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Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

APR 07, 2006 12:52 PM

brhood said:
If you asked a newbie these days to cut a mask or go shoot a bromide on the camera they would look at you like you were freebasing clearasil....



Hahahaha!

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

APR 07, 2006 12:55 PM

I'm sure it's true. I personally hate drawing, because I suck at it, and now that I'm taking an intro printmaking class that incorporates drawing, I kind of wish I hadn't taken a digital art course first, because I hate drawing even more now. (It's worth noting that I'm not an art major by a long shot, but still.)

Or maybe I just like the camera better than anything else, and Photoshop works well with that. Either way, though, I could see how this makes sense.

mat8drb

mat8drb

United Kingdom
October 2004

APR 08, 2006 05:18 AM

Isn't it just a new medium, a new method of doing things? Good quality coloured pencils haven't been around for that long when you compare them with cave drawings. Surely this is just another way of expressing your artistic talent: there will always be others who take different routes.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

APR 08, 2006 05:48 AM

mat8drb said:
Isn't it just a new medium, a new method of doing things? Good quality coloured pencils haven't been around for that long when you compare them with cave drawings. Surely this is just another way of expressing your artistic talent: there will always be others who take different routes.


nahh, not really. the real issue here is not Use a computer/Do not use a computer, but that kids using a computer early on and getting a glossy surface havent learned as much about how to make the image. the emphasis on drawing is pretty important for all artists (even photographers); its should be called how to see (and then translate that to whatever medium youre using)

i think you could look it up? almost every art school has a 'foundation year' with basic courses to get all students up to speed in basic areas, based on the salon theory i think its called?

i mean, you Dont need to draw to make a photoshop image for your band's albumn or your internet humor, but thats a very limited skill, and most art jobs call for a fairly diverse knowledge, just so the client has all the bases covered.

mat8drb

mat8drb

United Kingdom
October 2004

APR 08, 2006 06:13 AM

attn_ho said:
Dont need to draw to make a photoshop image for your band's albumn or your internet humor, but thats a very limited skill, and most art jobs call for a fairly diverse knowledge, just so the client has all the bases covered.


Oh, certainly. I was just referring to art for art's sake.

Surely the people doing the hiring are responsible for checking the interviewee can do the job.

bairdduvessa

bairdduvessa

Centerville, MA
April 2005

APR 08, 2006 07:49 AM

guess its a good thing i never learned how to use computer art programs...

Meridon

Meridon

I'm lost
September 2005

APR 08, 2006 09:06 AM

apesamongus said:

bean said:
Frankly, I can't imagine developing skills any other way, and I can't understand anyone who thinks they can shortcut their way to being good at what they do.


Well, if what you want to be good at is drawing by hand, then you have a point. But some people want to be good at creating art (or commerse), and there are many different ways to go about that. You don't need to learn to sing to be able to dance well.



However, in order to be a good dancer, you should also take acting classes. They are complimentary art forms.

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

APR 08, 2006 11:19 AM

apesamongus said:

Elichrusos said:
This nonsense about teachers not being entitled to tell their students how to learn is preposterous,


And the implication that people who learn to do art with a different set of skills are somehow not as creative is pretentious.


I never said that, and neither did the article.

In my experience, a graphical artist with skills in one medium is immensely limited. Learing how to use both the perfect shapes of the comupter and the natural shapes of the eye teaches you more.

mudpub

mudpub

Toronto, ON
September 2002

APR 08, 2006 11:54 AM

this articles doesn't really make much sense to me. the author is trying to make the point about how "US art students" are losing drawing skills because they are using computers.

it's pretty obvious this guy doesn't know anything about art. he interviews two architecture professors, a director at a school of illustration and some new media guy. doesn't actually interview any fine art professors. basically he lumps together anything creative, whether it's art, design, architecture, interactive, etc into: art, and talks about drawing as a necessary skill for commercial work, but not for art making.

in the second page, he completely switches gears and talks about drawing, as in fine art. how drawings are in high demand for (art) collectors. and drawings are also economical for artists.

it's a poorly written article.

norritt

norritt

Mesa, AZ
December 2002

APR 09, 2006 09:00 PM

drawings tuff alot of these illustrator tracers would be lost with out there fancy shmancy comp. skull

xpressiveink

xpressiveink

Frisco, TX
May 2010

JUN 21, 2010 07:55 AM

I have to agree with the article. I make $$ through art. I've always used pencil and paper, paints, airbrushes - traditional stuff - and I always will. Heck I even have a pad and pencil in my pocket when I go out just in case I want to draw something I see or something that pops in my minds.

What I see in a lot of computer artists is that they are impotent without a little box. And a lot if their work all looks the same from one person to the next. Give them pencil and paper and they can't cut it. Most couldn't walk up to a wall with a stick of charcoal or brush and design a mural out of their head or even draw something they see in a reference pic. Canvas stumps them, paper is their enemy and in the end their inability to use these mediums puts into question their status as an artist, in my humble opinion.

Yeah, I could sit on the computer and do art, but the truth is that just sitting outside with a pencil and paper is much more fulfilling and if I lose power for the day, I will still be working while the computer artists are sitting there banging their heads on a dead screen.


xpressiveink

xpressiveink

Frisco, TX
May 2010

JUN 21, 2010 08:03 AM

Ooops. didn't look at the date and realize I was reanimating an old thread.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

JUN 21, 2010 02:07 PM

If the art is good, I don´t care how they made it.

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