk
a-e-o-i-u
new york new york (no, not the dogg pound)
sucka mc's
apache

and then hip hop opens the door for more.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUL 23, 2006 02:42 AM

These have all already been said but I just wanted to add my +1 to:
Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five: The Message
Kurtis Blow: The Breaks
Public Enemy: Bring The Noise & Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos
RUN DMC: It's Tricky & You Be Illin'

I'd also like to add:
RUN DMC: King Of Rock & Beats To The Rhyme
Public Enemy: 911 Is A Joke & Fight The Power

Admitedly, my knowledge of rap is not what I'd like it to be, but the songs listed here have given me a good direction to look in smile

wottan

wottan

Vancouver, BC
July 2004

JUL 23, 2006 01:26 PM

Everlasting Bass - Rodney O and DJ Joe Coolie
RUN DMC - Its Tricky
NWA - Boyz in da Hood
Kane - Mr. Welfare
Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight

This list illustrates how I dont have enough oldschool hip-hop. But that I need more!

noirkiss3

noirkiss3

Minneapolis, MN
April 2006

JUL 23, 2006 02:04 PM

Damn, we gotta get you all some schooling,late 80's -early 90's does not equal old school.
Gil Scott Heron- Whitey On The Moon
Original Concept- Can U Feel It
Afrika Bambaataa- Looking For The Perfect Beat
Schooly D- P.S.K. What Does It Mean

And not reaaly "old school" because it is 1988 but Ultramagnetic MC's "Ease Back"

PS Sorry Akira for the doubles, I get worked up and post before I even get to the second page

pavlovsdog

pavlovsdog

Asheville, NC
May 2004

JUL 23, 2006 02:26 PM

Add:
The Show - Doug E Fresh & The Get Fresh Crew
The Bridge - MC Shan
South Bronx - BDP
Eric B For President - Eric B
Make the Music With Your Mouth Biz - Biz Markie

Cutzlikedrugz

Cutzlikedrugz

Saint Charles, MO
January 2006

JUL 23, 2006 03:20 PM

Digable Planets- black ego
Company Flow- population control
Public Enemy- fight the power
Pharcyde- keeps passin me by
Gravediggaz- diary of a madman

Genjutsushi

Genjutsushi

United Kingdom
October 2004

JUL 23, 2006 03:39 PM

Love it or hate it, House of Pain's Jump Around is a classic...


...or have I just lost what little credibility I had. wink

Joanne

Joanne

Santa Cruz, CA
September 2003

JUL 23, 2006 04:42 PM

sippin on gin n juice

laid back

with my mind on my money and my money on my mind

AkiraLi

AkiraLi

Norristown, PA
March 2003

JUL 23, 2006 07:52 PM

noirkiss3 said:
Damn, we gotta get you all some schooling,late 80's -early 90's does not equal old school.
Gil Scott Heron- Whitey On The Moon
Original Concept- Can U Feel It
Afrika Bambaataa- Looking For The Perfect Beat
Schooly D- P.S.K. What Does It Mean

And not reaaly "old school" because it is 1988 but Ultramagnetic MC's "Ease Back"

PS Sorry Akira for the doubles, I get worked up and post before I even get to the second page


hehe no worries. Just goes to show you have good tastewink

And I can't believe I forgot "Looking For The Perfect Beat"!
blackeyed

_panda_

_panda_

I'm lost
November 2005

JUL 23, 2006 07:54 PM

ASSH0LE said:

I'm talking about the Roxanne Roxanne phase, back in 1984. You had UTFO doing Roxanne Roxanne, then you had some Roxanne Shante or another doing a response rap, and then "The Real Roxanne." All in all there were was over 100 response records, mostly for airplay on local radio stations only. A classmate of mine quit school to become a rapper after such a recording was given airplay on the local "black station"- she went noplace fast after that.

!



I said those twice.

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 23, 2006 08:10 PM

I post to my own detriment. But I like neither rap nor hip-hop. Not that I judge it; I just don't like it. Sorry.

tatertot

tatertot

Fort Erie, ON
February 2006

JUL 23, 2006 08:36 PM

How about a trip to 1989...

1. De La Soul - Say No Go
2. Digital Underground - Humpty Dance
3. Erik B + Rakim - In The Ghetto
4. Stetsasonic - Miami Bass
5. 3rd Bass - The Gas Face

biggrin

Quanta

quanta

I'm lost
June 2006

JUL 25, 2006 03:55 PM

....oh yeah

I used to like these alot too.

Erik B is on the cut-Erik B. & Rakim
So what cha sayin?-EPMD

but i think maybe i'm takin too much liberty with the term "old school"

sorry

dufsmashXIII

dufsmashXIII

Eureka, IL
December 2005

JUL 25, 2006 05:56 PM

anything by NWA or Public Enemy

aliasbard

aliasbard

Roseville, MI
January 2005

JUL 26, 2006 07:21 AM

Paid in Full ~ Eric B & Rakim
Jam on it ~ Newcleus
Cinderfella Dana Dane ~ Dana Dane
The Vapors ~ Biz Markie
Hoe Cakes ~ The Afros

TheAussie2

TheAussie2

Australia
May 2006

JUL 26, 2006 07:38 AM

Special Ed - I'm the Magnificent
Schooly D - Saturday Night
Gang Starr - Just to Get a Rep
Ice-T - 6 In The Mornin
Blade - Mind Of An Ordinary Citizen

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