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Rahodeb

Rahodeb

Los Angeles, CA
March 2006

APR 29, 2006 05:09 PM

So, April is unofficial Goth month. If there's one thing the goths have figured out, it's how to make headlines. Stories this month have featured the gothic propensity toward self-harm, a string of church burnings, and now we can add a serial goth flasher and a triple murder to the list. Where to begin?

Let's start with the triple murder--that way we can end on a lighter note. This one is really gnarly: a 12-year old Canadian and her, ahem, 23-year old "boyfriend" are accused of killing the girl's parents and brother. The memorial service was held today, and the accused murderers made their first court appearance this past Tuesday.

The girl cannot be named under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, but in the small city of 56,000, her identity is no secret.

Some have been shocked by newspaper revelations that she met her co-accused in a goth vampire chat room on the Internet.

In recent weeks, the Grade 7 Roman Catholic schoolgirl had abandoned her clean-cut look for a darker, goth style with heavy eyeliner and makeup.



Um. Okay--what is a 12-year old North American girl doing involved with a 23-year old man? I don't care what subculture you roll with, that's just wrong.

Moving on to less-wrong (it's all relative, remember) stories: a serial goth flasher has been apprehended in Arapahoe County, Colorado. The 21-year old admitted to "exposing himself six times at businesses in Arapahoe County."

David Joseph Jobin was booked into the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office Detentions Facility with a $1,750 bond. He faces six misdemeanor counts of indecent exposure.

The suspected serial flasher's latest incident occurred on April 11. A woman working at a design [sic] on the 6000 block of South Spruce Street, said when she was working in her office when she heard a knock on the front window. She went to the door, opened it and saw a white man standing outside. She asked him if he needed help and he said, "No, I just wanted to show you this."

She told deputies that he was exposing himself and masturbating.



I've never been flashed, and I imagine it must be a pretty violating experience, but that kind of makes me giggle. "No, I just wanted to show you this." So business-like. So matter-of-fact.

Anyhoo, apparently Mr. Jobin is being categorized not just as a flasher but as a "goth flasher" because he's pale and wears black.

The woman described the man as a white, with very pale skin, approximately 5 feet 9 inches to 5 feet 10 inches tall with straight black hair wearing a long-sleeved black shirt and black pants.



Be sure to tune in next week for our special report on Goth Car Thieves, Supermarket Grazers and Bank Robbers.

blackhalo

blackhalo

Edmonton, AB
October 2005

APR 29, 2006 07:25 PM

Oh man... I'm on both sites (Nexopia.com and Vampirefreaks.com), and both are being demonized in media now. It's ridiculous. Especially here in Edmonton, because Nexopia started here, there's always something in the news.

I wish kids just were smarter... and didn't have homocidal tendencies. That would make life a little easier.

[Edited on Apr 29, 2006 8:25PM]

CitizenD

CitizenD

Australia
April 2006

APR 29, 2006 07:43 PM

I love it how as soon as someone gets a press-pass, their common sense evaporates all together. The construction of these stories almost infers that clothing and make-up is almost a causative factor in these types of events. Where will they draw the line?

Reporter: “The gunman was quietly drinking orange juice before he opened fire.”
Holy shit, I drink OJ! And I usually do so quietly. I must be homicidal!

In my humble opinion, I think it was probably the 'being nuttier than squirrel shit' aspect that had the most influence on this one. Just a hunch.

whitepuma

whitepuma

Australia
March 2004

APR 29, 2006 08:07 PM

CitizenD said:
I love it how as soon as someone gets a press-pass, their common sense evaporates all together. The construction of these stories almost infers that clothing and make-up is almost a causative factor in these types of events. Where will they draw the line?

Reporter: “The gunman was quietly drinking orange juice before he opened fire.”
Holy shit, I drink OJ! And I usually do so quietly. I must be homicidal!

In my humble opinion, I think it was probably the 'being nuttier than squirrel shit' aspect that had the most influence on this one. Just a hunch.




I completely aggree so hmm if you a goth then your homicidial and a flasher and no other sub cultures does this at all, no race, religion, color or creed only goths. O come on plz when will they get a fucking clue that some ppl are just unhinged and these unhinged fuckwits come from all walks of life.

If you ask me the worst offenders of fucked up shit are rich spoilt brats since they have money to get out of anything they do and since they dont have to work and shit coz they are rich theyre bored.

branwell

branwell

Australia
April 2006

APR 29, 2006 08:08 PM

For the UK contribution to unoffical goth month we have taken on the theme of "what will happen when you get over it/ grow out of it, assuming that you fight your homocidal and sexual predatory urges for long enough?"

Researchers have told us that goths are more likely to become doctors, lawyers and architects, and are "refined and sensitive".

goth kids are a better class than chav kids

So the next time someone troubles you for being gothy, you can reply "mommy, I'm just aspiring to the British middle classes".

All this from the state owned press, marvellous.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by branwell]

mrsjack

mrsjack

I'm lost
November 2005

APR 29, 2006 09:20 PM

agreed on every count people, and
what do you know? I live in the aformentioned city
of 56,000 and have been dealing with our local media freaking out as soon as the word goth was mentioned. They are psychotic individuals who dealt with a very deserved grounding by commiting murder. period. Though I wish they were like hard core kelly clarkson shrine making fanatics or something. that would have made the last weeks worth of motive hunting alot more interesting....... biggrin

Pwndcake

Pwndcake

Portland, OR
October 2004

APR 29, 2006 11:10 PM

April was a month to remember. Not fondly mind you, but a month to remember.

Brixton

Brixton

SUICIDEGIRL

Connecticut, USA

APR 29, 2006 11:30 PM

dude, this month has SUCKED. A LOT.

i blame goths.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by Brixton]

Pwndcake

Pwndcake

Portland, OR
October 2004

APR 30, 2006 01:40 AM

Brixton said:
dude, this month has SUCKED. A LOT.

i blame goths.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by Brixton]


Hey now, I was dead at the time (almost).

mat8drb

mat8drb

United Kingdom
October 2004

APR 30, 2006 01:47 AM

branwell said:
All this from the state owned press, marvellous.


Er, what? It was a piece of reseaerch by the University of Surrey that The Guardian published first, then the BBC ran it as a magazine piece.

branwell

branwell

Australia
April 2006

APR 30, 2006 02:30 AM

mat8drb said:

branwell said:
All this from the state owned press, marvellous.


Er, what? It was a piece of reseaerch by the University of Surrey that The Guardian published first, then the BBC ran it as a magazine piece.



Was simply remarking on the fact that the beeb ran with it, all the way to camden, to run a feature on it, which is why I posted a link to that story rather than Sussex uni.

Apologies to all if I misled you into thinking the BBC had actually conducted the research. confused blush

Nokturn

Nokturn

United Kingdom
April 2006

APR 30, 2006 07:51 AM

Once Blaush have dealt with those terrorists, we know who they're after skull

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

APR 30, 2006 08:18 AM

Goth isn't the cause of mental dysfunction, it's a symptom.










biggrin

chilung

chilung

Australia
April 2005

APR 30, 2006 08:58 AM

Goth said:

Brixton said:
dude, this month has SUCKED. A LOT.

i blame goths.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by Brixton]


Hey now, I was dead at the time (almost).



No, Bela Legousi's dead.


Nokturn said:
Once Blaush have dealt with those terrorists, we know who they're after skull



I can just see the secret service chasing after goths with stakes and holy water, and staking the emo kid who sitting there with a bong by mistake.
must run, damn platforms and corset

Oh the angst. HSF.
ARRR!!!


[Edited on May 01, 2006 2:02AM]

Wren

Wren

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

APR 30, 2006 09:15 AM

Helen_Jupiter said:
Um. Okay--what is a 12-year old North American girl doing involved with a 23-year old man? I don't care what subculture you roll with, that's just wrong.



It happens more often than you think.
puke

seanvegas

seanvegas

Lincoln, NE
December 2004

APR 30, 2006 09:17 AM

I'd LOVE it if a Goth girl flashed me her tight little body!

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

APR 30, 2006 12:52 PM

branwell said:
For the UK contribution to unoffical goth month we have taken on the theme of "what will happen when you get over it/ grow out of it, assuming that you fight your homocidal and sexual predatory urges for long enough?"

Researchers have told us that goths are more likely to become doctors, lawyers and architects, and are "refined and sensitive".

goth kids are a better class than chav kids

So the next time someone troubles you for being gothy, you can reply "mommy, I'm just aspiring to the British middle classes".

All this from the state owned press, marvellous.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by branwell]



What are "chavs"? I'm curious.

mat8drb

mat8drb

United Kingdom
October 2004

APR 30, 2006 12:56 PM

Necia said:
What are "chavs"? I'm curious.


Wikipedia entry on Chavs: it is anything from someone who likes to wear flash cheap jewellery, to someone who is uneducated and proud of the fact. It has many slang definitions.

Also see [http://www.chavscum.co.uk]Chavscum for a, er, biased view of it all.

gothi

gothi

United Kingdom
December 2004

APR 30, 2006 12:58 PM

Necia said:

What are "chavs"? I'm curious.



Wiki entry on Chav's and one of the most high profile chav sites (warning, it portrays chav's in a bad light ie as people who commit various crimes and are a burden on society. Sadly in a lot of cases this can be said to be true)

gothi

gothi

United Kingdom
December 2004

APR 30, 2006 12:59 PM

How ironic that mat and me both chose the same two sites/articles to describe chavs biggrin

Clearly it's the goth's fault wink

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

APR 30, 2006 01:41 PM

Goth said:

Brixton said:
dude, this month has SUCKED. A LOT.

i blame goths.

[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by Brixton]


Hey now, I was dead at the time (almost).


He was on the moon.

With Steve.



I'm having trouble moving past the goth boy exposing himself at "Darque Tan".

LinkIsMyHero

LinkIsMyHero

USA
February 2005

APR 30, 2006 01:47 PM

Flashers can eat shit.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

APR 30, 2006 01:52 PM

You mean to sunlight?


[Edited on Apr 30, 2006 by PartyAllTheTime]

Aya

Aya

SUICIDEGIRL

Alberta, Canada

APR 30, 2006 02:06 PM

It's really odd.

First Goths are self-harmers, then they're murderers?

Leave it to the media to get this stuff mixed up.

shaneapex

shaneapex

Medicine Hat, AB
March 2006

APR 30, 2006 02:06 PM

This is my home town where the family was killed. It has been admitted that it was premeditated by the daughter/sister and the male in question. The fact that he was off his rocker is what is really going on, i know people who knew him in high school, and he latched onto any kind of subculture weekly to try to fit it, be it preppy, jock, or goth. His family is also fucked, his mother had no problem with him banging 12 year olds...yes more than one. Vampirism is just the latest in his attempts to fit in. Remember, it's not what you wear, its whats inside that counts, corny, but relevant. This guy would have been doing 12 year olds no matter what.

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