So here is the reason I like this ink. I am Jewish, I am just about to get my first tattoo. Jewish law however forbids tattoos because they are "permanent". However it is okay to say write on your skin or get a temporary tattoo because it isn't. The main grip seems to be permanents. I am guessing an ink that would be easy to remove would fall into this other category. I know it sounds somewhat crazy and I don't plan on getting my tattoo removed but something like this could satisfy my want of a tattoo and Jewish law.

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH

November 2004

APR 27, 2006 05:29 PM

hadees said:
So here is the reason I like this ink. I am Jewish, I am just about to get my first tattoo. Jewish law however forbids tattoos because they are "permanent". However it is okay to say write on your skin or get a temporary tattoo because it isn't. The main grip seems to be permanents. I am guessing an ink that would be easy to remove would fall into this other category. I know it sounds somewhat crazy and I don't plan on getting my tattoo removed but something like this could satisfy my want of a tattoo and Jewish law.

whatever, POSER!

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH

November 2004

APR 27, 2006 05:30 PM

MrStitches said:

hadees said:
I mean if you were this guy wouldn't you want the option open?

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

I don't think anyone could manage to get a tattoo like that without REALLY wanting it. He probably loves the damned thing.

along with everyone that worked on, was present during the creation of, or has ever even seen it.

hadees

Austin, TX

December 2003

APR 27, 2006 05:33 PM

Dove said:

whatever, POSER!

Benhamin

Grayslake, IL

December 2005

APR 28, 2006 03:07 AM

This ink sounds like it might be more expensive than the regular type. I'm not in the business, so I can't say for sure, but if getting "safety ink" makes some trick with a tramp stamp pay extra, that's fine with me.
I'll stick with the regular ink, personally.

btw, if I'm reading this correctly, apparently this dye can also be used in food. Weird.

HAL9000

Milwaukee, WI

November 2003

APR 28, 2006 05:24 AM

There seems to be a lot of consumer interest information missing from this article such as:

1. Will these inks be as vivid as the inks that are currently used. Which may be possible, but I doubt it unless I can actually see the difference.

2. Are these inks more fugative, meaning will the collors change more over time. I'm guessing that these inks will probably be made out of highly conjugated organic compounds instead of metal oxides which would be more likely to breakdown, change, or lose color. On the other hand if they are using conjugated organic compounds then there are options for having tatoos that are flourescent or only become visible under UV light which could be cool.

3. Will the polymer that encapsulates the pigments breakdown on its own over time once its in the body. I doubt if there is any data on the permanance of the capsul yet, but it would be important to know before investing in a tatoo.

4. A cost comparison. I bet these inks are much more expensive.

StarDiva

USA

February 2004

APR 28, 2006 05:30 AM

Those are some of the points I brought up in the post on the Tattoo Group as well.

PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

APR 28, 2006 06:20 AM

Jordan said:
this type of thing is for pussies, not punks, if you really want something, you want the pain and the permanent stain. i fuckin didn't mean for that to rhyme but oh well.

Oh, please...tattoos haven't been "punk" for the last 10 years, at least. Every other 17 year old has one. There's nothing rebellious about them any more, at all. $300 and a trip to "Needlez and Sinz" at the Oshwego strip mall doesn't buy you any sort of cred in my book.

[Edited on Apr 28, 2006 by PointBlank]

Techne

Cambridge, MA

August 2005

APR 28, 2006 06:31 AM

I want to know if there is less chance of an allergic reaction. I don't know if any one else looks that stuff up before they get a tattoo, but I don't want to have an inflamed, itchy tattoo burning a hole through me because I'm allergic to it. With the polymer around it, hopefully that will eliminate the issue.

Techne

Cambridge, MA

August 2005

APR 28, 2006 06:35 AM

But OMGZ I'm so xpunkxcorex I'm getting the regular inkz! Screw tha pozers!

It sounds like it doesn't make a difference unless you get it removed and if you ever have to for any reason, you'll be glad you used this new ink. Tattoos aren't all that permanent now anyway since there are already laser removal and cover-ups as options.

[Edited on Apr 28, 2006 by Odyne]

Wren

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

APR 28, 2006 07:03 AM

The point is that it STILL TAKES LASER REMOVAL TO GET RID OF THE TATTOO. It's not as if you can wash it off with soap. Take a chill pill, people.

This could be the next step toward chemists developing safer, more vibrant, long lasting inks for those of us who DON'T want the easily removable option. It could be very, very benefical to the tattoo community to have medically and scientifically trained folks involved in the creation of the art that we wear.

I can see concern that it's going to increase the "Well, I can just get it lasered off later!" attitude. But aside from that, it's pretty cool. How about we stop assuming the ink is going to suck until we see a tattoo done with it?

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH

April 2004

APR 28, 2006 07:12 AM

MrStitches said:
And I imagine all of you people bitching had whatever tattoos you have done with needle on a stick and natural dyes or something. Only poser pussies playing at being a maori, or polynesian get their tattoos from tattoo guns. But then those aboriginals were really just posing as cavemen right?

[Edited on Apr 27, 2006 by MrStitches]

Muah!

Wolfmaen

Roswell, GA

May 2004

APR 28, 2006 12:03 PM

Wren said:
The point is that it STILL TAKES LASER REMOVAL TO GET RID OF THE TATTOO. It's not as if you can wash it off with soap. Take a chill pill, people.

This could be the next step toward chemists developing safer, more vibrant, long lasting inks for those of us who DON'T want the easily removable option. It could be very, very benefical to the tattoo community to have medically and scientifically trained folks involved in the creation of the art that we wear.

I can see concern that it's going to increase the "Well, I can just get it lasered off later!" attitude. But aside from that, it's pretty cool. How about we stop assuming the ink is going to suck until we see a tattoo done with it?

Well said. Hear, hear.

Ghost_dance

Cincinnati, OH

March 2004

APR 28, 2006 12:13 PM

there is no real consequence for it though, so you shouldn't worry.

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH

November 2004

APR 28, 2006 12:17 PM

Ghost_dance said:

there is no real consequence for it though, so you shouldn't worry.

there is no real consequence for what?

MStar33

Evans, CO

January 2005

APR 28, 2006 12:46 PM

I'm up for any steps forward in inks and as long as they are vibrant and don't fade I'm all for it

hadees

Austin, TX

December 2003

APR 28, 2006 01:44 PM

Ghost_dance said:

there is no real consequence for it though, so you shouldn't worry.

Yeah, i think i explained it better in my post in the tattoo group. I break the Shabbat every week and I eat milk and meat together. So it isn't exactly that I am worried about breaking religous law but given two inks that look just as good why not get it.

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC

January 2006

APR 28, 2006 06:41 PM

MrStitches said:

SonOfAPunk said:

MrStitches said:

SonOfAPunk said:
I think you guys are all forgetting to mention that this type of "pseudo-temporary-ink" is probably way shittier looking/lasting than the "real ink".

What makes you say that?

Well... Think about it... Unless it's got some spectacular science behind it, UV rays from the sun, moisturizers, you name it, it's got to affect this type of ink way more fiercely than regular ink, because after all it IS weaker, right?

Like, I could very well be wrong... But if it's easier to remove, it's gotta be weaker in more than one (being laser-removal) aspect...

So basically you have no idea, but you're saying that because you don't like it.

No, not at all. It's just like common sense with chemicals... If it's weaker in any way shape or form, it does it's job shittier. That's all. Just trying to generalize.

(Like, think about cleaning products and sterilizers... The weaker ones rinse away easier and don't do too good a job of cleaning up or disinfecting... And so-on and so-forth...)

Brixton

SUICIDEGIRL

Connecticut, USA

APR 28, 2006 06:59 PM

bcguitar33 said:

Jordan said:
this type of thing is for pussies, not punks, if you really want something, you want the pain and the permanent stain. i fuckin didn't mean for that to rhyme but oh well.

Really? You've never wanted anything for just a while before?

not a tattoo. when i get my tattoos, i want them forever.

Margot_Dent

Los Angeles, CA

February 2004

APR 28, 2006 07:16 PM

hadees said:

Ghost_dance said:

there is no real consequence for it though, so you shouldn't worry.

i'm the same as you. i rationalized getting mine because they take 'em off you after you die. yep.

Techne

Cambridge, MA

August 2005

APR 28, 2006 10:14 PM

Another article which has more information on the medical implications and process.

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